Miyamoto: "Wii Fit is a video game" - bit-tech.net Forums

Bindibadgi · 18th Apr 2008, 14:01

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2008/04..._video_game_/1

Nintendo boss Shigeru Miyamoto may think that Wii Fit is a video game, but having tried it we have other ideas...

kenco_uk · 18th Apr 2008, 14:06

Needs moar lol.

lewchenko · 18th Apr 2008, 14:20

Its not a game. Anyone who claims otherwise is delusional !

However... it will keep my wife occupied for many hours, and thus provide me with extra proper gaming time that I can put to good effect on my GAMING PC or PS3 !

Im sure it will sell millions, and the vast majority of the sales will be to women. Wii = The Official Womans Console.

Baz · 18th Apr 2008, 14:28

Does this mean pics of Joe in his PE kit are inbound?

kenco_uk · 18th Apr 2008, 14:29

Well, what's the alternative?

cjoyce1980 · 18th Apr 2008, 14:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewchenko

Its not a game. Anyone who claims otherwise is delusional !

However... it will keep my wife occupied for many hours, and thus provide me with extra proper gaming time that I can put to good effect on my GAMING PC or PS3 !

Im sure it will sell millions, and the vast majority of the sales will be to women. Wii = The Official Womans Console.

try playing mario kart wii, i bet after 5 minutes you will be hooked and you'll be a girl too!!

Silver51 · 18th Apr 2008, 14:39

I don't get the news segment, I think the clue is in Wii Fit's name. Rather than promoting a device, like the PS3 for portly fellows to sit motionless in front of, Nintendo is selling a peripheral to get people moving in their living rooms.

Jonagon · 18th Apr 2008, 14:49

"Us though? We think it's definitely more of a simulation than a game"

Would you not call simulations like flight sim and Driving simulators games then?

You could put forward a good argument that strategy games are "war simulators" rather than games..

liratheal · 18th Apr 2008, 15:00

I always wondered about this WiiFit thing.

Why not just go for a run or to a gym if you want to get in shape? If you can find time to balance and do weird things on (And possibly with) a board and a Wii, then surely you could find time to do something else that probably doesn't include eye-strain..

But that's the cynic in me.

Thacrudd · 18th Apr 2008, 15:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewchenko

Wii = The Official Womans Console.

Wii = The Official ANYONES Console. Do you have a problem with women and children enjoying the same sonsole/games as men?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonagon

"Us though? We think it's definitely more of a simulation than a game"

Would you not call simulations like flight sim and Driving simulators games then?

You could put forward a good argument that strategy games are "war simulators" rather than games..

Exactly. It is a game.
on a console - check
has objectives (to get fit) - check
do it for entertainment/fun - check

what part of it is not a game?

You can call me a fanboy, that's alright.

themax · 18th Apr 2008, 15:06

I just don't understand the whole concept. Who wants to simulate being fit? Why not do the real thing; which is also possible from the comforts of your own home (The same cost of the Wii Fit is slightly more than what I spent on at-home equipment to do light workouts with). I don't know what it is, but to me there is definately a difference in simulating fitness (we're pretending to be doing Yoga now?) than simulating A barrell roll in a Boeing 747, or drifting in a driving sim, and flanking in a war/strategy sim.

Juppun · 18th Apr 2008, 15:12

I think the use of the word "Fit" is quite deceiving here. I can see this selling out everywhere because people think you can lose weight and "get fit" and have fun because it's on the Wii. To me this is simply a novelty item and cannot replace a good workout. Not by a long shot. It is however perhaps a good introduction to exercise - which is promising if more people get out there and do some as a result of Wii Fit.

I hope that people buy this because it's a fun and good way to get off the couch, but not be fooled into thinking it's an alternative to real exercise.

Mister_Tad · 18th Apr 2008, 15:17

Wii is of course a woman's console. Games for guys don't necessarily have to be fun, but they do have to be violent. /sarc

The beauty of the Wii is that just about anyone, male or female, old or young, technically inclined or not, can find something for them on it. (I sound like ninty marketing here, but its true)
Anyone seemingly except for the FPS junkies that think that a game without killing isn't a game at all

(Don't get me wrong, I love a good shooter, but I dare anyone to try to play monkey ball without having fun)

is DDR a game? singstar? etc

themax · 18th Apr 2008, 15:25

Arguably,exercise is fun yes. But is it as fun as the dancing in DDR? Is it as fun as Kaereoke? That is what it seems to confuse me. I love working out, but working out doesn't stimulate me the way a good time at Kaereoke does or dancing. I've played DDR and watch people play it. There just seems to more of a "fun" factor when it comes to a game that emulates those kinds extra activities when compared to doing a Push Up on the Board for Wii Fit. I don't see me and my friends having a blast doing Yoga multiplayer, or finding out our BMI. I will admit, the soccer mini-games looks definately fun, but the rest of Wii Fit really doesn't.

chiper136 · 18th Apr 2008, 17:11

I would argue that games take a person out of reality and allow them to perform a role that would not normally be reasonably avaliable or possible at all.

To give an example, playing WoW allows a group of people to step out of their lives and become fantasy characters which can wield swords and magic. It give you something reality lacks.
A driving or flight simulator is identical. For a start the age restriction on piloting aircraft and driving cars, also the issue of the time/money it takes to learn/own a plane/car stop a lot of people doing it.
An FPS allows me to fight in a war/hunt terrorist without any danger or firearm training.

All of these are games, they take us out of reality and place us in fantasy.
Doing step aerobics has to be the lamest fantasy i have ever heard of. Whist I feel that this will sell very well due to the gimmicky nature of the Wii and its large audience of women. I cant call it a game because at the end of the day if you replaced it with brick of the same dimensions you would have the same experience.

Th3Maverick · 18th Apr 2008, 18:24

Though, I'm not entirely sure. I think there could be some merit to the fact that it's a game, though. Though, the potential for saying it's not a game, though, certainly gives more opportunities for liberal use of the word "though", though.

EmJay · 18th Apr 2008, 19:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juppun

I can see this selling out everywhere because people think you can lose weight and "get fit" and have fun because it's on the Wii. To me this is simply a novelty item and cannot replace a good workout [...] I hope that people buy this because it's a fun and good way to get off the couch, but not be fooled into thinking it's an alternative to real exercise.

I don't think that's what it was designed for, though. There are lots of people who can't do 'a good workout' - such as the elderly, or people with foot or back injuries. Look at it as interactive yoga - it gets people working on their balance and range of motion, without being bored out of their minds (a common excuse for not exercising!) It's not going to take the place of a five mile run, but it can help people with very basic exercise needs get up and moving.

I'm also curious to see games developed to use this controller - Mario, anyone? Lean to make him run, jump to make him jump? That could be incredibly dorky, but somehow rather fun.

atanum141 · 18th Apr 2008, 20:42

This guy needs to stay off the crack

Neji · 19th Apr 2008, 00:33

If you play the game, You'll find out that it really is a lot of fun as all games should be. It becomes more fun when you get the rest of your family in on it too. The Yoga isn't simulating Yoga. It's just Yoga. The sit-ups and push ups and double jack knives are real too.

If dressing up in a penguin suit and balancing on a block of ice trying to catch fish isn't a game, then I don't know what is.

Cthippo · 19th Apr 2008, 06:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiper136

I would argue that games take a person out of reality and allow them to perform a role that would not normally be reasonably avaliable or possible at all.

To give an example, playing WoW allows a group of people to step out of their lives and become fantasy characters which can wield swords and magic. It give you something reality lacks.
A driving or flight simulator is identical. For a start the age restriction on piloting aircraft and driving cars, also the issue of the time/money it takes to learn/own a plane/car stop a lot of people doing it.
An FPS allows me to fight in a war/hunt terrorist without any danger or firearm training.

All of these are games, they take us out of reality and place us in fantasy.
Doing step aerobics has to be the lamest fantasy i have ever heard of. Whist I feel that this will sell very well due to the gimmicky nature of the Wii and its large audience of women. I cant call it a game because at the end of the day if you replaced it with brick of the same dimensions you would have the same experience.

I agree with you completly, but here's my question...

If people play games in order to expierience things they wouldn't otherwise expierience, what's the attraction to the Sims, Second life, etc?

18th Apr 2008, 14:01	#1
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18th Apr 2008, 14:20	#3
lewchenko Supermodder Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 322	Its not a game. Anyone who claims otherwise is delusional ! However... it will keep my wife occupied for many hours, and thus provide me with extra proper gaming time that I can put to good effect on my GAMING PC or PS3 ! Im sure it will sell millions, and the vast majority of the sales will be to women. Wii = The Official Womans Console.

18th Apr 2008, 14:28	#4
Baz Benchmarketeer bit-tech Staff Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Ruislip Posts: 584	Does this mean pics of Joe in his PE kit are inbound?

18th Apr 2008, 14:39	#7
Silver51 I cast flare! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Cornwall Posts: 1,180	I don't get the news segment, I think the clue is in Wii Fit's name. Rather than promoting a device, like the PS3 for portly fellows to sit motionless in front of, Nintendo is selling a peripheral to get people moving in their living rooms.

18th Apr 2008, 14:49	#8
Jonagon What's a Dremel? Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: UK Posts: 12	"Us though? We think it's definitely more of a simulation than a game" Would you not call simulations like flight sim and Driving simulators games then? You could put forward a good argument that strategy games are "war simulators" rather than games..

18th Apr 2008, 15:06	#11
themax Hypermodder Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 925	I just don't understand the whole concept. Who wants to simulate being fit? Why not do the real thing; which is also possible from the comforts of your own home (The same cost of the Wii Fit is slightly more than what I spent on at-home equipment to do light workouts with). I don't know what it is, but to me there is definately a difference in simulating fitness (we're pretending to be doing Yoga now?) than simulating A barrell roll in a Boeing 747, or drifting in a driving sim, and flanking in a war/strategy sim.

18th Apr 2008, 15:17	#13
Mister_Tad Serious about coffee Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Nottingham Posts: 7,555	Wii is of course a woman's console. Games for guys don't necessarily have to be fun, but they do have to be violent. /sarc The beauty of the Wii is that just about anyone, male or female, old or young, technically inclined or not, can find something for them on it. (I sound like ninty marketing here, but its true) Anyone seemingly except for the FPS junkies that think that a game without killing isn't a game at all (Don't get me wrong, I love a good shooter, but I dare anyone to try to play monkey ball without having fun) is DDR a game? singstar? etc Last edited by Mister_Tad; 18th Apr 2008 at 15:26.

18th Apr 2008, 15:25	#14
themax Hypermodder Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 925	Arguably,exercise is fun yes. But is it as fun as the dancing in DDR? Is it as fun as Kaereoke? That is what it seems to confuse me. I love working out, but working out doesn't stimulate me the way a good time at Kaereoke does or dancing. I've played DDR and watch people play it. There just seems to more of a "fun" factor when it comes to a game that emulates those kinds extra activities when compared to doing a Push Up on the Board for Wii Fit. I don't see me and my friends having a blast doing Yoga multiplayer, or finding out our BMI. I will admit, the soccer mini-games looks definately fun, but the rest of Wii Fit really doesn't.

18th Apr 2008, 17:11	#15
chiper136 Modder Join Date: May 2007 Location: You Kay Posts: 66	I would argue that games take a person out of reality and allow them to perform a role that would not normally be reasonably avaliable or possible at all. To give an example, playing WoW allows a group of people to step out of their lives and become fantasy characters which can wield swords and magic. It give you something reality lacks. A driving or flight simulator is identical. For a start the age restriction on piloting aircraft and driving cars, also the issue of the time/money it takes to learn/own a plane/car stop a lot of people doing it. An FPS allows me to fight in a war/hunt terrorist without any danger or firearm training. All of these are games, they take us out of reality and place us in fantasy. Doing step aerobics has to be the lamest fantasy i have ever heard of. Whist I feel that this will sell very well due to the gimmicky nature of the Wii and its large audience of women. I cant call it a game because at the end of the day if you replaced it with brick of the same dimensions you would have the same experience.

18th Apr 2008, 18:24	#16
Th3Maverick Multimodder Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Redneckville, USA Posts: 82	Though, I'm not entirely sure. I think there could be some merit to the fact that it's a game, though. Though, the potential for saying it's not a game, though, certainly gives more opportunities for liberal use of the word "though", though. __________________ Project IndustriaTek Metalhead Modders Unite!

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19th Apr 2008, 00:33	#19
Neji Multimodder Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Japan Posts: 180	If you play the game, You'll find out that it really is a lot of fun as all games should be. It becomes more fun when you get the rest of your family in on it too. The Yoga isn't simulating Yoga. It's just Yoga. The sit-ups and push ups and double jack knives are real too. If dressing up in a penguin suit and balancing on a block of ice trying to catch fish isn't a game, then I don't know what is.