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CardJoe · 8th Jul 2008, 13:52

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2008/07...elty-console/1

Microsoft's Aaron Greenberg thinks that the Wii is little more than a novelty console, suitable for parties and nothing else.

Timmy_the_tortoise · 8th Jul 2008, 13:58

Gotta agree...

The only Wii game I really spent a lot of time with and actually had fun playing alone was The Godfather: Blackhand Edition. Good game.

koola · 8th Jul 2008, 14:11

I have to agree with the guy, it's fun for parties and that's it.

zimbloggy · 8th Jul 2008, 14:32

I agree. I have not really seen very many real non-party games for the wii that are any good.

I also am wondering if nintendo is going to continue the wii style control scheme for the next console. if they continue with that, it will get old, but if they change back to a gamepad, that would be kind of boring for them...

Darkedge · 8th Jul 2008, 14:35

he's right - and i have played smash bros and it's pretty damn rubbish. Haven't bought a game since the overrated SM Galaxy and haven't turned my wii on in months - tbh wish I'd sold it last Christmas when everybody wanted one.

Timmy_the_tortoise · 8th Jul 2008, 14:36

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Originally Posted by zimbloggy

I agree. I have not really seen very many real non-party games for the wii that are any good.

I also am wondering if nintendo is going to continue the wii style control scheme for the next console. if they continue with that, it will get old, but if they change back to a gamepad, that would be kind of boring for them...

I'm interested in when the next Gameboy is coming...

Remember Nintendo saying that the DS WOULDN'T replace the GBA.. and that it was a 3rd pillar?

I don't think Nintendo remembers.

MrMonroe · 8th Jul 2008, 14:55

This is not news, this is propaganda. He's trying to explain away the failings of his company against Nintendo so that people who own a 360 will feel comfortable acting superior and refusing to buy a Wii.

Yeah, the Wii appeals to a different audience than the 360. A larger one. And why? Because it's good for parties.

Firehed · 8th Jul 2008, 15:03

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Originally Posted by koola

I have to agree with the guy, it's fun for parties and that's it.

Ditto. Had one for months... played Zelda most of the way through though tbh I got bored with it towards the end and never ended up finishing. Brought it out at school a couple times for some team events, and that was the extent of its use. It's long-since been sold, though I wish I'd sold it for more. Oh well, I don't miss it.

I'm not so sure I'd call it a novelty, but it really doesn't lend itself well to more traditional gaming. Which is fine, so long as you know that going in.

reaper1984 · 8th Jul 2008, 15:04

The whole article could be paraprased to "nah nah, our console's better than yours, buy ours."

I'm still playing the Wii, just bought Tiger Woods 2008 and I'm very impressed. Much more involved and a much bigger challenge than the Wii Sports golf (as you would expect). I would never buy a golf game on a regular console, what's the point of pressing buttons to mimic something so active?

What I don't understand is why Nintendo is standing still on so many games that traditionally would not sell well, but with the different and intuitive controller can work.

Things like - Wii cricket - the mind boggles at the possibilities of this, yet there's still no sign of a game from EA...

A port of the Rocky game from the Xbox 360, but with the Wii controls, come on Nintendo! It would be awesome.

More dedicated sports games, there are too many to mention, but this is the way to go.. get on with it!

salesman · 8th Jul 2008, 15:07

RE4 on the wii is all i play and it is very fun.

Timmy_the_tortoise · 8th Jul 2008, 15:09

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Originally Posted by reaper1984

I would never buy a golf game on a regular console, what's the point of pressing buttons to mimic something so active?

When was the last time you played a Golf Game?

EA have been using analogue control in Tiger Woods games since TW2002 on the PS2... and It works better than the Wiimote's overly sensitive controls.

Timmy_the_tortoise · 8th Jul 2008, 15:12

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Originally Posted by salesman

RE4 on the wii is all i play and it is very fun.

True.. That is a good game, but there's not enough new to make me play through again.. Since I already finished it on the 'Cube.

devdevil85 · 8th Jul 2008, 15:14

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Originally Posted by Aaron Greenberg

"those customers are eventually going to want to graduate to an Xbox 360 experience"

Gotta love the use of graduate there...it's as if your intelligence will be 'brought back to normal' or something after you're done playing it and decide to go and purchase a 360.....amazing PR right there my friends...

Mcmonopoly · 8th Jul 2008, 15:17

Sounds like people in the industry are still trying to cut down the Wii since it's been selling like hot cakes since it's release.

I now own 10 games for the Wii, the most I ever owned for any console I had (I had almost all of them up to the PS2).

The sports games are nice for the fact that it uses the motion thingie, but when games like TW2008, which is excellent, come out, it makes even more sense to have this type of console.

I can enjoy GH3, Manhunt 2, RE4, etc. exactly as with the other boxes, although I still can't have any DLC, but that will all change with GH:WT.

Mario Kart Is another Gem IMHO, been grinding time away on that game since it came out.

So I say to each is own, and I think that Nintendo as reached a lot of casual players that would never have gone back to consoles game if it weren't for the Wii (myself included).

DarkLord7854 · 8th Jul 2008, 15:19

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Originally Posted by koola

I have to agree with the guy, it's fun for parties and that's it.

Yep, or with roommates, but eh.. I sold mine and got a 360.. Happy with that now, even when playing by myself

Mcmonopoly · 8th Jul 2008, 15:20

[quote=Timmy_the_tortoise]

Quote:

Originally Posted by reaper1984

EA have been using analogue control in Tiger Woods games since TW2002 on the PS2... and It works better than the Wiimote's overly sensitive controls.

That was a joke right?

Golf is all about thumb rotation and analog sticks right....Geez..

And as far as the controls being over sensitive, like in real life in takes practice to get better.. O_o

Nexxo · 8th Jul 2008, 15:22

It's a novelty console that whips the XBox 360's butt in sales figures.

Mcmonopoly · 8th Jul 2008, 15:23

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Originally Posted by Nexxo

It's a novelty console that whips the X0Box 360's butt in sales figures.

+1

Juppun · 8th Jul 2008, 15:24

I blame shovelware. All that mini-game crap has built up a "party only console" rep for the Wii pretty quickly. And how about Nintendo make some new stuff for a change? I love Zelda and SSBB as much as the next guy but come on... it's time for a new franchise already. Bring back Pikmin or something at least, the latest Mario Kart is definately showing its age now (yeah I know, it's probably never gonna happen

).

rollo · 8th Jul 2008, 15:24

exactly nexx

8th Jul 2008, 13:52	#1
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8th Jul 2008, 15:17	#14
Mcmonopoly What now?! Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Montreal. Canada Posts: 59	Sounds like people in the industry are still trying to cut down the Wii since it's been selling like hot cakes since it's release. I now own 10 games for the Wii, the most I ever owned for any console I had (I had almost all of them up to the PS2). The sports games are nice for the fact that it uses the motion thingie, but when games like TW2008, which is excellent, come out, it makes even more sense to have this type of console. I can enjoy GH3, Manhunt 2, RE4, etc. exactly as with the other boxes, although I still can't have any DLC, but that will all change with GH:WT. Mario Kart Is another Gem IMHO, been grinding time away on that game since it came out. So I say to each is own, and I think that Nintendo as reached a lot of casual players that would never have gone back to consoles game if it weren't for the Wii (myself included). __________________ ''Don't be fooled; I may appear wise, but I'm an idiot..!!'' Asus P5k-E\|Q6600 @ 3.3 \|BFG 280GTX OC 1GB\|4GB OCZ 6400\|1xWD 120GB 1xWD 160GB\|1X Seagate 250GB\|Xigmatek 750W modular\|Vista Ultimate x64

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8th Jul 2008, 14:32	#4
zimbloggy Multimodder Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 75	I agree. I have not really seen very many real non-party games for the wii that are any good. I also am wondering if nintendo is going to continue the wii style control scheme for the next console. if they continue with that, it will get old, but if they change back to a gamepad, that would be kind of boring for them...

8th Jul 2008, 14:35	#5
Darkedge Supermodder Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: UK Posts: 334	he's right - and i have played smash bros and it's pretty damn rubbish. Haven't bought a game since the overrated SM Galaxy and haven't turned my wii on in months - tbh wish I'd sold it last Christmas when everybody wanted one.

8th Jul 2008, 14:55	#7
MrMonroe Multimodder Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 195	This is not news, this is propaganda. He's trying to explain away the failings of his company against Nintendo so that people who own a 360 will feel comfortable acting superior and refusing to buy a Wii. Yeah, the Wii appeals to a different audience than the 360. A larger one. And why? Because it's good for parties.

8th Jul 2008, 15:04	#9
reaper1984 What's a Dremel? Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 14	The whole article could be paraprased to "nah nah, our console's better than yours, buy ours." I'm still playing the Wii, just bought Tiger Woods 2008 and I'm very impressed. Much more involved and a much bigger challenge than the Wii Sports golf (as you would expect). I would never buy a golf game on a regular console, what's the point of pressing buttons to mimic something so active? What I don't understand is why Nintendo is standing still on so many games that traditionally would not sell well, but with the different and intuitive controller can work. Things like - Wii cricket - the mind boggles at the possibilities of this, yet there's still no sign of a game from EA... A port of the Rocky game from the Xbox 360, but with the Wii controls, come on Nintendo! It would be awesome. More dedicated sports games, there are too many to mention, but this is the way to go.. get on with it!

8th Jul 2008, 15:07	#10
salesman Multimodder Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 165	RE4 on the wii is all i play and it is very fun.

8th Jul 2008, 15:24	#19
Juppun Run Sackboy Run! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: London Posts: 675	I blame shovelware. All that mini-game crap has built up a "party only console" rep for the Wii pretty quickly. And how about Nintendo make some new stuff for a change? I love Zelda and SSBB as much as the next guy but come on... it's time for a new franchise already. Bring back Pikmin or something at least, the latest Mario Kart is definately showing its age now (yeah I know, it's probably never gonna happen ). __________________ Workstation: Mac Pro [ 23.2Ghz, 8GB, 3TB, 8800GT ] SR80i. Rig:* Antec P182 [ P5N32-E SLi, Q6600 G0, HX620W, 4GB, Raptor X, 8800GTX OC ACS3, 8600GT, X-Fi XtremeMusic ] Z-5500. Flickr\| PSN/XBL: OrcaGT

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rollo Multimodder Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 206	exactly nexx