45% of all traffic is P2P, say Sandvine - bit-tech.net Forums

CardJoe · 25th Jun 2008, 08:29

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2008/06...affic-is-p2p/1

Figures released by network equipment vendor Sandvine yesterday show peer-to-peer networking accounting for almost half of overall US Internet traffic.

RotoSequence · 25th Jun 2008, 08:44

I'd like to see this from someone other than a company who is in a position to make a profit from their statistics. Sounds like there could be some significant exaggerations; last time I saw something on traffic percentiles, something on the order of 45% of traffic was streaming video. So who is telling the truth?

liratheal · 25th Jun 2008, 08:59

Never once have I even had a letter from my ISP telling me that I download too much. In recent months I've been grabbing dozens of Linux distros and live CD's (Testing them for a little server, hard to find a suitable one!) and have been going over the 'limit' easily. Of course, there are the WoW patches too (That 1.1gb I had to download twice recently, which was fun), and the Eve client this month, which is another near-as-makes-no-difference gb file.

DougEdey · 25th Jun 2008, 09:23

The UK is getting stupid with traffic shaping now, apparantly I am always in the "top 5% of downloaders each week" which I find an unfair allegation as if people barely use the internet and I'm not taking bandwidth I should not be punished. I need to shout at them later today actually.

Glider · 25th Jun 2008, 09:34

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Originally Posted by liratheal

In recent months I've been grabbing dozens of Linux distros and live CD's (Testing them for a little server, hard to find a suitable one!) and have been going over the 'limit' easily.

Debian netinstall, all you need to know

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Originally Posted by RotoSequence

last time I saw something on traffic percentiles, something on the order of 45% of traffic was streaming video. So who is telling the truth?

I always tought 75% was SPAM going around...

Woodstock · 25th Jun 2008, 09:44

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Originally Posted by Glider

Quote:

Originally Posted by liratheal

In recent months I've been grabbing dozens of Linux distros and live CD's (Testing them for a little server, hard to find a suitable one!) and have been going over the 'limit' easily.

Debian netinstall, all you need to know

Quote:

Originally Posted by RotoSequence

last time I saw something on traffic percentiles, something on the order of 45% of traffic was streaming video. So who is telling the truth?

I always tought 75% was SPAM going around...

i was gonna say the same thing for both...

liratheal · 25th Jun 2008, 09:52

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Originally Posted by Glider

Debian netinstall, all you need to know

I always tought 75% was SPAM going around...

I could never get on with Debian, no idea why, but the hardware is.. Weird. I'd go into detail, but we'd end up miles off topic :B

And yeah, I agree with the spam sentiment.

Shadow_101 · 25th Jun 2008, 09:59

"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics."

scarrmrcc · 25th Jun 2008, 13:21

45% of all statics are made up.

Ryu_ookami · 25th Jun 2008, 13:24

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Originally Posted by Shadow_101

"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics."

damm you beat me to it anyway

QFT +!

Timmy_the_tortoise · 25th Jun 2008, 13:28

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Originally Posted by scarrmrcc

45% of all statics are made up.

I heard that was more like 90%

Firehed · 25th Jun 2008, 13:50

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Originally Posted by Timmy_the_tortoise

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Originally Posted by scarrmrcc

45% of all statics are made up.

I heard that was more like 90%

Nope, 105%.

Anyways, IIRC P2P usage used to be estimated at 60-70% of all net traffic, not ~35%. Not that those numbers aren't 100% guesswork, but still... down?

rollo · 25th Jun 2008, 14:18

only 45% lol

Think with connection always on ( computer always on usauly)

Download upload doesnt exeeed 60gb a month.

Never had a email saying im a heavy user.

p3n · 25th Jun 2008, 16:19

As long as ISPs dont advertise 'always on' 16 Mb connections then limit you to 5gb transfer per month then they dont need this crappy hardware, they need a lawsuit from trading standards..

Project_Nightmare · 25th Jun 2008, 16:43

Unless they create a program that marks the legal p2p downloads (ie bittorrent game patches and research transfering) or spyware that monitors and blocks certain programs, the pirates will always win. I already knew that it took a lot of bandwith, but what would people do with their free time

B3CK · 25th Jun 2008, 19:31

Well if they would raise the upload speed, you would see more people using ftp servers out of their house, instead of p2p.
Also this is a bad idea of monitoring traffic, as this will just add more latency to the games you play; or VOIP calls you make. Even if they set it to ignore those protocals, thats one or more hops and inspections those packets make on their way to the destination.

yodasarmpit · 25th Jun 2008, 19:46

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Originally Posted by RotoSequence

last time I saw something on traffic percentiles, something on the order of 45% of traffic was streaming video. So who is telling the truth?

Things like SkyPlayer, iPlayer, 4oD all use P2P protocols so a large chunk of streaming video could be classed as P2P.

DXR_13KE · 25th Jun 2008, 20:12

i wonder if this 45% of pirate traffic also translates to about 45% of the clients pirating....

chicorasia · 25th Jun 2008, 20:35

It used to be said that 75% of all internet traffic is SPAM. I saw a very recently survey that stated that 85% of all traffic was video streaming. Now it seems that the real villain is P2P networking. We should take this numbers with a huge grain of salt - of course Sandvine wants to sell their packet filtering gear!

The SPAM you and I get on our inboxes:

"Herbal solution to enl4arge you p3ni5"

The SPAM ISP staff gets in their inboxes

"Ultimate solution to r3duc3 your P2P overhe4d"

Gareth Halfacree · 25th Jun 2008, 21:49

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Originally Posted by chicorasia

The SPAM ISP staff gets in their inboxes

"Ultimate solution to r3duc3 your P2P overhe4d"

I may have actually torn something laughing at that. You're getting the bills from my chiropractor.

25th Jun 2008, 08:29	#1
CardJoe Player Character bit-tech Staff Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 7,940	45% of all traffic is P2P, say Sandvine http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2008/06...affic-is-p2p/1 Figures released by network equipment vendor Sandvine yesterday show peer-to-peer networking accounting for almost half of overall US Internet traffic. __________________ this is joe's non-bit-tech blog

25th Jun 2008, 08:44	#2
RotoSequence Lazy Lurker Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: 'States Posts: 4,526	I'd like to see this from someone other than a company who is in a position to make a profit from their statistics. Sounds like there could be some significant exaggerations; last time I saw something on traffic percentiles, something on the order of 45% of traffic was streaming video. So who is telling the truth? __________________ Technology Schmecnology

25th Jun 2008, 08:59	#3
liratheal Just got a great book on tape Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: High Wycombe, UK Posts: 3,550	Never once have I even had a letter from my ISP telling me that I download too much. In recent months I've been grabbing dozens of Linux distros and live CD's (Testing them for a little server, hard to find a suitable one!) and have been going over the 'limit' easily. Of course, there are the WoW patches too (That 1.1gb I had to download twice recently, which was fun), and the Eve client this month, which is another near-as-makes-no-difference gb file. __________________ Gigabyte MA790FX, X4 9950 Black Edition, 8gb Geil Black Dragon, 2x4870 512mb, Antec TruePower Quattro 850w I game, Do you?

25th Jun 2008, 09:23	#4
DougEdey I pwn all your storage Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Southampton Posts: 13,933	The UK is getting stupid with traffic shaping now, apparantly I am always in the "top 5% of downloaders each week" which I find an unfair allegation as if people barely use the internet and I'm not taking bandwidth I should not be punished. I need to shout at them later today actually. __________________ Burnout: Paradise Stats!XBL: DougEdey Bindi PSN ID: DougEdey Twitter

25th Jun 2008, 09:59	#8
Shadow_101 Mudkips. Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Harborne, Birmingham Posts: 1,090	"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." __________________ Network Engineering & Security, CCNA, ITIL (F). GM IT Security Analyst

25th Jun 2008, 13:21	#9
scarrmrcc Modder Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 57	45% of all statics are made up.

25th Jun 2008, 14:18	#13
rollo Multimodder Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 206	only 45% lol Think with connection always on ( computer always on usauly) Download upload doesnt exeeed 60gb a month. Never had a email saying im a heavy user.

25th Jun 2008, 16:19	#14
p3n Hypermodder Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 731	As long as ISPs dont advertise 'always on' 16 Mb connections then limit you to 5gb transfer per month then they dont need this crappy hardware, they need a lawsuit from trading standards..

25th Jun 2008, 16:43	#15
Project_Nightmare Minimodder Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 43	Unless they create a program that marks the legal p2p downloads (ie bittorrent game patches and research transfering) or spyware that monitors and blocks certain programs, the pirates will always win. I already knew that it took a lot of bandwith, but what would people do with their free time

25th Jun 2008, 19:31	#16
B3CK Supermodder Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Dallas, Texas Posts: 349	Well if they would raise the upload speed, you would see more people using ftp servers out of their house, instead of p2p. Also this is a bad idea of monitoring traffic, as this will just add more latency to the games you play; or VOIP calls you make. Even if they set it to ignore those protocals, thats one or more hops and inspections those packets make on their way to the destination. __________________ "God loves stupid people, that is why he made so many of them." My best friend at M$ Tech support.

25th Jun 2008, 20:12	#18
DXR_13KE Madeira's banana is the best!!! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Madeira ; Portugal Posts: 6,460	i wonder if this 45% of pirate traffic also translates to about 45% of the clients pirating.... __________________ *Renegade X - 0.40 Release!* <---- CLICK!

25th Jun 2008, 20:35	#19
chicorasia Multimodder Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 83	It used to be said that 75% of all internet traffic is SPAM. I saw a very recently survey that stated that 85% of all traffic was video streaming. Now it seems that the real villain is P2P networking. We should take this numbers with a huge grain of salt - of course Sandvine wants to sell their packet filtering gear! The SPAM you and I get on our inboxes: "Herbal solution to enl4arge you p3ni5" The SPAM ISP staff gets in their inboxes "Ultimate solution to r3duc3 your P2P overhe4d"