C&C: Kane's Wrath Producer Interview - bit-tech.net Forums

Tim S · 22nd Jun 2008, 08:34

http://www.bit-tech.net/gaming/2008/...er-interview/1

As Kane's Wrath prepares to launch on Xbox 360, we chat to executive producer Jim Vesella about the future of the C&C franchise, working with Joe Kucan, the difference between PC and console RTS games and how Red Alert 3 is shaping up...

lewchenko · 22nd Jun 2008, 10:54

Nice Interview.

There are 3 problems they urgently need to sort out with regards to the C&C franchise, be it PC or 360.

1. The Zoom level is way too claustrophobic. I hate it. It doesnt have to be as magnificent as Supreme Commander, but come on... being 3inches above the ground is just 1990 all over again. RTS games have moved on since then!

2. The balance issues. It was always a joke that to win games, you just had to tank rush your opponent. Still seems to be relatively true for C&C.

3. PC ISSUE ONLY - Online play. Hosting your own games is a port-forward nightmare. I think in C&C3 they even printed the wrong port numbers in the manual. Never seen so many comments about online issues on the forums.

But otherwise keep up the good work. The reason I buy C&C games is the story plus the actors (Jennifer Morrison MMmmmmm), despite the limitations pointed out above.

But seriously... do something about the zoom. Saying its fine as it is, and focussing the player to the nose of the action (literally) is a lame ass answer which ignores the root of the complaint.

wuyanxu · 22nd Jun 2008, 11:35

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BT: And judging from what you’ve said, I take it there’s no plans for cross-platform play in Kane’s Wrath?

JV: No, not for this game. No. We’re still trying to get to the stage where the console controls can match the PC controls. We think we’re almost there, but it’ll take some time yet.

never! not even with their new controls.
a few buttons and triggers cannot beat the QW and ERTYU build queue managment. on PC, with fast scrolling of right mouse + location shortcuts, one can issue orders far, far faster than the crappy analogue stick.

just face it and forget consolification

lewchenko · 22nd Jun 2008, 11:49

PS3 version - just give us Keyboard and Mouse. MS may have their heads up their own Asses, but Sony doesnt.

Dreaming · 22nd Jun 2008, 12:52

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Originally Posted by lewchenko

PS3 version - just give us Keyboard and Mouse. MS may have their heads up their own Asses, but Sony doesnt.

So everyone who gets a RTS game for a console has to plug in PC accessories to play it?

I honestly don't see what's wrong with making the console controls more intuitive and effective.

Now having said that, another point is it wasn't mentioned how poor the support on the PC has been. There have been gamebreaking bugs in kane's wrath and it's not until this week (hopefully) that the 1.01 patch will be released. If you build AA structures and attack them with air units - insta de-sync. Many people take advantage of bugs to ensure they never lose a match. Whilst at the same time I worked out a way in my head to guaruntee number 1 position in their 'competitive league' ranking system.

BlackMage23 · 22nd Jun 2008, 13:53

Why not have the option of using a keyboard a mouse on the console version. It certanly would not hurt to have it in.

rollo · 22nd Jun 2008, 14:44

rts games dont belong on consoles nuff said

Gunsmith · 22nd Jun 2008, 15:59

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Originally Posted by rollo

rts games dont belong on consoles nuff said

THIS.

wuyanxu · 22nd Jun 2008, 16:30

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Originally Posted by rollo

rts games dont belong on consoles nuff said

quote for truth!

speaking of PC support. i can only HOPE 64bit Vista gets fully supported.
i know CnC3 worked fine, but sometimes it just jumps out of the MP game due to "desynchronization" which i am 100% sure wasn't due to connection problem, cos we are both wire connected to a LAN router.

samkiller42 · 22nd Jun 2008, 17:59

Nice interview joe, would have been nice for a heads up so we could post some questions direct to Jim ourselfs, although, one of my questions was answered on a previous episode of BCPT

Going back to RA3, EA have announced the best news ever, apart from the fact their making RA3, but the man behind the music of C&C is back: http://www.ea.com/redalert/news-detail.jsp?id=13

I will be getting this on 360, although i have it on PC, but i like a challenge, so yea, i will be getting it.

Sam

CardJoe · 22nd Jun 2008, 18:02

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Originally Posted by samkiller42

Nice interview joe, would have been nice for a heads up so we could post some questions direct to Jim ourselfs

I would of actually, but this was done with very little fore-warning. I'm looking forward to doing more reader questions in future interviews, but it's a case of having enough time in advance.

korhojoa · 22nd Jun 2008, 20:29

Hum, errors?

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We start at the end of the second Tiberium War where Tiberium Sun left off where Kane was just defeated and is physically weak.

That should be Tiberian sun, yes?

22nd Jun 2008, 08:34	#1
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samkiller42 KEEP IT CLEAN! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Havant, Hampshire, England Posts: 3,189	Nice interview joe, would have been nice for a heads up so we could post some questions direct to Jim ourselfs, although, one of my questions was answered on a previous episode of BCPT Going back to RA3, EA have announced the best news ever, apart from the fact their making RA3, but the man behind the music of C&C is back: http://www.ea.com/redalert/news-detail.jsp?id=13 I will be getting this on 360, although i have it on PC, but i like a challenge, so yea, i will be getting it. Sam __________________ The Rig: i7 920 D0, Gigabyte EX58-UD5, 12GB DDR3 1600mhz, BFG GTX295, Samsung 64gb SSD, WD 640gb Black, Samsung F2 Eco 1TB, Dell 3007WFP, Windows 7 RC. The Netbook: Samsung NC10 Black, Intel Atom, 2gb DDR2 The Mac: Awaiting Delivery

22nd Jun 2008, 10:54	#2
lewchenko Supermodder Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 322	Nice Interview. There are 3 problems they urgently need to sort out with regards to the C&C franchise, be it PC or 360. 1. The Zoom level is way too claustrophobic. I hate it. It doesnt have to be as magnificent as Supreme Commander, but come on... being 3inches above the ground is just 1990 all over again. RTS games have moved on since then! 2. The balance issues. It was always a joke that to win games, you just had to tank rush your opponent. Still seems to be relatively true for C&C. 3. PC ISSUE ONLY - Online play. Hosting your own games is a port-forward nightmare. I think in C&C3 they even printed the wrong port numbers in the manual. Never seen so many comments about online issues on the forums. But otherwise keep up the good work. The reason I buy C&C games is the story plus the actors (Jennifer Morrison MMmmmmm), despite the limitations pointed out above. But seriously... do something about the zoom. Saying its fine as it is, and focussing the player to the nose of the action (literally) is a lame ass answer which ignores the root of the complaint.

22nd Jun 2008, 11:49	#4
lewchenko Supermodder Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 322	PS3 version - just give us Keyboard and Mouse. MS may have their heads up their own Asses, but Sony doesnt.

22nd Jun 2008, 14:44	#7
rollo Multimodder Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 208	rts games dont belong on consoles nuff said