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CardJoe · 10th Jul 2008, 11:03

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2008/07...or-fallout-3/1

Bethesda has confirmed that Fallout 3 will ship without any developer tools for the PC version in an announcement today.

Cobalt · 10th Jul 2008, 11:20

Bethesda games practically require mod tools. They don't seem to be able to make them quite right by themselves. Even the much acclaimed Morrowind needed a bit of love from the mod community. Oblivion is barely worth playing at all without one or other of the major overhauls (or all of them for those using FCOM).

bowman · 10th Jul 2008, 11:31

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Howard went on to explain that though he would love to see PC-made content made available on consoles, but that there are too many barriers on consoles which prevent this from becoming a possibility.

Oh, yeah, you would love marketing the user-made content by PC users for your console versions, and simultaneously take away one of the advantages the consoles haven't stolen already. I bet. I just bet.

What a bunch of console sellouts.

g3n3tiX · 10th Jul 2008, 12:56

They just shot themselves in the foot.

Most of quite successful games have user created content, which was made because the tools were easily available : half life, Morrowind (great stuff to expand the playtime of the game), Source games (where would garrysmod be without the Source SDK ?), Oblivion, Neverwinter Nights, and so on and so forth.
Just because it won't be used for consoles, their main market, they won't bother to make it.
How foolish.

liratheal · 10th Jul 2008, 12:59

IF the mod tools make it out shortly after the game (And I'm talking a month or two here) then they MIGHT get away with it.

Otherwise I can see this game earning more hate than love from the mod community.

TurtlePerson2 · 10th Jul 2008, 14:03

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Originally Posted by bowman

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Howard went on to explain that though he would love to see PC-made content made available on consoles, but that there are too many barriers on consoles which prevent this from becoming a possibility.

Oh, yeah, you would love marketing the user-made content by PC users for your console versions, and simultaneously take away one of the advantages the consoles haven't stolen already. I bet. I just bet.

What a bunch of console sellouts.

Oh come on. If consoles are able to have user developed content then there's no reason they shouldn't have it. Wishing malevolence on the console community isn't a good way to help the PC gaming community.

Personally I don't think that I've ever bought a game even thinking about the mods that will come later on. Those just help to extend the life of the game, which is something that console companies don't want. They want to sell you a game then sell you another soon because they lose money on the hardware and they need to make money on the software.

Veles · 10th Jul 2008, 14:18

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Originally Posted by Cobalt

Even the much acclaimed Morrowind needed a bit of love from the mod community.

Not really, yeah better heads/bodies was great when the game started to show it's age, but I thought that the core game was great, I never bothered putting any gameplay mods on there.

Lepermessiah · 10th Jul 2008, 15:58

Sigh, Bethesda keep distancing from the PC community mroe and more. They keep making Fallout 3 look like it will be a disaster and this does not help.

Timmy_the_tortoise · 10th Jul 2008, 16:10

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Originally Posted by Lepermessiah

Sigh, Bethesda keep distancing from the PC community mroe and more. They keep making Fallout 3 look like it will be a disaster and this does not help.

All the better a situation in which to come out with an absolute CORKER of a game.

Zurechial · 10th Jul 2008, 17:48

Epic fail.

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g3n3tiX Resident frenchie Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: localhost Posts: 589	They just shot themselves in the foot. Most of quite successful games have user created content, which was made because the tools were easily available : half life, Morrowind (great stuff to expand the playtime of the game), Source games (where would garrysmod be without the Source SDK ?), Oblivion, Neverwinter Nights, and so on and so forth. Just because it won't be used for consoles, their main market, they won't bother to make it. How foolish. __________________ I also have a MTBF.

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Cobalt Multimodder Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Surrey, UK Posts: 248	Bethesda games practically require mod tools. They don't seem to be able to make them quite right by themselves. Even the much acclaimed Morrowind needed a bit of love from the mod community. Oblivion is barely worth playing at all without one or other of the major overhauls (or all of them for those using FCOM).

10th Jul 2008, 15:58	#8
Lepermessiah Banned Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 566	Sigh, Bethesda keep distancing from the PC community mroe and more. They keep making Fallout 3 look like it will be a disaster and this does not help.