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Tim S · 26th Jun 2008, 15:39

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/200...0-widescreen/1

NEC's MultiSync LCD3090WQXi is the company's first foray into the world of 30-inch monitors and what an entry it has made! The display is packed full of features and delivered some of the best image quality we've ever seen - read on to find out why this is the screen we'd all love to own!

Mongoose132 · 26th Jun 2008, 16:06

Aahhh, if only i could afford £1,500 for a monitor, but i don't think i'll be using somthing like that with a 2600xt

Timmy_the_tortoise · 26th Jun 2008, 16:12

When can I get a cheap and cheerful 30" TN+ Film Display?

Kylevdm · 26th Jun 2008, 16:18

Tim used a 9600GT with both this and another 26" display, and got about 60 FPS on TF2

The boy 4rm oz · 26th Jun 2008, 16:36

That is a very nice monitor. Shame about the price though. Oh well, I have to wait for my 19" to die before I can upgrade to a 22" ws or larger

.

_DTM2000_ · 26th Jun 2008, 16:44

Dear Santa, as I've been a very good boy this year.......

gmmail1980 · 26th Jun 2008, 17:02

Hi Tim,

this time monitor is from professional ones. And I still thinking that paragraphs' - "Objective Image Quality Analysis" header just do not deserve word - "Objective". Human eyes subjective, hardware not (DeltaE measurments pre after calibration). I missing these things. I just can't go with this review to my boss and take responsibility for my companys' spent money. Maybe my thoughts wasnt right around £ 150 value thing (ViewSonic VX1940w review).. But in this case..........

I'm personally using MultiSync® LCD2090UXi and X-Rites' "Eye One Proof" bundle for DTP color management things at my work, and this review can't argue me to upgrade. I need more detailed things...

cheers

naokaji · 26th Jun 2008, 17:06

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it's undoubtedly a boon for any IT department looking to roll LCD3090s out across their business.

just quoting that in hopes that my boss reads it

*subtle hint, buy me two of them k thx bye*

Monitors of that size sure are tempting, if only they would drop in price a bit faster.

Tim S · 26th Jun 2008, 17:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by gmmail1980

Hi Tim,

this time monitor is from professional ones. And I still thinking that paragraphs' - "Objective Image Quality Analysis" header just do not deserve word - "Objective". Human eyes subjective, hardware not (DeltaE measurments pre after calibration). I missing these things. I just can't go with this review to my boss and take responsibility for my companys' spent money. Maybe my thoughts wasnt right around £ 150 value thing (ViewSonic VX1940w review).. But in this case..........

I'm personally using MultiSync® LCD2090UXi and X-Rites' "Eye One Proof" bundle for DTP color management things at my work, and this review can't argue me to upgrade. I need more detailed things...

cheers

I hear your point - I did remember your constructive criticisms before and I was expecting your comment.

Having said that, I did want to test the self-calibration out and also measure DeltaE, but sadly no calibrator was supplied with the display for review (that's normally what happens with monitors like this, but it strangely didn't happen this time). I'm not sure why, because I'm not the only one that's had this problem either... I'll see if I can borrow one from somewhere for a few days.

OleJ · 26th Jun 2008, 19:49

Right on the mark of my forum post about monitors

Anyway: Is it me not understanding the images in the delay section or did you misinterpret them? I thought the clock was counting up in seconds? In such case the Dell is around .025 faster in all shots but the fourth. ?

Mr T · 26th Jun 2008, 19:52

Man you guys in the bit offices need to invest in some nice new keyboards :P

Mankz · 26th Jun 2008, 20:53

ITS HUGE.

It seems very deep and 'bulky'.

I wouldn't say no though!

crompers · 26th Jun 2008, 21:05

£1,500 on a monitor and then another £350 on the vid hardware to run it. The spending power of some enthusiasts never fails to amaze me.

nice screen though, certainly wouldn't turn a free one down!

Tim S · 26th Jun 2008, 21:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by OleJ

Anyway: Is it me not understanding the images in the delay section or did you misinterpret them? I thought the clock was counting up in seconds? In such case the Dell is around .025 faster in all shots but the fourth. ?

Sorry, that's my mistake and you're right - I must've had a massive brain fart when I wrote that portion of the review; that's my only explanation (I had been playing around with the OCZ NIA at the same time... so maybe that was responsible

). The counter is counting upwards so yes the Dell is actually slightly faster by around two hundredths of a second. However, the delay wasn't noticeable in the several hours (each) of gaming and video watching I did on the screen - the Dell is, like I say, generally considered to be as lag-free as they come.

OleJ · 26th Jun 2008, 23:31

Video watching is naturally not influenced by the IO lag in the display except perhaps for audio being slightly out of sync for the super-naturally acute

Gaming wise though I'd be a bit more wary as 2/100 of a second is 20ms and most gamers cry if the g2g (gray to gray) is above 10ms.
The 25ms+ IO lag (on top of the Dells lag) would deter any lag obsessive gamer from the monitor.

To put it by the numbers this is NOT a gaming monitor. But again you wouldn't buy this for gaming unless you had too much money and didn't care about refresh rates.
I would reckon that the monitors 12-bit LUT (lookup table) might be causing this since color and image correctness is weighted above refresh rates on this monitor.

r-gator · 26th Jun 2008, 23:57

For $2k I'd Rather have the widescreen Wacom Cintiq20WSX. That's just me though as I'm a graphic artist. Sure it might be 10" smaller, but working directly on the screen is worth 10."

Peace

Woodstock · 27th Jun 2008, 07:42

id love something like that but, cant help think that 30 would be a little overwhelming size wize especially in portrait

naokaji · 27th Jun 2008, 08:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by OleJ

To put it by the numbers this is NOT a gaming monitor. But again you wouldn't buy this for gaming unless you had too much money and didn't care about refresh rates.

well, its certainly not a monitor for those playing ut or quake, but for sc2 it would be perfect (it might even drop in price a bit until thats out

).

Timmy_the_tortoise · 27th Jun 2008, 12:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by naokaji

Quote:

Originally Posted by OleJ

To put it by the numbers this is NOT a gaming monitor. But again you wouldn't buy this for gaming unless you had too much money and didn't care about refresh rates.

well, its certainly not a monitor for those playing ut or quake, but for sc2 it would be perfect (it might even drop in price a bit until thats out

).

My 24" is great for Medieval II.. but a 30" would always be welcome.

For a RTT/Strategy game like that, bigger is always better.

edjay · 29th Jun 2008, 15:42

Shame about the price. Has anyone heard anything about this DAEWOO 30" for half the price:

http://www.pixmania.co.uk/uk/uk/6660...lcd30kal-sensy

Sorry, edited as link no longer valid.

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gmmail1980 What's a Dremel? Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 4	Hi Tim, this time monitor is from professional ones. And I still thinking that paragraphs' - "Objective Image Quality Analysis" header just do not deserve word - "Objective". Human eyes subjective, hardware not (DeltaE measurments pre after calibration). I missing these things. I just can't go with this review to my boss and take responsibility for my companys' spent money. Maybe my thoughts wasnt right around £ 150 value thing (ViewSonic VX1940w review).. But in this case.......... I'm personally using MultiSync® LCD2090UXi and X-Rites' "Eye One Proof" bundle for DTP color management things at my work, and this review can't argue me to upgrade. I need more detailed things... cheers

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OleJ Me! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 1,986	Video watching is naturally not influenced by the IO lag in the display except perhaps for audio being slightly out of sync for the super-naturally acute Gaming wise though I'd be a bit more wary as 2/100 of a second is 20ms and most gamers cry if the g2g (gray to gray) is above 10ms. The 25ms+ IO lag (on top of the Dells lag) would deter any lag obsessive gamer from the monitor. To put it by the numbers this is NOT a gaming monitor. But again you wouldn't buy this for gaming unless you had too much money and didn't care about refresh rates. I would reckon that the monitors 12-bit LUT (lookup table) might be causing this since color and image correctness is weighted above refresh rates on this monitor. __________________ Quickr! Clickr to my Flickr! Canon camera stuff. Some aluminium PC, an HTPC and a MBP 17"..

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edjay Wet and Gwyntog Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: North Wales Posts: 26	Shame about the price. Has anyone heard anything about this DAEWOO 30" for half the price: http://www.pixmania.co.uk/uk/uk/6660...lcd30kal-sensy Sorry, edited as link no longer valid. Last edited by edjay; 22nd Aug 2008 at 21:11.