NIN releases free album - bit-tech.net Forums

Bindibadgi · 6th May 2008, 14:45

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2008/05...s-free-album/1

Trent Reznor has released another album for DRM-free digital download, but this time it's completely free for the whole thing - as a "thank you" to his fans.

Mankz · 6th May 2008, 14:50

Downloaded.

Arkanrais · 6th May 2008, 15:08

got it earlier today. its good, though I've only started listening to NIN in the past week.

Tris · 6th May 2008, 15:16

its certainly going to do him good from a PR perspective - and the cynic in me says thats probably all this is. Would be nice to think that he is just playing around trying to get the distribution model right before he tries another full scale paid for release.
Regardless of intent, this can only help bring the music industry up to date as the idea gets spread to a wider audience.

sotu1 · 6th May 2008, 15:43

can someone explain to me....if the album is being released free how does the band make money? The only way I can see it happening is by people going on to buy earlier albums or paying for exclusive material (which in this situation i can't really see much of that happening)

chicorasia · 6th May 2008, 15:56

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Originally Posted by sotu1

can someone explain to me....if the album is being released free how does the band make money? The only way I can see it happening is by people going on to buy earlier albums or paying for exclusive material (which in this situation i can't really see much of that happening)

Generally speaking, the main source of income to bands and artists is ticket sales to their concerts.

E.E.L. Ambiense · 6th May 2008, 16:02

Pulled it yesterday morning. Good stuff. IMO, two really good tracks that stand out. Besides, can't beat the price!

Tris · 6th May 2008, 16:23

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Originally Posted by chicorasia

Quote:

Originally Posted by sotu1

can someone explain to me....if the album is being released free how does the band make money? The only way I can see it happening is by people going on to buy earlier albums or paying for exclusive material (which in this situation i can't really see much of that happening)

Generally speaking, the main source of income to bands and artists is ticket sales to their concerts.

and merchandise of course

E.E.L. Ambiense · 6th May 2008, 16:33

Depends on the artists too. Indie artists generally make all their money from merch and concerts. CD sales are basically a write-off, if they're on a small label. If they're releasing and distributing it themselves, that's another story. NIN is a well-established project, with a lot of fans/listeners. Mr. Reznor knows how to drive a business at this point, and he's doing it in strides.

TreeDude · 6th May 2008, 17:45

Trent has said before these last 2 albums that CD prices are way too high. He has even told fans at shows to steal the album instead, because even he would not pay that much. Give the music away so more people come to the concerts. It is truly all about the music for him.

VipersGratitude · 6th May 2008, 20:06

How the record industry works:
http://archive.salon.com/tech/feature/2000/06/14/love/

DXR_13KE · 6th May 2008, 21:42

NIN are now on my white list of cool bands.

AngelOfRage · 7th May 2008, 01:10

Cool, i'll give it a listen. I'd always been aware of NIN, but it was only With Teeth that i really liked. I downloaded the previous free album but haven't listened to it much.

r4tch3t · 7th May 2008, 01:39

I have never heard NIN music before, but I think I will download it tonight.

Andy Mc · 7th May 2008, 08:17

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The release goes beyond merely free as in beer, too: the album is being provided under the attribution noncommercial sharealike Creative Commons license. What this means for fans of Reznor's music is that the album can be shared on your favourite file sharing sites, uploaded to your personal website, or even remixed into new tracks – so long as you attribute Nine Inch Nails in the finished article.

You missed out the noncommercial bit, meaning that you can also not make any money form the end product of your sampling/remixing/whatever of these tracks.

Ghys · 7th May 2008, 14:04

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Originally Posted by DXR_13KE

NIN are now on my white list of cool bands.

who else is on the list?

Bladestorm · 7th May 2008, 18:27

Hrm, better than ghosts, imho (I didn't like that very much, but this I like).

Rebourne · 8th May 2008, 07:02

He's got the right idea. I bought ghosts and really liked it. I don't like this one as much but It is still good. The fact he released it as .wav files is really cool too.

Sp! · 8th May 2008, 11:04

Trent is no fool, he doesn't need to make money but by realseing this for free, he will make money form the media coverage, incresed ticket/ merchandise sales, maybe a few extra back catalouge sales. but there will also no doubt be a super limited edition $500 release to follow and he knows full well that he has a large fan base that will go and buy the cd even though it's avalible for free because they will buy anything and everything NIN.

Also you have to think how much money he's saved on not having 1000,000 copies of this cd pressed, not advertising anywhere expect the NIN website etc etc. especially as a good proportion of the profits of cd sales goes to the shops and distributers not to the artist or record lables!

6th May 2008, 14:45	#1
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6th May 2008, 15:08	#3
Arkanrais Supermodder Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Wangamadness, New Zealand Posts: 330	got it earlier today. its good, though I've only started listening to NIN in the past week. __________________ Visit my DeviantArt page or I'll make you squeal like a piggy and throw a spatula at you. FEAR THE SPATULA! What the hell part of a chicken is the nugget?! goddamn McDonalds and their LIES!

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sotu1 Mini Love Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: England, South of. Posts: 1,169	can someone explain to me....if the album is being released free how does the band make money? The only way I can see it happening is by people going on to buy earlier albums or paying for exclusive material (which in this situation i can't really see much of that happening) __________________ Death to consolification !!! [size=1]Give me my Windforce! I'm coming back!

6th May 2008, 16:02	#7
E.E.L. Ambiense Acrylic Heretic Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Malabar, FL Posts: 2,727	Pulled it yesterday morning. Good stuff. IMO, two really good tracks that stand out. Besides, can't beat the price! __________________ Latest Builds: "Movie Sign!" • CheckMate - MotM May '09 ~~Nominee~~ Loser! • BluBawx I • Lumière Noire - MotM Apr. '08 ~~Nominee~~ Loser! • Razzle Dazzle • CMC Field Server • "Building Better Worlds" - MotM Feb. '08 ~~Nominee~~ Loser! • Biohazard • MicroSuperFly

6th May 2008, 16:33	#9
E.E.L. Ambiense Acrylic Heretic Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Malabar, FL Posts: 2,727	Depends on the artists too. Indie artists generally make all their money from merch and concerts. CD sales are basically a write-off, if they're on a small label. If they're releasing and distributing it themselves, that's another story. NIN is a well-established project, with a lot of fans/listeners. Mr. Reznor knows how to drive a business at this point, and he's doing it in strides. __________________ Latest Builds: "Movie Sign!" • CheckMate - MotM May '09 ~~Nominee~~ Loser! • BluBawx I • Lumière Noire - MotM Apr. '08 ~~Nominee~~ Loser! • Razzle Dazzle • CMC Field Server • "Building Better Worlds" - MotM Feb. '08 ~~Nominee~~ Loser! • Biohazard • MicroSuperFly

6th May 2008, 15:16	#4
Tris Multimodder Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Cambridge, UK Posts: 109	its certainly going to do him good from a PR perspective - and the cynic in me says thats probably all this is. Would be nice to think that he is just playing around trying to get the distribution model right before he tries another full scale paid for release. Regardless of intent, this can only help bring the music industry up to date as the idea gets spread to a wider audience.

6th May 2008, 17:45	#10
TreeDude Multimodder Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 239	Trent has said before these last 2 albums that CD prices are way too high. He has even told fans at shows to steal the album instead, because even he would not pay that much. Give the music away so more people come to the concerts. It is truly all about the music for him.

6th May 2008, 20:06	#11
VipersGratitude Supermodder Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 295	How the record industry works: http://archive.salon.com/tech/feature/2000/06/14/love/

6th May 2008, 21:42	#12
DXR_13KE Madeira's banana is the best!!! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Madeira ; Portugal Posts: 6,473	NIN are now on my white list of cool bands. __________________ *Renegade X - 0.40 Release!* <---- CLICK!

7th May 2008, 01:10	#13
AngelOfRage Supermodder Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cheshire, UK Posts: 463	Cool, i'll give it a listen. I'd always been aware of NIN, but it was only With Teeth that i really liked. I downloaded the previous free album but haven't listened to it much. __________________ Main PC - Intel Q6600 \| 4GB DDR2-6400 \| X800GT 256mb \| SB Audigy 2 EX \| Antec 300 Laptop - Dell XPS M1530 \| Intel T9300 2.5GHz \| 8600m GT \| 3GB DDR2

7th May 2008, 01:39	#14
r4tch3t hmmmm.... Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: New Zealand Posts: 2,885	I have never heard NIN music before, but I think I will download it tonight. __________________ Fight my Brute The quantum limit of reality might be scaled up because we're all holograms. Obviously. Once more we see that sufficiently advanced physics is indistinguishable from getting really stoned. From here

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Bladestorm Hypermodder Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 682	Hrm, better than ghosts, imho (I didn't like that very much, but this I like). __________________ Athlon 64 X2 3800+ @ 250x10 (1.475v) \| EVGA GTX 260 55nm SSC \| A8N-SLI Premium \| 2x(4GB) Corsair Twinx2048-PC3200C2 \| Asus Xonar DX \| Antec truepower 550w \| Akasa Eclipse-62 DDC12VPlus1, DD TDX, 3/8 tygon r3603 tubing, PA120.2, DD double floppy bay res

8th May 2008, 07:02	#18
Rebourne Supermodder Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 321	He's got the right idea. I bought ghosts and really liked it. I don't like this one as much but It is still good. The fact he released it as .wav files is really cool too.

8th May 2008, 11:04	#19
Sp! Hypermodder Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Hemel Posts: 975	Trent is no fool, he doesn't need to make money but by realseing this for free, he will make money form the media coverage, incresed ticket/ merchandise sales, maybe a few extra back catalouge sales. but there will also no doubt be a super limited edition $500 release to follow and he knows full well that he has a large fan base that will go and buy the cd even though it's avalible for free because they will buy anything and everything NIN. Also you have to think how much money he's saved on not having 1000,000 copies of this cd pressed, not advertising anywhere expect the NIN website etc etc. especially as a good proportion of the profits of cd sales goes to the shops and distributers not to the artist or record lables!