RSS



Go Back   bit-tech.net Forums > bit-tech.net > Article Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 1st May 2008, 11:40   #1
CardJoe
Player Character
bit-tech Staff
 
CardJoe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 7,940
CardJoe is a splendid one to beholdCardJoe is a splendid one to beholdCardJoe is a splendid one to beholdCardJoe is a splendid one to beholdCardJoe is a splendid one to beholdCardJoe is a splendid one to beholdCardJoe is a splendid one to beholdCardJoe is a splendid one to behold
Matt Damon wanted Myst-like Bourne Game

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2008/05...-bourne-game/1

Matt Damon apparently lobbied to have a Myst-like game for the franchise, not a shooter.

__________________
CardJoe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1st May 2008, 12:01   #2
Redbeaver
Hypermodder
 
Redbeaver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Ontario, CANADA
Posts: 718
Redbeaver will become famous soon enough
nice effort Damon. more puzzly is good. but we all need abit of action. just abit. we'll see how it goes when its out....
__________________
Monita DFI NF4 Expert - X2 3800+ 2.925Ghz - 2x1Gb OCZ Gold XTC DDR500 - 2x eVGA 7900GT SLI - 2x80Gb Seagate 7200.9 [RAID-0 4k] - Enermax Liberty 500 - Vista Ultimate x86 - Silverstone Kublai [Modded]
Keisha DFI BloodIron P35 - Q6600 3.6Ghz - 4x1Gb OCZ Gold XTC2 DDR2-800 - eVGA 8800GTS 640MB - 2x80Gb Seagate 7200.9 [RAID-0 4k] - OCZ GameXstream 700 - Vista Ultimate x86 - Silverstone TJ-06 [Modded]
www.pecelayam.com
Redbeaver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1st May 2008, 12:11   #3
DXR_13KE
Madeira's banana is the best!!!
 
DXR_13KE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Madeira ; Portugal
Posts: 6,466
DXR_13KE is a splendid one to beholdDXR_13KE is a splendid one to beholdDXR_13KE is a splendid one to beholdDXR_13KE is a splendid one to beholdDXR_13KE is a splendid one to beholdDXR_13KE is a splendid one to beholdDXR_13KE is a splendid one to behold
the game is going to suck anyway...... even if a myst like game would be a breath of fresh air considering the types of games we have.....
__________________
Renegade X - 0.40 Release! <---- CLICK!
DXR_13KE is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1st May 2008, 12:45   #4
sam.g.taylor
Apparently I'm Greg Kinnear
 
sam.g.taylor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Florida
Posts: 378
sam.g.taylor is on a distinguished road
After seeing the previews for the game that are available, I'm really disappointed. I think Damon's idea sounds much more intriguing.
__________________
In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock.
sam.g.taylor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1st May 2008, 12:50   #5
sotu1
Mini Love
 
sotu1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: England, South of.
Posts: 1,167
sotu1 is on a distinguished road
"By following the rules of the Film Actor's Guild, the world can become a better place; that handles dangerous people with talk, and reasoning; that, is the fag way. One day you'll all look at the world us actors created and say, "wow, good going, fag. You really made the world a better place, didntcha, fag?"

MatT DayMurN....DURR....

hehe, sorry couldn't resist the jab!

at the end of the day, I don't really expect any film actor/producer to haver that big an impact on the way a game is made. they're in the film industry, not the game industry. they may overlap, they may share similarities but require completely different expertise. but hey, Matt, nice to see you've got good opinions about the violence in games not being presented to kids. shame it clashes with your film ethics. good effort, fag.
__________________
Death to consolification !!!

[size=1]Give me my Windforce! I'm coming back!
sotu1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1st May 2008, 13:06   #6
p3n
Hypermodder
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Posts: 731
p3n is on a distinguished road
no-one will play it anyway
p3n is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1st May 2008, 13:17   #7
julianmartin
It's good to see you John
 
julianmartin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Guildford Massive
Posts: 1,228
julianmartin has a spectacular aura aboutjulianmartin has a spectacular aura about
Quote:
Yeah, it does seem a bit of a double-standard doesn't it? It's alright for him to play-fight for money on screen, but not for the rest of us to use a realistic representation of him to perform on-screen violence for free? Pfft.
typical joe martin again.

i COMPLETELY disagree. his films are hardly marketed at children, whereas the games could quite possibly be. you're the most biased "journalist" ever with a narrow minded hippy view. hardly good reporting.

i for one, would probably play the game because i though the myst series was GREAT.
__________________
julianmartin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1st May 2008, 13:19   #8
Mentai
Supermodder
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 491
Mentai is on a distinguished road
I'm suprised when an actor starts in a movie production they don't automatically sign their face to whatever spinoffs the film has. Eh, I didn't actually notice he didn't look the same till now.
Making a bourne adventure game wouldn't really work, I mean, you have to have action Somewhere in a bourne storyline. Combining the two game types would be kinda jarring. Hmm.
Mentai is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1st May 2008, 13:23   #9
airchie
Mod Master
 
airchie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Aberdeen, Scotland
Posts: 2,087
airchie is on a distinguished road
Thing is, even with all the action in the bourne films, its the storyline that keeps you interested.
I think the more puzzle-y game might have been more interesting.

Something along the lines of splinter cell might have been good?

Still, even if it is an FPS, they may still have the sense to include a really good story etc instead of another tired movie-tie-in rip-off.
__________________
Laptop:C2D P8600 2.4GHz, 4GB, 9800GTS, 120GB SSD, 15" 1680x1050, Vista64
Projects: 1.2TB Fileserver housed in a cardboard box!|Retro HTPC for my GF.

Quote:
Originally Posted by astralwandrer
Being a legitimate customer of the games industry is increasingly like being in a relationship with an abusive spouse.
airchie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1st May 2008, 13:37   #10
sotu1
Mini Love
 
sotu1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: England, South of.
Posts: 1,167
sotu1 is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by julianmartin View Post
typical joe martin again.

i COMPLETELY disagree. his films are hardly marketed at children, whereas the games could quite possibly be. you're the most biased "journalist" ever with a narrow minded hippy view. hardly good reporting.

i for one, would probably play the game because i though the myst series was GREAT.
Ok, joe ain't my favorite writer either, but I think you're missing the point.... there was a bit of sarcasm there....
__________________
Death to consolification !!!

[size=1]Give me my Windforce! I'm coming back!
sotu1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1st May 2008, 13:55   #11
boggsi
Multimodder
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 105
boggsi is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by julianmartin
Quote:
Yeah, it does seem a bit of a double-standard doesn't it? It's alright for him to play-fight for money on screen, but not for the rest of us to use a realistic representation of him to perform on-screen violence for free? Pfft.
typical joe martin again.

i COMPLETELY disagree. his films are hardly marketed at children, whereas the games could quite possibly be. you're the most biased "journalist" ever with a narrow minded hippy view. hardly good reporting.

i for one, would probably play the game because i though the myst series was GREAT.
Also I feel the point was that it wasn't going to be anything like Myst? Kinda like saying im TOALLY going to eat that apple.... because I think bananas are really cool.
boggsi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1st May 2008, 14:11   #12
CardJoe
Player Character
bit-tech Staff
 
CardJoe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 7,940
CardJoe is a splendid one to beholdCardJoe is a splendid one to beholdCardJoe is a splendid one to beholdCardJoe is a splendid one to beholdCardJoe is a splendid one to beholdCardJoe is a splendid one to beholdCardJoe is a splendid one to beholdCardJoe is a splendid one to behold
Quote:
Originally Posted by julianmartin View Post
typical joe martin again.

i COMPLETELY disagree. his films are hardly marketed at children, whereas the games could quite possibly be. you're the most biased "journalist" ever with a narrow minded hippy view. hardly good reporting.

i for one, would probably play the game because i though the myst series was GREAT.


Sorry. I feel my point stands though, without having to get too deep into it. The game is marketed to adults, just like the film, but what his mother seems to have implied is that Matt believes violence in films is fine, while violence in games is deplorable. For a man that actually made an action film, that is a bit of a double standard no matter how you look at that. Sure, you can say that kids would likely buy this game - but that's mooted by the fact that kids would likely see the film too. All I was doing was pointing out that if a man is going to put his face to a violent film character, it's odd that he wouldn't want to put his face to the same character in a game. I've edited the article to make this idea more clearly stated.

I actually think his idea for the game sounds good too, but I don't think it would have sold. Mass audiences wouldn't buy it.

And I'd go as far as point out that considering someone a hippy on the basis of the above point is hardly fair and is, in fact, a tad narrow-minded in itself.

I've no problem with criticism, and indeed welcome anyone to contact me directly with feedback, but at least make sure that feedback is constructive and non-inflammatory. And properly punctuated too, please.
__________________
CardJoe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1st May 2008, 14:45   #13
Bauul
Sir Bongaminge
 
Bauul's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Godalming, near Guildford
Posts: 1,553
Bauul has a spectacular aura aboutBauul has a spectacular aura about
Quote:
Originally Posted by CardJoe
I've no problem with criticism, and indeed welcome anyone to contact me directly with feedback, but at least make sure that feedback is constructive and non-inflammatory. And properly punctuated too, please.
So:

Bad:
Joe SUXORS!!1!!!

Bit better:
Joe, you suck!

Bit better still:
Joe, I'm afraid that I believe you suck, and this doesn't sit well with me at all

Perfect:
Joe, I'm afraid that your sucking is, personally for me, an undesirable quality, and I would much prefer it if you would, and I speak only for myself here, cease your sucking. If you could instead actually blow more often, if it's not too much trouble, that'd be really beneficial to my happiness. Thank you
__________________
Pentium 4 CPU 3.4 Ghz | 1Gb + 2x512Mb Corsair DDR2 667 Mhz
Sapphire Radeon HD 4770 512Mb| WD Raptor 36Gb, Seagate 300Gb | Asus P5LD2 SE
Ibanez RG 470 Japanese Edition | 1991 Japanese Lo-TRS Tremolo | V7 S1 Custom V8 HSH Pickups
Bauul is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1st May 2008, 15:19   #14
Faulk_Wulf
Internet Addict
 
Faulk_Wulf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: USA
Posts: 280
Faulk_Wulf is on a distinguished road
Either I'm missing some big in-joke or we somehow found some very pent up and viscious members on our forums today. I come here to read and post because it doesn't contain the bs-n00b-kiddies that places like Engadget does. I've never seen someone on here go: "I like Macs" and then someone go "[profanity] fanboy [lude comment about his mother]" etc. Sure there are still the devided camps, just like with everything else but its not venomately degrading to where you're scared to voice your oppinion.

My point is, Joe, just like the rest of the writers at this site, work their butts off to bring us good content and reviews. No one is forcing Bit down your throats. No one is forcing you to log in and post a comment. If you don't like the site, find another, or another. The internet is a big place.

You say Joe is bias but I read an article here or somewhere where a reviewer is always a bit biased because a video game is a subjective experience. And Joe is usually up front in his reviews saying things like "well this isn't my type of game but..." and sometimes even he is surprised how much he likes the game.

Think you can do a better job reviewing or writing articles? Apply to write for Bit. Or any other site, or start your own. But for bloody sake, don't sh*t in Bit's yard with flaming comments that are nothing better then childish abuse. You have every right to voice your oppinion but you don't have every to insult his character.

I mean seriously:

Quote:
Originally Posted by julianmartin
typical joe martin again.

i COMPLETELY disagree. his films are hardly marketed at children, whereas the games could quite possibly be. you're the most biased "journalist" ever with a narrow minded hippy view. hardly good reporting.

i for one, would probably play the game because i though the myst series was GREAT.
What the ****!

1) "Typical Joe Martin again." - This right off the bat implies that anything following is probably going to be close minded.
2) "You're the most biased 'journalist' ever..." - Most of Joe's work is a constructed subjective opinion modified into an analyse that the public can digest. Its his friggin' job. If you don't like his work, don't read it. And certainly don't b*tch in such a manner. This is miles away from constructive feedback.
3) "...ever with a narrow minded hippy view." - I can't break down all the things wrong with that but lets start with: I have friends' parents who are/were hippies. One is a very successful lawyer. One teaches Wicca. In their time, Hippies (some/most) were rallying for peace and an end to a senseless war. They saw the future more clearly then the politicians at the time. (Which kinda makes us the new Hippie-generation; but that's a conversation for another time.) In fact the only narrowminded thing I can think of is your sentence itself.
4) "Hardly good reporting." - This explains Soooo much. Refer to #2 for more.
5) "I for one would..." (et all) - This is the closest thing to a competent sentence that you wrote. Good job.

Oh and for the record. Who the hell thinks its a smart time to flame an Admin/Moderator/Author of a site ON their site ON A THREAD THEY JUST POSTED IN. You don't do that. Its not civil, its not smart, and it SHOULD get you banned.

No one's perfect. If you disagree with a review or an article you should have the right to say something. But to say something INTELLGENTLY.

------------------------------------------------

@On-Topic

I like action games, and I like puzzles. I have never played Myst, but who says they have to be mutually exclusive. You could blend it like Max Payne's dream scenes, hazy flash backs between levels, or any other of a dozen ways. I agree that its a bit of a double standard to say: "I hate violence in games; but i'll shoot everyone in this movie." I mean reverse that: Let's say they made a Max Payne movie but instead it was a Love-Drama with almost no guns. That would be retarded, right? Same deal here. I like his idea, but his logic is flawed. There's ratings on Movies and there's ratings on Games. Kids will still see what kids want to see. This marks the first time that I recall an actor talking about video games since Vin Disiel. I see this as a good thing.

------------------------------------------------

P.S. - Any typos are blamed on this craptop's IE6. I am way too dependant on Firefox's spell check. And to all the intellgent respectful members of Bit: Thank you for making this place all that it is, and to all the Bit Staff: Keep up the amazing work.
__________________
-- Faulken S. Wulf
"Under the Willow, he sleeps and dreams, of Heaven."
Attempting to post intelligently since the year 2000!

Last edited by Faulk_Wulf; 1st May 2008 at 15:27.
Faulk_Wulf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1st May 2008, 15:26   #15
steveo_mcg
What owl?
 
steveo_mcg's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Edinburgh
Posts: 3,975
steveo_mcg has a spectacular aura aboutsteveo_mcg has a spectacular aura about
The only thing i would say i Damon's defence is that US games don't have a legally enforced rating so would very easily and legally find there way into the hands of minors.

/off topic, Personally don't see the problem with the article.
__________________
No boom today, boom tomorrow... there's always a boom tomorrow.
steveo_mcg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1st May 2008, 15:57   #16
MrMonroe
Multimodder
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 195
MrMonroe is on a distinguished road
The movie is about jumping through windows and shooting people. Why should the game be untrue to that? It's a movie to video game transfer, it's going to be bad no matter what you do with it, so why not be true to the content and let people who were in love with the movies drive sales?
MrMonroe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1st May 2008, 16:00   #17
mrplow
obey the fist!!
 
mrplow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: London
Posts: 2,412
mrplow is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by Faulk_Wulf View Post
words
Faulk_Wulf and CardJoe, sitting in a tree....

__________________
Big, half-finished, parts hanging out computer
ATCS 210; MSI mATX; AMD 4000+; HD4770; 3GB DDR400; 2x120GB + 2x1TB; 19" HANNS-G
mrplow is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1st May 2008, 16:05   #18
Fishlock
Let the beat build...
 
Fishlock's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Kent, England
Posts: 372
Fishlock is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by MrMonroe View Post
The movie is about jumping through windows and shooting people. Why should the game be untrue to that? It's a movie to video game transfer, it's going to be bad no matter what you do with it, so why not be true to the content and let people who were in love with the movies drive sales?
From this post, we can clearly establish that you have either confused yourself with other films, or infact haven't seen said films.

Yes a first person shooter based around The Bourne trilogy would suck, and making it more 'puzzley' would be good. However, insulting the Trilogy just isn't cool.
__________________
M2N-SLi deluxe :: AMD X2 6000+ @3.2ghz :: Corsair XMS2 4GB :: Asus EN8800GT :: Corsair hx520w :: 150GB Raptor :: 500GB Samsung
Samsung 226bw :: Logitech G11 :: DeathAdder + Steelseries :: Antec P182se :: Logitech X-540
Fishlock is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1st May 2008, 17:16   #19
willyolio
Multimodder
 
willyolio's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 136
willyolio is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by airchie
Something along the lines of splinter cell might have been good?
yeah, i was thinking that too. bourne doesn't kill anyone unless he absolutely has to. it should be mostly a stealth/exploration game.
willyolio is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1st May 2008, 17:26   #20
Dr. Strangelove
Supermodder
 
Dr. Strangelove's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Dundee
Posts: 306
Dr. Strangelove is on a distinguished road
Well I would never get this game, but that has more to do with the fact that I read the books before watching the movies and it seems all they actually kept from the books were the titles and some of the character names. The books are fantastic, the movies are probably good if you have not read the books, but if you have they are bad :-(
Anyway I see no reason why you could not merge action and myst.. could be quite cool.. I liked Myst!
__________________
If it isn’t broken, fix it.
If it is broken, mod it till it looks like it's meant to be broken.
Dr. Strangelove is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 03:10.
Powered by: vBulletin Version 3
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.