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Tim S · 27th Apr 2008, 08:55

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/200...1b-enclosure/1

Hard drive enclosures - they may not be the most glamorous piece of kit ever, but a good one will last you a lifetime and see frequent use. In this review we take a look at Silverstone's new Treasure TS01B 2.5-inch enclosure which features RFID technology.

Adnoctum · 27th Apr 2008, 09:28

I think it was Baldur's Gate II

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Mr T · 27th Apr 2008, 10:07

If it was stolen, Can the thief not just take out the disk and put it in another enclosure?

Mankz · 27th Apr 2008, 10:14

Nice, but I got my aluminium one for £2 off Amazon, so I don't see how this is £20 better than that.

Woodstock · 27th Apr 2008, 11:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr T

If it was stolen, Can the thief not just take out the disk and put it in another enclosure?

i think it would have something to do with the actual drive, since it has to be formatted first but thats just a guess

DXR_13KE · 27th Apr 2008, 11:28

"arrrrr!!!! wers me Treasure ?"

CardJoe · 27th Apr 2008, 13:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adnoctum

I think it was Baldur's Gate II

When reviewing Joe, remember to go for the eyes!!

Well recognised - Minsc's response when approached by Devin.

g3n3tiX · 27th Apr 2008, 13:24

Does it feature encryption, unlocked by the RFID key fob, or does it just "unlock" the disk ? (Which *could* be bypassed I think by mounting the drive in another machine and fiddling with it, I think)
Without encryption the system might be useless.
Does anyone know where I could find some Y usb cable like the one on the pic ? (1x miniB, 2x usb male : 1 for power and 1 for signal and power ) as I have a WD passport, which comes with a straight USB to mini B cable, and is sufficient to power it from my PC, but my brother's laptop can't power it, so I need such cable.

zero0ne · 27th Apr 2008, 14:33

what g3n3tix said,

I mean you talked about the RFID crap, but you never mentioned EXACLTY how the RFID makes it "secure"

if the data on it is not encrypted, whats the point?

TheEclypse · 27th Apr 2008, 17:27

I imagine the RFID tag gives the encryption key. Thats why it needs a blank drive to start with, because it assumes all data on the drive is encrypted. If it cant distinguish between which files are encrypted, then all must be otherwise everything you had on there to start with will be turned into rubbish by the decryption.

outlawaol · 27th Apr 2008, 19:45

So, when connecting something like this to a pc, you have to have both the USB connection and the USB power connection? Right? Or can it just pull the power off of the existing mini USB port?

I have a WD passport that just needs one cord, and I love that fact.....

CardJoe · 28th Apr 2008, 06:48

IIRC both cables are needed

Pricester · 28th Apr 2008, 08:20

Does the RFID tag have to remain in place the whole time you're using the drive, or just to connect? Given the usual state of my desk, I can see some non-comic moments when shifting things around, knocking the key fob off the exact spot and finding the file copy that had been going on for the last 20 minutes mysteriously aborted...

Jipa · 28th Apr 2008, 09:59

I happened to review the same enclosure recently and it also works with just one USB-cable connected to the PC. Outlawaol: It's the same 2,5" HDDs inside all of these drives so how do you think some drives would require more power?

And also; I tried removing the HDD from the enclosure after the encryption process and swapped it back to a normal casing. Windows didn't find any partitions on it, so I'd say it's encrypted instead of just being "locked". And I also think it's a good thing the drive shows as empty as the thief/the one who finds the lost drive will most likely just considers it new and empty because of that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pricester

Does the RFID tag have to remain in place the whole time you're using the drive, or just to connect?

You have to just show it to the drive once and it keeps going until you disconnect it.

completemadness · 29th Apr 2008, 01:48

I'm sorry, but this review seems a little - well half ass-ed

You say its secure because it has RFID - how is it secure? did you even test its secure?

Quote:

And also; I tried removing the HDD from the enclosure after the encryption process and swapped it back to a normal casing. Windows didn't find any partitions on it, so I'd say it's encrypted instead of just being "locked". And I also think it's a good thing the drive shows as empty as the thief/the one who finds the lost drive will most likely just considers it new and empty because of that.

When the encryption is a selling point of this drive (its why your paying the money) - would it not be worth testing this?

How easy is it to bypass the RFID protection? is the encryption actually secure, or just to stop casual's?

Quote:

Outlawaol: It's the same 2,5" HDDs inside all of these drives so how do you think some drives would require more power?

2.5" drives don't have a particular power limit

they are 5v, however they can vary in the Wattage/Amperage they need - i guess this is what would kill it

I also got a WD passport, mainly due to the fact it runs purely off USB which makes life ALOT easier (especially with like laptops)

Jipa · 29th Apr 2008, 09:32

Please go ahead and tell me how to fake an RFID-tag. I'll be happy to test as soon as you come up with something

I also have no idea how to test how "secure" an encryption of some HDD is, go ahead and tell some software for testing this as well.

2,5" drives don't have a specified maximal power requirement, but I'd assume they all take pretty much the same current in the 5 V line. (i.e. if one 5400 RPM 2,5" drive works from a single USB-cable then so do most of the others. It depends more on the USB host than the drive...)

g3n3tiX · 29th Apr 2008, 12:17

Anyone knows where to find a Y usb cable ? I've failed in my search.
My Passport only needs 1 plug, but I might need 2 on another PC because it won't start up.

As for encryption : I read an article about a similar hdd w/ rfid, and the guy tested the "encryption" (it was just a xor, claiming AES !)
http://www.heise-online.co.uk/securi...tures/110136/0
So much for security.
IT APPLIES TO THIS DISK !! (read end of article)

DannyDirect · 3rd May 2008, 01:36

someone steals it, pop off the end, end of story lol, however, who is going to steal your hard drive, the only modern day thief's are called Chavs and im not sure they even know what a hard drive is lol, have a nice day.

mikeuk2004 · 28th May 2008, 00:26

Its been a month and bit-tech has not answered any questions above relating to the review which is a shame as im interested in this enclosure too.

mikeuk2004 · 1st Aug 2008, 12:18

I bought one of these yesterday from Scan which arrived today.

However im very disapointed because I for the love of god can not get this darn thing to work.

My hard disk works fine, I plugged it up to my desktop and formated it as NTFS and installed it into the silverstone case and then nothing. None of my 2 laptops will detect a disk and neither does my desktop. I removed it and plugged it back into my desktop and removed the partition all together and tried again. Still nothing so I formated it fat32 and again no detection.

Is this a case of dud equipment or am i doing somehting wrong ??????

All I get is a blue light when I plug it in. For information im using a 40GB Segate 2.5 SATA hard disk.

So far ive wasted 2 and a half hours tring to get an enclsoure to work

27th Apr 2008, 08:55	#1
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g3n3tiX Resident frenchie Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: localhost Posts: 589	Does it feature encryption, unlocked by the RFID key fob, or does it just "unlock" the disk ? (Which could be bypassed I think by mounting the drive in another machine and fiddling with it, I think) Without encryption the system might be useless. Does anyone know where I could find some Y usb cable like the one on the pic ? (1x miniB, 2x usb male : 1 for power and 1 for signal and power ) as I have a WD passport, which comes with a straight USB to mini B cable, and is sufficient to power it from my PC, but my brother's laptop can't power it, so I need such cable. __________________ I also have a MTBF.

27th Apr 2008, 17:27	#10
TheEclypse Supermodder Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: England Posts: 407	I imagine the RFID tag gives the encryption key. Thats why it needs a blank drive to start with, because it assumes all data on the drive is encrypted. If it cant distinguish between which files are encrypted, then all must be otherwise everything you had on there to start with will be turned into rubbish by the decryption. __________________ Current Rig: Shuttle ST20G5 \| AMD Athlon64 4000+ San Diego \| X1950Pro \| 200Gb Samsung SpinPoint P120S SATA \| 1GB OCZ Performance \| NEC ND3540A \| 7-in-1 Floppy

27th Apr 2008, 09:28	#2
Adnoctum Smeghead Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 90	I think it was Baldur's Gate II When reviewing Joe, remember to go for the eyes!!

27th Apr 2008, 14:33	#9
zero0ne Multimodder Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 112	what g3n3tix said, I mean you talked about the RFID crap, but you never mentioned EXACLTY how the RFID makes it "secure" if the data on it is not encrypted, whats the point?

27th Apr 2008, 19:45	#11
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28th Apr 2008, 08:20	#13
Pricester Multimodder Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Coventry, UK Posts: 105	Does the RFID tag have to remain in place the whole time you're using the drive, or just to connect? Given the usual state of my desk, I can see some non-comic moments when shifting things around, knocking the key fob off the exact spot and finding the file copy that had been going on for the last 20 minutes mysteriously aborted... __________________ Rule 7: By the time you've finished building it, it will be out of date Known as Rocketeer almost everywhere else

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Jipa Licenced idiot. Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Tampere, Finland Posts: 3,060	Please go ahead and tell me how to fake an RFID-tag. I'll be happy to test as soon as you come up with something I also have no idea how to test how "secure" an encryption of some HDD is, go ahead and tell some software for testing this as well. 2,5" drives don't have a specified maximal power requirement, but I'd assume they all take pretty much the same current in the 5 V line. (i.e. if one 5400 RPM 2,5" drive works from a single USB-cable then so do most of the others. It depends more on the USB host than the drive...) __________________ Abit IP35 - E6750 - 8800GT 1024 MB - 2 GB 800 MHz - enough HDDs - 750 W Silverstone - CM Storm Sniper Asus P5Q-VM - Q9450 - 4 GB - 400 W Silverstone - Fortress FT01 AllTheMods - MetkuMods - LedCalc

29th Apr 2008, 12:17	#17
g3n3tiX Resident frenchie Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: localhost Posts: 589	Anyone knows where to find a Y usb cable ? I've failed in my search. My Passport only needs 1 plug, but I might need 2 on another PC because it won't start up. As for encryption : I read an article about a similar hdd w/ rfid, and the guy tested the "encryption" (it was just a xor, claiming AES !) http://www.heise-online.co.uk/securi...tures/110136/0 So much for security. IT APPLIES TO THIS DISK !! (read end of article) __________________ I also have a MTBF.

3rd May 2008, 01:36	#18
DannyDirect Banned Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 21	someone steals it, pop off the end, end of story lol, however, who is going to steal your hard drive, the only modern day thief's are called Chavs and im not sure they even know what a hard drive is lol, have a nice day.

28th May 2008, 00:26	#19
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1st Aug 2008, 12:18	#20
mikeuk2004 What you Looking at Fool! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Sheffield, UK Posts: 3,048	I bought one of these yesterday from Scan which arrived today. However im very disapointed because I for the love of god can not get this darn thing to work. My hard disk works fine, I plugged it up to my desktop and formated it as NTFS and installed it into the silverstone case and then nothing. None of my 2 laptops will detect a disk and neither does my desktop. I removed it and plugged it back into my desktop and removed the partition all together and tried again. Still nothing so I formated it fat32 and again no detection. Is this a case of dud equipment or am i doing somehting wrong ?????? All I get is a blue light when I plug it in. For information im using a 40GB Segate 2.5 SATA hard disk. So far ive wasted 2 and a half hours tring to get an enclsoure to work __________________ -\|- Xfire - Mikeuk2005 -\|- Xbox Live - Mike UK 2006 -\|- Playstation Network - Mikeuk2004 -\|- Last edited by mikeuk2004; 1st Aug 2008 at 12:53.