"BioShock should have flopped" - bit-tech.net Forums

CardJoe · 24th Jun 2008, 12:38

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2008/06...have-flopped/1

Lead Programmer Chris Kline was obviously delighted that BioShock turned out such a success, but admits that he didn't expect it to happen...

DXR_13KE · 24th Jun 2008, 12:46

chaos theory... it works!

Timmy_the_tortoise · 24th Jun 2008, 12:59

Bioshock is over-rated. I don't like it.. Too much Art Deco.. The twenties should definitely be forgotten.

yakyb · 24th Jun 2008, 13:08

very pretty game but very repetitive (but not as repetitive as assasins creed)

cjoyce1980 · 24th Jun 2008, 13:22

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Originally Posted by yakyb

very pretty game but very repetitive (but not as repetitive as assasins creed)

name a game that isn't repetitive....

Mister_Tad · 24th Jun 2008, 13:28

COD4, any game which lasts for only 6 hours doesn't have a chance to get repetitive.

Bindibadgi · 24th Jun 2008, 13:34

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Originally Posted by Timmy_the_tortoise

Bioshock is over-rated. I don't like it.. Too much Art Deco.. The twenties should definitely be forgotten.

Uh, no. Art Deco and Nuvo are fantastic art styles.

wuyanxu · 24th Jun 2008, 13:38

this shows the importance of planning and Gantt charts.

but thankfully, it turned out to be great.

Jordan Wise · 24th Jun 2008, 13:44

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Originally Posted by Timmy_the_tortoise

Bioshock is over-rated. I don't like it.. Too much Art Deco.. The twenties should definitely be forgotten.

the art deco was by far the best thing about it! i'm quite annoyed that no other games have experimented in style the way bioshock did

Veles · 24th Jun 2008, 13:44

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Originally Posted by Mister_Tad

COD4, any game which lasts for only 6 hours doesn't have a chance to get repetitive.

CoD4 is quite repetitive;

Get to checkpoint
Die
Restart from checkpont
Die
etc.

Bioshock could have been a legendary epic game, but instead it turned out to be a better than average FPSRPG, although I did enjoy the game, I think it could have been so much more.

Timmy_the_tortoise · 24th Jun 2008, 13:59

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Originally Posted by Bindibadgi

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Originally Posted by Timmy_the_tortoise

Bioshock is over-rated. I don't like it.. Too much Art Deco.. The twenties should definitely be forgotten.

Uh, no. Art Deco and Nuvo are fantastic art styles.

So your opinion goes...

Art Deco makes me, personally, feel sick. I hate it.

Solidus · 24th Jun 2008, 14:04

The game never deserved the 10/10 mark it was given. Too many websites gave into the media hype.

Gunsmith · 24th Jun 2008, 14:12

bioshock: a poor mans SS2 for the console generation.

CardJoe · 24th Jun 2008, 14:42

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Originally Posted by Timmy_the_tortoise

So your opinion goes...

Art Deco makes me, personally, feel sick. I hate it.

True, but the game is set in the 40s and 50s, not the 20s anyway.

Cobalt · 24th Jun 2008, 14:42

They didn't make a good new game they made SS2 with a different setting and consolised it. Still wasn't as compelling as SS2 though. Bioshock never really scared me, despite the graphical enhancements and surround sound.

KoenVdd · 24th Jun 2008, 14:54

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Some people think that constantly messing up, and pushing dates isn’t a good way to make a game, but as far as I’m concerned it’s the only way to make a good game.

I think VALVe already knew this for a Loooong time. Hope this bodes well for DNF

Mentai · 24th Jun 2008, 15:16

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Originally Posted by CardJoe

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Originally Posted by Timmy_the_tortoise

So your opinion goes...

Art Deco makes me, personally, feel sick. I hate it.

True, but the game is set in the 40s and 50s, not the 20s anyway.

Mere technicalities in the face of art deco hate!

alexandros1313 · 24th Jun 2008, 16:14

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Originally Posted by Gunsmith

bioshock: a poor mans SS2 for the console generation.

This man has said it all.

Demon Cleaner · 24th Jun 2008, 16:39

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Originally Posted by Mister_Tad

COD4, any game which lasts for only 6 hours doesn't have a chance to get repetitive.

I love COD4 as much as the next person. But I have to admit it took me about 15minutes of repetitive shooting from the same building (mid game) before I realised that the enemies were going to respawn forever.

knyghtryda · 24th Jun 2008, 16:51

Bioshock is a great game for those gamers who missed out on System Shock 2, just like Deus Ex 2 was a decent game for those who never played Deus Ex (please, if you haven't played Deus Ex, go play it. It may be flawed in parts, but it takes one hell of a flawed game to get GOTY awards all over the place...) My main dig against Bioshock however is that they took the EXACT SAME story arc of SS2 and stuck it with an art deco setting. Who needs spoilers when you already know the big twist because its exactly the same as the previous game? I thought the big reveal was done well in Bioshock, but it was nowhere near as disturbing, scary, or moving as the big reveal in SS2.

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Cobalt Multimodder Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Surrey, UK Posts: 248	They didn't make a good new game they made SS2 with a different setting and consolised it. Still wasn't as compelling as SS2 though. Bioshock never really scared me, despite the graphical enhancements and surround sound.

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