Microsoft spills COFEE on your secrets - bit-tech.net Forums

CardJoe · 30th Apr 2008, 09:05

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2008/04...your-secrets/1

Newspapers have revealed a device given to law enforcement agencies by Microsoft which allows users to bypass security features built into Windows.

Naberius · 30th Apr 2008, 09:13

What a load of crap, do we not have any privacy anymore, all the cameras, our data constantly being monitored, just seems that theres nothing we can do in the world without someone else knowing all about it.

MiNiMaL_FuSS · 30th Apr 2008, 09:17

thats life on the grid.

Fod · 30th Apr 2008, 09:27

use a mac? or linux?
problem solved!

Buzzons · 30th Apr 2008, 09:33

Fod , you don't think tools like this exist for either of those OS's?
Issue with truecrypt is ... if that key requires the pc not to be turned off, your system drive will still be mounted.. thus no protection given.

Laitainion · 30th Apr 2008, 09:44

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Originally Posted by MiNiMaL_FuSS

thats life on the grid.

Only because we as a society has rolled over and accepted a loss of liberty for the sake of added 'security'.

What was in Benjamin Franklin said?
"Any society that is willing to give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserver neither and lose both."

Bauul · 30th Apr 2008, 09:47

I've nothing to hide! I'm proud of my mongolian porn collection!

sotu1 · 30th Apr 2008, 09:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laitainion

Quote:

Originally Posted by MiNiMaL_FuSS

thats life on the grid.

Only because we as a society has rolled over and accepted a loss of liberty for the sake of added 'security'.

What was in Benjamin Franklin said?
"Any society that is willing to give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserver neither and lose both."

you got that from playing the most educational game in the world, Civ 4, didn't you? hehe.

i think that so long as this is used for law enforcement reasons then fine. as the subtitle said, not a problem if you've got nothing to hide.

Boldar · 30th Apr 2008, 10:00

Sorry but I happen to think CS LEWIS was right

"Of all tyrannies a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive.
It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies.
The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those
who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."

sotu1 · 30th Apr 2008, 10:01

Actually, thinking about it, this is bound to get into the wrong hands. then it'll suck ass big time and become available through the net or something.

Buzzons · 30th Apr 2008, 10:08

disable plug and play?

PumpAction · 30th Apr 2008, 10:10

I wonder what the price on one of those sticks will be on the black market? How much access will you gain on a corporate\government network with these? Sounds like this will get reversed engineered/copied at some point and end up on the net unless it somehow isn't possible to copy.

Baz · 30th Apr 2008, 10:12

not a terrorist/child pornographer/tax cheat/gangster?

Then don't worry about it. I doubt law enforcement agencies have the time or resources to investigate what linux distro's you've downloaded from bit-torrent or what porn you were looking at last night.

There are so many millions of internet users, it just isn't practical to scan us all. In reality this will probably be used in ongoing or prolonged investigations, where Police IT techs would have torn apart the harddrives in question to get the data back.

Cthippo · 30th Apr 2008, 10:48

Hmmm, still waiting for something to make me think twice about switching to linux. This isn't it.

What does scare me is what else MS may be up to.

Denis_iii · 30th Apr 2008, 10:53

I believe it time I give Linux another shot.....and I was all ready to give Vista a go

CardJoe · 30th Apr 2008, 11:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bauul

I've nothing to hide! I'm proud of my mongolian porn collection!

He's not joking.

Ryu_ookami · 30th Apr 2008, 11:39

You know the scarey thing about that article isn't that its being given to Law enforcment agencies which is bad enough but that its being given to "investigatory agencies" which could cover any agency govermental or otherwise which has an investigation/information gathering department.

the whole things a bad idea but how long before this piece of equipment is standard at airports etc so that customs/airport security can check your laptop for dodgy files etc.

sadlydefiant · 30th Apr 2008, 11:55

I knew a Microsoft operating system was far from secure but I had no idea it could be accessed that quick.

Now if only more of my hardware and all my games worked in linux I would switch back.

widmod · 30th Apr 2008, 12:08

i'm glad i switched to ubuntu

airchie · 30th Apr 2008, 12:15

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Originally Posted by Buzzons

Fod , you don't think tools like this exist for either of those OS's?

I doubt they do tbh.

This is yet another nail in the coffin containing my desire to stick with MS OSes.
I'll be on Linux soon without a doubt.

30th Apr 2008, 09:05	#1
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30th Apr 2008, 09:13	#2
Naberius Multimodder Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Posts: 193	What a load of crap, do we not have any privacy anymore, all the cameras, our data constantly being monitored, just seems that theres nothing we can do in the world without someone else knowing all about it.

30th Apr 2008, 09:33	#5
Buzzons Mod Master Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 2,086	Fod , you don't think tools like this exist for either of those OS's? Issue with truecrypt is ... if that key requires the pc not to be turned off, your system drive will still be mounted.. thus no protection given.

30th Apr 2008, 10:00	#9
Boldar Supermodder Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Cotswolds Posts: 257	Sorry but I happen to think CS LEWIS was right "Of all tyrannies a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."

30th Apr 2008, 10:08	#11
Buzzons Mod Master Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 2,086	disable plug and play?

30th Apr 2008, 10:10	#12
PumpAction What's a Dremel? Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Norway Posts: 5	Black Market. I wonder what the price on one of those sticks will be on the black market? How much access will you gain on a corporate\government network with these? Sounds like this will get reversed engineered/copied at some point and end up on the net unless it somehow isn't possible to copy.

30th Apr 2008, 10:12	#13
Baz Benchmarketeer bit-tech Staff Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Ruislip Posts: 589	not a terrorist/child pornographer/tax cheat/gangster? Then don't worry about it. I doubt law enforcement agencies have the time or resources to investigate what linux distro's you've downloaded from bit-torrent or what porn you were looking at last night. There are so many millions of internet users, it just isn't practical to scan us all. In reality this will probably be used in ongoing or prolonged investigations, where Police IT techs would have torn apart the harddrives in question to get the data back.

30th Apr 2008, 10:48	#14
Cthippo Can't mod my way out of a paper bag Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bellingham, WA Posts: 4,475	Hmmm, still waiting for something to make me think twice about switching to linux. This isn't it. What does scare me is what else MS may be up to. __________________ Notice: If we see you flaming we will assume you are on fire and take appropriate measures - The Bit-Tech Fire Brigade.

30th Apr 2008, 10:53	#15
Denis_iii Hypermodder Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 874	I believe it time I give Linux another shot.....and I was all ready to give Vista a go

30th Apr 2008, 11:39	#17
Ryu_ookami Mod Master Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Ipswich Posts: 2,296	You know the scarey thing about that article isn't that its being given to Law enforcment agencies which is bad enough but that its being given to "investigatory agencies" which could cover any agency govermental or otherwise which has an investigation/information gathering department. the whole things a bad idea but how long before this piece of equipment is standard at airports etc so that customs/airport security can check your laptop for dodgy files etc. __________________ Never argue with a fool. They'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience All edits done by the Hellhound Grammar Nazi that is my evil GF.

30th Apr 2008, 11:55	#18
sadlydefiant Minimodder Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canberra Posts: 20	I knew a Microsoft operating system was far from secure but I had no idea it could be accessed that quick. Now if only more of my hardware and all my games worked in linux I would switch back.

30th Apr 2008, 12:08	#19
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