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CardJoe · 7th Apr 2008, 09:49

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2008/04...ws_exclusive/1

Adobe has announced that the next version of Creative Suite applications will have 64-bit support - but only on Windows.

Buzzons · 7th Apr 2008, 10:17

ahhh poor mac fanyboys/girls. Why did Apple shoot themselves in the foot like this though?

Woodstock · 7th Apr 2008, 10:22

until theres (decent) nix support for any adobe products, i really dont care what they do

[USRF]Obiwan · 7th Apr 2008, 12:29

Its not apple's fault. It is Adobe' fault. Because the Carbon API was intended as a "in between" step for Cocoa. And no, i am not a apple fanboy. But i did read a whole bit about this a few days ago on a photoshop forum.

wharrad · 7th Apr 2008, 12:56

Woooo for Bootcamp....

But sadly, only business users can actually afford to buy a Mac copy and a Windows copy. Seem to remember lots of bit-tech employees going the way of the fruit, I wonder if this will switch them back for normal office based productivity.

koola · 7th Apr 2008, 14:22

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Originally Posted by Buzzons

ahhh poor mac fanyboys/girls. Why did Apple shoot themselves in the foot like this though?

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Any applications based on Carbon that would like to enter the 21st century with 64-bit support will need to be re-written for Cocoa.

Nuff said. Apple gave plenty of notice.. lazy Adobe cheesecake.

Glider · 7th Apr 2008, 15:01

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Originally Posted by Woodstock

until theres (decent) nix support for any adobe products, i really dont care what they do

QFT

rDr4g0n · 7th Apr 2008, 15:09

"The 64 bit support enables users to work on massive images easily, with the biggest speed gain seen on Windows systems running 32GB or more of RAM."

lotta users with 32gigs of ram?

also, is this Vista only or will it work with 64bit XP? I may be willing to try and wrangle 64bit XP into submission for this...

completemadness · 7th Apr 2008, 16:03

i dont see why it wouldnt be XPx64 ....

Still, +1 for the Linux suggestion, although, i believe you can get photoshop to work in wine

wuyanxu · 7th Apr 2008, 16:20

if this makes all the anti-Mac-fanboys happy.

im sure all the Mac-fanboys will be super happy this this news:

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Originally Posted by source

Windows 7 takes a different approach to the componentization and backwards compatibility issues; in short, it doesn't think about them at all. Windows 7 will be a from-the-ground-up packaging of the Windows codebase; partially source, but not binary compatible with previous versions of Windows. Making the break from backwards compatibility is a dangerous proposal but a dream for software developers. Performance of native applications can be increased, distribution sizes can be cut down, functionality can be added without the worry of breaking old applications, and the overall end-user experience can be significantly improved.

Hezza · 7th Apr 2008, 17:13

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Originally Posted by rDr4g0n

lotta users with 32gigs of ram?

Theres not too many machines with 32 gig but plenty with 12 or 8 gig of ram.

For high end 3d stuff i'm often working with 8k 32bit images that weigh in at 768mb for a single layer, as soon as you start doing anything to them Photoshop hits the 4 gig limit. Being able to address more memory will be lovely

Still i'd rather they released a linux version and then I could abandon windows completely

E.E.L. Ambiense · 7th Apr 2008, 17:15

I just read somewhere on friday that Mac support is coming after the Windows release, unless I'm mistaken.

Hm.

koola · 7th Apr 2008, 18:57

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Originally Posted by E.E.L. Ambiense

I just read somewhere on friday that Mac support is coming after the Windows release, unless I'm mistaken.

Hm.

Adobe are supposedly re-writing the code-base right now for cocoa. Will be a while though; over 1 million lines of code need to be changed lol.

zoom314 · 7th Apr 2008, 19:04

Where's the Flash plugin for the 64 bit firefox browser that runs in Windows XP x64 or Vista x64?

E.E.L. Ambiense · 7th Apr 2008, 19:12

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Originally Posted by koola

Adobe are supposedly re-writing the code-base right now for cocoa. Will be a while though; over 1 million lines of code need to be changed lol.

It would be smart, since you can't beat a Mac for design work. Period. Hell, I started graphic design work on a friggin' Mac, way back in the late 80's!

chrisuk · 7th Apr 2008, 19:36

Adobe's fault - apple has given plenty of warning carbon was going the way of the dodo, but, in another "customer endearing" move (see adobe global price differences as well) they decided not to spend the money getting it done.

Tut tut adobe, well done apple for sticking to your guns

seanap · 7th Apr 2008, 23:03

Interesting to see that they stuck with Carbon rather than working on the Cocoa port right away. You'd think a company with that much 'interest' in Apple would be able to overcome something like that..

Edit: anyone else notice the unclosed <b> tag from wuyanxu's post? Wonder if doing a blank quote with </b> will fix it
Edit 2: Hmm.. can't seem to fix it. *pokes teh adminzxor*

B3CK · 8th Apr 2008, 00:21

I'm just glad to see more of the big companies releasing productivity apps on 64 bit. The more we get, the more refining the hardware Mfgr's are going to do to increase performance and efficiency. It is time to start moving away from 32bit systems. I for one would like to start seeing more of a push to finish 64 bit and go on ahead for the 128bit hardware/OS. With more and more development of multi core processors, and ram prices dropping; (not forgetting the flash memory dropping as well.), The era of Tera-everything is not too far off.

[USRF]Obiwan · 8th Apr 2008, 09:09

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Originally Posted by B3CK

and ram prices dropping; (not forgetting the flash memory dropping as well.), The era of Tera-everything is not too far off.

Ram prices dropping? Looks like all company's new motherboards have worked out a "deal" with ram makers to only release DDR3 boards. Its 4 times expensive then DDR2 and does nothing in performance. So basicly its a big scam to force us to buy very expensive useless DDR3 ram. And do not tell me it is not true because you can smell this scam from 5 miles away.

pendragon · 8th Apr 2008, 18:25

DDR2 ram has indeed been dropping in price.. 2gigs for under $30: unheard of a year or two ago!

re: article.. i dislike Apple as a company, so this makes me smile.

...even if it is just a temporary hiccup

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Buzzons Mod Master Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 2,085	ahhh poor mac fanyboys/girls. Why did Apple shoot themselves in the foot like this though?

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rDr4g0n What's a Dremel? Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: brownsville texas Posts: 6	"The 64 bit support enables users to work on massive images easily, with the biggest speed gain seen on Windows systems running 32GB or more of RAM." lotta users with 32gigs of ram? also, is this Vista only or will it work with 64bit XP? I may be willing to try and wrangle 64bit XP into submission for this...

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completemadness Hypermodder Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 887	i dont see why it wouldnt be XPx64 .... Still, +1 for the Linux suggestion, although, i believe you can get photoshop to work in wine

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zoom314 Multimodder Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Yermo, CA, USA Posts: 174	Where's the Flash plugin for the 64 bit firefox browser that runs in Windows XP x64 or Vista x64?

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chrisuk Modder Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Maidstone, Kent, UK Posts: 57	Adobe's fault - apple has given plenty of warning carbon was going the way of the dodo, but, in another "customer endearing" move (see adobe global price differences as well) they decided not to spend the money getting it done. Tut tut adobe, well done apple for sticking to your guns

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seanap Modder Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 59	Interesting to see that they stuck with Carbon rather than working on the Cocoa port right away. You'd think a company with that much 'interest' in Apple would be able to overcome something like that.. Edit: anyone else notice the unclosed <b> tag from wuyanxu's post? Wonder if doing a blank quote with </b> will fix it Edit 2: Hmm.. can't seem to fix it. pokes teh adminzxor Last edited by seanap; 7th Apr 2008 at 23:08. Reason: Article page bolding

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B3CK Supermodder Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Dallas, Texas Posts: 349	I'm just glad to see more of the big companies releasing productivity apps on 64 bit. The more we get, the more refining the hardware Mfgr's are going to do to increase performance and efficiency. It is time to start moving away from 32bit systems. I for one would like to start seeing more of a push to finish 64 bit and go on ahead for the 128bit hardware/OS. With more and more development of multi core processors, and ram prices dropping; (not forgetting the flash memory dropping as well.), The era of Tera-everything is not too far off. __________________ "God loves stupid people, that is why he made so many of them." My best friend at M$ Tech support.

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pendragon I pickle they Join Date: May 2004 Location: Massachusetts,usa Posts: 629	DDR2 ram has indeed been dropping in price.. 2gigs for under $30: unheard of a year or two ago! re: article.. i dislike Apple as a company, so this makes me smile. ...even if it is just a temporary hiccup __________________ -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- GCS d-@ s-:>: a- C++$ UL---@ P++>+++++$ L+ E----@ W+++ N o? K? w++>+++++ O---@ M-- V? PS--() PE+@ Y? PGP-@ t+(+++) 5(+)@ X@ R+(++) tv@ b++ DI@ D++ G e++>+++++ h! r(%) y? ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------