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Old 11th Apr 2008, 07:05   #1
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AMD Phenom X4 9850, 9750 and 9550

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/200...9550_b3_cpus/1

The highly anticipated Phenom B3 stepping processors are here with slightly faster clocks and no TLB erratum. How does the new stepping overclock? How does it compare to other CPUs around the same price? We dive in to find out.

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Old 11th Apr 2008, 07:37   #2
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Quality review as expected of bit-tech. I like how you coloured the bar graphs. Much easier to follow, I find. Having said that, it would be nice if you guys inserted the truncated processor titles inside the bars on page 9's "composite scores"; there's sufficient space for that. And the colour key seems to be off for that chart as well
Anyway, I've been anticipating the arrival of these chips for a little while, as a try-and-see alternative to the Q6600.

and.... it's got a turbo! FFFFFRRRRRrrrooooo... PSSHHHHHTCH~!!

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Where are the Nvidia chipset with SLI support, i've been waiting bloody ages.
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I have just made the move from AMD to Intel for the first time in my life, as AMD have had alot of bad press these days and there chips dont seem to be able to match any core 2 in the same price bracket.
I purchused a Q9450 and boy its fast and overclocking it is a dream, I just hope AMDs next gen processors will change offer a bit more, as the Core 2 is so good atm and untill AMD go back to the drawing board, they wont have anything that can touch Intel
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Great Article Bindi.
One thing - Last page, 2nd Paragraph. Shouldn't that be "Unobtainable"?

Looks like AMD are slowly coming back to the market. Sure, they were never really out of it, what with the K8's being such good value for money, but now they're a real viable alternative to intel instead of being the budget boys.
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hope you have an overclocking article up soon, half tempted to get one, might have to start looking at am2+ motherboards
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I can't see myself doing an overclocking article soon sorry.
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All the "black beauty" worshipping aside, the E8500 is still the best bang for the bucks. It is such a bang that they are out of stock everywhere. All those Phenoms taking dust at the shopshelfs and then saying they are "more available then Intel procs" is a joke. IT only proves that they are not wanted. I say let them have a 25% lower pricetag and maybe then we see some less dusty phenom boxes on the shopshelfs.

And no, I am not a Intel fanboy, all 939 AMD x2's in my house.
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Great article! Have you tried using the 1002 BIOS for the ASUS M3A32-MVP? It is supposed to add greater support for the B3's.... how it does that I don't know, just going by what ASUS described.
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I'll re-read this review as a get home later today, but it seems an excellent read and I've just skimmed it quickly.

I got my own Phenom 9850 the other day - it lived for 12 hours and I have no idea what killed it.
But I'm starting to suspect that my DFI NF590-SLI is the perpetrator, even though DFI's website states that with the latest bios Phenoms are fully supported on this board. Strange.

My dead Phenom is now on its way to be replaced. Hopefully the new one will live and let me play with it a lot. Cooling, at least, is not something I'm worried about.
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not even a set of results? (what i ment but i wasnt vey clear)
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So the Phenoms are KINDA viable choice for people looking for a quad. And after all they seem to shine on synthetical benchmarks If only they were atleast on par in power consumption and wouldn't suck so tremendously on the overclocking side of things...
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I can't see myself doing an overclocking article soon sorry.
not even a set of results? (what i ment but i wasnt vey clear)
I might do and I'd love to (I see the value in one), but I've just got soooo much work on at the moment I'm working to catch up. We'd rather spend time getting whole articles better, than many half assed.

If I was going to do one I'd do a 9850E, Q6600 G0 and E8400 overclocking together.

We appreciate the kind comments from you all too! It's making a happier what was otherwise crap and frustrating Friday (Yay for Nvidia 790i Ultra SLI)
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My 9500 sucked massively so I'm going to look into a 9850 BE.
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as every person on earth will want to run the intel q6600 on 333x9 speeds i think it would be interesting to see how it compares with the rest. you allways say it's the clocks that matter, and i really think the q6600 would outperform the lot if it's true potential is used.
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Thank god I went for the e8200 and clocked it to 3.4ghz instead of going for a phenom based system. I only use my PC for work, games and some coding, so I think I would be in tears right now if I had bought the phenom over my wolfdale.

Its pretty disapointing that AMD dont seem to be competing, although intel seem to still be pushing forward and they arent charging stupid amounts, so maybe they dont need any real competition to just plod along nicely.
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Well that's a phenomenal OC for a Phenom. If only they usually did that. Or even 3 GHz for that matter.
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I think the problem for AMD right not is that their 65nm process simply isn't that good. It's certainly nowhere near as bad as Intel's was during the Preshott era, but it still leaks too much current and it simply doesn't provide for the high clockspeeds that AMD needs with the K10 architecture.
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