XP support extended to 2014 - bit-tech.net Forums

CardJoe · 27th Jun 2008, 09:20

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2008/06...nded-to-2014/1

Microsoft has decided to continue supporting Windows XP until 2014, and will actively encourage business users to 'downgrade' from Vista.

rjkoneill · 27th Jun 2008, 09:35

im still not keen on rolling out vista on the work networks

i still have trouble finding things in vista at home due to heavy xp use at work

if i was to roll out vista i think company productivity would suffer

makkone- · 27th Jun 2008, 09:37

XP still in usage at work and in home, and i see no reason to "upgrade" to vista. If it ain't broke etc...

Paradigm Shifter · 27th Jun 2008, 09:54

Only reason I can see (for me) to switch to Vista is CrossFireX with a pair of 4870X2's when they're released. Still, the chances of me actually going quadfire are so slim it's not really worth worrying about right now.

I quite like Vista as an HTPC OS, but as my day to day OS, I still prefer XP by a long shot.

banshee256 · 27th Jun 2008, 10:04

The only reason I have Vista, is because I couldn't choose XP when I bought my new Dell computer.

Having said that, I'm actually a bit (positively) surprised by Vista. It might be a resource-hog, but when you have the resources, it's no slower than XP. But it's not faster either. The only REAL difference I've experienced, is, that it looks a lot better and the interface is a lot better thought out.

But I see no reason for a company to spend X amount of pounds to upgrade all their computers to Vista. There's just no point.

johnnyboy700 · 27th Jun 2008, 10:30

I'll stick with XP until I'm forced to jump. I've tried Vista on my wife's laptop and I find that I prefer XP for most things but Vista does have some nice touches but it gets so much bad press, how much is doom mongers slagging it for the sake of it and how much is genuine I can't decide.
I know it did have problems at the start (the iPod issue and EAX to name two) but they are getting there, shame it wasn't right at the launch.

Dreaming · 27th Jun 2008, 10:44

I find vista to be easier to use now I'm used to it, but it's the same with anything. And the resource usage I think is an intelligent thing. If you have 2gb memory, in xp it will use the bare minimum, in vista it will try and utilise more to load frequently used programs into the memory pre-emptively. Quite clever when you think about it.

But an OS is an OS, it's in some ways like discussing hammers - it's just a tool so you can get / do what you really want.

Phil Rhodes · 27th Jun 2008, 10:48

> I'll stick with XP until I'm forced to jump.

Ditto.

It's not so much doom-mongers as people looking for reasons it's worthwhile. XP offers me absolutely nothing more than 2000 did, which really only offered stability increases over 98, so I have no idea what they could possibly offer me after three major releases and ten years without a really notable change in anything.

BlackMage23 · 27th Jun 2008, 11:17

I use XP on my work machine, and the company has said that it has no intentions to change that for the moment.
I aggree with banshee256, vista is not bad when you throw a ton of RAM at it, but that should not really be the answer to getting it working well. I am hoping that windows 7 turns out to be a lot better - though that will probably need 8gb of ram to run well.

perplekks45 · 27th Jun 2008, 11:56

I had Vista installed at home 'till Tuesday but then Vista decided that I had less than a week before my copy expired. Vista Business from uni + SP1 Beta = evaluation copy.

Back at XP, trying SP3 at the moment, runs fine and fast (it was shocking to see how fast XP is after > 6 months on Vista) and I don't plan to go back to Vista before October at least. Hopefully I'll find the time to set up a dual-boot system once I moved to England.

Anyways, at work we just got our test PCs for Vista (yay for being in the IT department of a 100 people sub company of tesa

) and we have more issues than you can imagine (well, maybe you can).
Using infor:COM 6.4 as ERP system... no Vista support. It works somehow but noone knows if it really is 100% stable and if everything works as intended. It's also getting quite stressy as we're just the IT department of the sub and Beiersdorf (the company behind tesa) hired BSS to take care of IT what means every single decision made by us has to be given to tesa and BSS for approval... i.e. "Why the hell can't you just make me local admin on my bloody Vista test PC?!"... waiting for an answer for > 1 week.
tesa will roll out Vista to all their employees by the end of this year and I'm just happy to not be there anymore as this will be such a mess.

Gunsmith · 27th Jun 2008, 12:04

i jumped to vista for the tri-sli support, and i must say as an OS it is growing on me.

Timmy_the_tortoise · 27th Jun 2008, 12:22

Vista is supposed to look better than XP.. but I much prefer the old XP appearance.. with the blue and the green start button.

E7130 · 27th Jun 2008, 12:23

What is with this crap news. Microsoft has always had life cycles of its products. Windows 98 was supported up until 2006 with updates and fixes. Windows 2000 made it all the way to service pack 4. Windows Server 2000 is STILL supported. I use vista and xp at home and work, there is always going to be issues; when XP was released business people and most everyone else threw up there hands too.

Xir · 27th Jun 2008, 12:34

My company runs 2000 and xp ;-)

Timmy_the_tortoise · 27th Jun 2008, 12:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xir

My company runs 2000 and xp ;-)

We run XP... and there's no plans to shift to Vista any time soon.. I'll be long long long gone by that time. If it even happens.

Hustler · 27th Jun 2008, 13:07

I bought a cheap laptop with Vista Premium installed, after 2mths i upgraded to XP and it was like a whole new machine.

Unless you have 2Gb ram, Vista is just too slow,

Win Xp Sp 3 + 1GB ram + Budget laptop = happiness.

TreeDude · 27th Jun 2008, 13:28

I run Vista Ult on my main gaming machine. Even with 4gb of RAM and a Radeon 3870 it didn't feel snappy enough. I turned off all the effects except for Aero and it sped things up quite a bit. I have an old P3 laptop that I run Ubuntu on for just web and IM.

pizan · 27th Jun 2008, 13:33

i still run XP at home and at work we have some XP, 2000, NT and DOS lol, some of the machines don't need anything above that so why upgrade?

Phil Rhodes · 27th Jun 2008, 15:01

> something normal like XP

The pity here is that XP - seen as horribly bloated and slow compared to 2k - is now seen as "normal".

naokaji · 27th Jun 2008, 15:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phil Rhodes

> something normal like XP

The pity here is that XP - seen as horribly bloated and slow compared to 2k - is now seen as "normal".

Computers have improved enough that xp runs at the same speed as win2k did a few years ago. Same will happen with vista, once 8 core nehalems, 12 GB DDR3, radeon 6850 and 4 ssd's in raid 0 are low end rubbish in 2011 or so.

27th Jun 2008, 09:20	#1
CardJoe Player Character bit-tech Staff Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 7,940	XP support extended to 2014 http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2008/06...nded-to-2014/1 Microsoft has decided to continue supporting Windows XP until 2014, and will actively encourage business users to 'downgrade' from Vista. __________________ this is joe's non-bit-tech blog

27th Jun 2008, 09:35	#2
rjkoneill overclocked his 500th i7 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Stoke On Trent UK Posts: 146	im still not keen on rolling out vista on the work networks i still have trouble finding things in vista at home due to heavy xp use at work if i was to roll out vista i think company productivity would suffer __________________ † i7 920 4.2GHz † Rampage II Extreme † OCZ Blade 2GHz† †CrossFire 4890 1GHz † Full System Water Cooling † TJ07 †

27th Jun 2008, 09:37	#3
makkone- Gentlemen. Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Finland Posts: 19	XP still in usage at work and in home, and i see no reason to "upgrade" to vista. If it ain't broke etc... __________________ Gaming Rig: E2200@3450MHz \| Abit IP35-E \| PNY 8800GT+Arctic Cooling Accelero S1 \|Mushkin XP2-6400 2x2Gb \| Xigmatek HDT-S1283 \| Razer DeathAdder \| Apple alu-keyboard Netbook: Samsung NC10 \| Server: Dell Optiplex GX270

27th Jun 2008, 09:54	#4
Paradigm Shifter Lethargic Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,210	Only reason I can see (for me) to switch to Vista is CrossFireX with a pair of 4870X2's when they're released. Still, the chances of me actually going quadfire are so slim it's not really worth worrying about right now. I quite like Vista as an HTPC OS, but as my day to day OS, I still prefer XP by a long shot. __________________ Core i7 920 D0 @ 3.8GHz \| 6GB Corsair 1600MHz \| Gigabyte EX58-UD5 \| XFX 4870X2 2GB \| 4TB \| WUXGA

27th Jun 2008, 10:04	#5
banshee256 Minimodder Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Denmark Posts: 34	The only reason I have Vista, is because I couldn't choose XP when I bought my new Dell computer. Having said that, I'm actually a bit (positively) surprised by Vista. It might be a resource-hog, but when you have the resources, it's no slower than XP. But it's not faster either. The only REAL difference I've experienced, is, that it looks a lot better and the interface is a lot better thought out. But I see no reason for a company to spend X amount of pounds to upgrade all their computers to Vista. There's just no point. __________________ Future Dell Inspiron 531 DT owner

27th Jun 2008, 10:30	#6
johnnyboy700 Hypermodder Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 783	I'll stick with XP until I'm forced to jump. I've tried Vista on my wife's laptop and I find that I prefer XP for most things but Vista does have some nice touches but it gets so much bad press, how much is doom mongers slagging it for the sake of it and how much is genuine I can't decide. I know it did have problems at the start (the iPod issue and EAX to name two) but they are getting there, shame it wasn't right at the launch.

27th Jun 2008, 10:44	#7
Dreaming Supermodder Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: The University of York Posts: 501	I find vista to be easier to use now I'm used to it, but it's the same with anything. And the resource usage I think is an intelligent thing. If you have 2gb memory, in xp it will use the bare minimum, in vista it will try and utilise more to load frequently used programs into the memory pre-emptively. Quite clever when you think about it. But an OS is an OS, it's in some ways like discussing hammers - it's just a tool so you can get / do what you really want. __________________ Dreaming C2D E6300 @ 2.8 \| \| Abit IP35 Pro \| \| 4GB Corsair XMS2 800 \| \| BFG 8800GTS OC2 320MB \| \| 500GB Western Digital for OS + 1500GB Seagate for Storage \| \| Antec NeoHE 550 \| \| Lian Li PC A05B \| \| Samsung 226BW 22"

27th Jun 2008, 10:48	#8
Phil Rhodes Supermodder Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 574	> I'll stick with XP until I'm forced to jump. Ditto. It's not so much doom-mongers as people looking for reasons it's worthwhile. XP offers me absolutely nothing more than 2000 did, which really only offered stability increases over 98, so I have no idea what they could possibly offer me after three major releases and ten years without a really notable change in anything.

27th Jun 2008, 11:17	#9
BlackMage23 RPG Loving Freak Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Temple of Fiends Posts: 159	I use XP on my work machine, and the company has said that it has no intentions to change that for the moment. I aggree with banshee256, vista is not bad when you throw a ton of RAM at it, but that should not really be the answer to getting it working well. I am hoping that windows 7 turns out to be a lot better - though that will probably need 8gb of ram to run well. __________________ I am the Black Mage. I cast the spells that makes the peoples fall down!

27th Jun 2008, 11:56	#10
perplekks45 BSc... finally Join Date: May 2004 Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 3,346	I had Vista installed at home 'till Tuesday but then Vista decided that I had less than a week before my copy expired. Vista Business from uni + SP1 Beta = evaluation copy. Back at XP, trying SP3 at the moment, runs fine and fast (it was shocking to see how fast XP is after > 6 months on Vista) and I don't plan to go back to Vista before October at least. Hopefully I'll find the time to set up a dual-boot system once I moved to England. Anyways, at work we just got our test PCs for Vista (yay for being in the IT department of a 100 people sub company of tesa ) and we have more issues than you can imagine (well, maybe you can). Using infor:COM 6.4 as ERP system... no Vista support. It works somehow but noone knows if it really is 100% stable and if everything works as intended. It's also getting quite stressy as we're just the IT department of the sub and Beiersdorf (the company behind tesa) hired BSS to take care of IT what means every single decision made by us has to be given to tesa and BSS for approval... i.e. "Why the hell can't you just make me local admin on my bloody Vista test PC?!"... waiting for an answer for > 1 week. tesa will roll out Vista to all their employees by the end of this year and I'm just happy to not be there anymore as this will be such a mess. __________________ "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far." Blame it on Cheaps! [now a social group]

27th Jun 2008, 12:04	#11
Gunsmith my supersonic radar will help me! Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 1,388	i jumped to vista for the tri-sli support, and i must say as an OS it is growing on me. __________________ People who optimise code are wimps. My code knows it's awesome, so it'll take all the time it needs. You can wait in awe

27th Jun 2008, 12:22	#12
Timmy_the_tortoise International Man of Awesome Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: County Durham, UK Posts: 961	Vista is supposed to look better than XP.. but I much prefer the old XP appearance.. with the blue and the green start button. __________________ Q6600 @ 2.40GHz w/G0\|Gigabyte GA-G33M-DS2R\|4GB OCZ Gold PC-6400 800MHz\|Powercolor Radeon HD4850\|Samsung Spinpoint F1 1TB\|Scythe Ninja Mini\|LG Blu-ray/HD DVD/DVD-RW Combo Drive\|Corsair TX650W\|Antec NSK2480 Pioneer VSX-417\|2x Gale 3010\|2x Yamaha NSP110\| MS304W Centre \| MS308 Subwoofer

27th Jun 2008, 12:23	#13
E7130 Shinju Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 19	What is with this crap news. Microsoft has always had life cycles of its products. Windows 98 was supported up until 2006 with updates and fixes. Windows 2000 made it all the way to service pack 4. Windows Server 2000 is STILL supported. I use vista and xp at home and work, there is always going to be issues; when XP was released business people and most everyone else threw up there hands too.

27th Jun 2008, 12:34	#14
Xir Supermodder Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 526	My company runs 2000 and xp ;-) __________________ SN25P A64 3700+ (San Diego) 2 GB DDR400 OCZ Platinum EL 2-3-2-5 1T X1800XT 512mb Sapphire 200GB Samsung SP2004C

27th Jun 2008, 13:07	#16
Hustler Multimodder Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Dark Side Posts: 115	I bought a cheap laptop with Vista Premium installed, after 2mths i upgraded to XP and it was like a whole new machine. Unless you have 2Gb ram, Vista is just too slow, Win Xp Sp 3 + 1GB ram + Budget laptop = happiness.

27th Jun 2008, 13:28	#17
TreeDude Multimodder Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 238	I run Vista Ult on my main gaming machine. Even with 4gb of RAM and a Radeon 3870 it didn't feel snappy enough. I turned off all the effects except for Aero and it sped things up quite a bit. I have an old P3 laptop that I run Ubuntu on for just web and IM.

27th Jun 2008, 13:33	#18
pizan that's n00b-tastic Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: North NJ, USA Posts: 216	i still run XP at home and at work we have some XP, 2000, NT and DOS lol, some of the machines don't need anything above that so why upgrade? __________________ Primary Rig: AMD 6000+, Asus Crosshair, 4GB OCZ Reaper DDR2-800, 8800GTX SLi, Antec 900, Asus Trtion 79 Amazing, PCP&P Silencer 750 Secondary Rig: Intel 8400, Asus P5E-VM HDMI, 4GB OCZ Platimnum, PaLit 9600GT Sonic 1GB, NZXT Rogue, OCZ ModXStream 780w

27th Jun 2008, 15:01	#19
Phil Rhodes Supermodder Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 574	> something normal like XP The pity here is that XP - seen as horribly bloated and slow compared to 2k - is now seen as "normal".