News Wii Fit strengthens your rights

[CardJoe]

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2008/04..._your_rights/1

Miyamoto thinks Wii Fit is a lot of things which it isn't; a game, likely to motivate people to lose weight and now apparently a civil rights activist too.

[liratheal]

With the Wii taking off so well with younger gamers not so bothered by things like the UT3 engine, Source Engine, etcetc, why should developers continue pouring money into developing games that beat the hell out of peoples systems, when they can make a larger profit on a 2D puzzle game with unbelievably irritating waggling of controls, or jumping on an expensive bit of white plastic?

Nintendo; single handedly dismantling the desire for powerful graphics engines.

[cjoyce1980]

Originally Posted by liratheal

With the Wii taking off so well with younger gamers not so bothered by things like the UT3 engine, Source Engine, etcetc, why should developers continue pouring money into developing games that beat the hell out of peoples systems, when they can make a larger profit on a 2D puzzle game with unbelievably irritating waggling of controls, or jumping on an expensive bit of white plastic?

Nintendo; single handedly dismantling the desire for powerful graphics engines.

totally agree, nintendo has shown that graphics only make a gaming look good, it has no bearing on how it plays.

Thank god for nintendo! games should always be focused on gameplay

[Veles]

Agreed, I like shiny graphics as much as anyone (well, not too shiny cos that looks lame) but gameplay (and story depending on the game) are way more important. I think people should also start realising that good graphics don't have to be uber realistic with HDR and bloom blasting into your face, games like No More Heroes and Katamari have fantastic graphics.

[hawky84]

i'm a nintendo fan boy so i'm going to buy this anyway... but i do either way consider this a game. so what if it is a simulator? every game is simulating something whether that something is driving a car or gunning down zombies. sure actually doing fitness routines without a console is easier to do than strapping a lawn mower to your chest and charging at a zombified populus, but it is still a game

[Zut]

OH CHRIST! This isn't one of those adapt or die scenarios is it? Is *proper* gaming as we know going to have to make way for this casual, simplistic, bland, hollow, tacky white plastic shite?!

I have no desire to beat my grandmother at tennis or to jump around waggle a plastic stick around like some kind of freaking moron. If this nonsense is the future of gaming then I'm going to kill myself now. Yeah sure Ninty are very innovative and make some excellent games, but I happen to like traditional, down-to-earth western-style games. I don't want to lose that just because Myamoto thinks he can take the reigns of the entire industry.

I don't care either way about graphics. Crysis maxed out is awesome, but OpenTTD and Baldur's Gate 2 will always be my favourites! Its the systematic dumbing down and indeed watering down of proper gaming experiences that I take offence to. Games of the future will be so ridiculously easy and bland (so as to appeal to as many people as possible) that all the fun will be sapped out of them.

[yodasarmpit]

Originally Posted by Zut

OH CHRIST! This isn't one of those adapt or die scenarios is it? Is *proper* gaming as we know going to have to make way for this casual, simplistic, bland, hollow, tacky white plastic shite?!

I have no desire to beat my grandmother at tennis or to jump around waggle a plastic stick around like some kind of freaking moron. If this nonsense is the future of gaming then I'm going to kill myself now. Yeah sure Ninty are very innovative and make some excellent games, but I happen to like traditional, down-to-earth western-style games. I don't want to lose that just because Myamoto thinks he can take the reigns of the entire industry.

I don't care either way about graphics. Crysis maxed out is awesome, but OpenTTD and Baldur's Gate 2 will always be my favourites! Its the systematic dumbing down and indeed watering down of proper gaming experiences that I take offence to. Games of the future will be so ridiculously easy and bland (so as to appeal to as many people as possible) that all the fun will be sapped out of them.

You do know it's aright to like both don't you?
It doesn't make you any less a man if you also like playing some Nintendo games, it doesn't mean you have a small penis either, it just means you like both.

I'm sorry if this doesn't apply to you, but you do appear to be over compensating for something.

[sotu1]

Originally Posted by Zut

I don't care either way about graphics. Crysis maxed out is awesome, but OpenTTD and Baldur's Gate 2 will always be my favourites! Its the systematic dumbing down and indeed watering down of proper gaming experiences that I take offence to. Games of the future will be so ridiculously easy and bland (so as to appeal to as many people as possible) that all the fun will be sapped out of them.

+1. agree that i prefer to be playing more mature games that require a certain amount of skill and challenge (except when on the bus playin on me NDS)

however, I don't agree with liratheal here.

the dismantling the desire for powerful graphics engines is partly the cause of games like crysis. Spend several hundred on a PC to play crysis, causing gamers to want an acceptable yet affordable solution. Heck, even the PS3 on release date is more affordable than a decent games PC. Cheaper alternatives cash in.

[naokaji]

I agree with that nintendo guy... whenever a politician tries to ban games just remind him of his wii.

[Drexial]

Originally Posted by Zut

OH CHRIST! This isn't one of those adapt or die scenarios is it? Is *proper* gaming as we know going to have to make way for this casual, simplistic, bland, hollow, tacky white plastic shite?!

I have no desire to beat my grandmother at tennis or to jump around waggle a plastic stick around like some kind of freaking moron. If this nonsense is the future of gaming then I'm going to kill myself now. Yeah sure Ninty are very innovative and make some excellent games, but I happen to like traditional, down-to-earth western-style games. I don't want to lose that just because Myamoto thinks he can take the reigns of the entire industry.

I don't care either way about graphics. Crysis maxed out is awesome, but OpenTTD and Baldur's Gate 2 will always be my favourites! Its the systematic dumbing down and indeed watering down of proper gaming experiences that I take offence to. Games of the future will be so ridiculously easy and bland (so as to appeal to as many people as possible) that all the fun will be sapped out of them.

Man.... I hope you realize that that the origin of gaming was to the masses as bars and restaurants and at a quarter a pop. It was high and mighty people that made it n exclusive subculture, where only the 1337 would survive. Even in my hard core games, I still play casually. I mean unless your competing in tournaments, you are really only playing casually.

I enjoy playing TF2, BF2, Warhammer, WCIII, and hell even some StarCraft still. But the Wii is damn entertaining to play. I mean there is no better way to just have fun casually then getting people in Rayman Raving Rabbids. So what if its not 'serious gaming'. It's point is to have fun. Besides, consider with all the money Nintendo has made from the sales of this system. Imagine how much leverage they have with getting some bleeding edge graphics the next time around.

[Cthippo]

I think he's right.

It's going to be a lot harder for people to mindlessly decry "evil video games" when they or their friends are playing them too. Maybe not the same games, but still....

A lot of the opposition to video games is a form of bigotry based on ignorance and stereotypes. A lot of people think all videogames are a mindlessly violent waste of time played by antisocial and potentially violent boys. As more and more people experience gaming some of these stereotypes will begin to melt away.

You can imagine this conversation...

"Videogames are ruining our children, we MUST ban them!"

"Oh, shut up Ethel, you're just pissed because I beat you at Wii Tennis again"

One final thought for Zut...

Life is an adapt or die scenario. Think about it.

[chrisb2e9]

survival of the wiiest?

[Jordan Wise]

a lot of people seem to like nintendo in here because of they're disregard for push the limits graphically and instead focusing on gameplay, but really, how are they improving gameplay at all when they're never EVER trying anything new? How many none franchise (and well selling) games are available on the xbox or ps3? then compare that with games on the wii. Best sellers for wii are 'safe' games built on bloody mario and bloody zelda with pretty much the same character control system they've used since N64, same story, same cast, using the same items and collecting the same gold stars as ever. How is that innovative gameplay? Its not.

Now look at how reselling franchise games is done correctly: Final Fantasy

Since 7, every new game has had a completely different system for how your character attacks, uses magic and items and has had enormously different story lines (ok, with similar predictable plot twists but still...), different settings and main characters. People keep buying new games from that franchise because they expect the same quality of game as the rest, not the same story/gameplay/characters. Compare FF8 and FF9. What have they got in common? Just a name, chocobos and quality.

[Blademrk]

I read an MSN article earlier in the week that I sort of agree with:

Perhaps it’s my overactive imagination but I can imagine that conversations across boardrooms in Japan and Redmond saw frustrated developers trying to persuade their bosses that Nintendo’s unparalleled ability to tap into the hearts and minds of a whole new audience was not relevant to the hardcore gamers – people who do want cutting edge visuals and loud noises, people who do want their heroes to be gruff angry men and not fluffy animals.

But they were obviously overruled because we now have the two most focused gaming consoles doing their darndest to convince a largely apathetic audience that they are, in fact, not at all about shooting and football and shouting and are in fact cuddly pets that bring families together.

[rls669]

Originally Posted by hawky84

strapping a lawn mower to your chest and charging at a zombified populus

Best. Movie. Ever.

[pendragon]

pff.. Wii is great, 360 is great ..both have their niche.. neither is going away .. my $.02

[Mentai]

Originally Posted by rls669

Best. Movie. Ever.

Haha I just watched that the other week.

Also, +1 to cthippo, exactly what I was thinking when I read the article.

[Bauul]

Originally Posted by rls669

Best. Movie. Ever.

I'm not allowed to point out it was a flymo, not a lawnmower, am I?