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Bindibadgi · 23rd Jul 2008, 08:07

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/200...-li-pc-x2000/1

We take a look at the new HTPC and high end gaming case from the Taiwanese case supremo, Lian Li. With an entirely unique case layout and design, and sporting some impressive cooling ability, it is indeed both high and mighty?

zr_ox · 23rd Jul 2008, 08:54

Very nice review.

It's a truly inspired design with a few short falls. Given that it's a Lian Li case it saddens me to hear to issues like rattling side panels, no anti-vibration hd mounting and 80mm fan's, and "a fan controller where"?. None of these issues have been present in Lian Li cases for some time, given the cost I certainly expect much better.

It was on my short list for a quiet slightly unassuming case (not sure that really applies), however I think I will go for the 2110 instead.

Shame really because a significant amount of innovation has gone into this case, I hope that Lian Li can use your review to further perfect a great entry to the HTPC case line-up.

mrb_no1 · 23rd Jul 2008, 09:37

nice case....but i cant help but feel that bit-tech go out of their way to find small flaws when reviewing lian li over any other case they might look at, that might just be my tainted perception as i am a lian li fan boy.

overall i like the case, but i agree with bit-tech's scepticism in the cases ability to 'fit' in with existing furniture and flaw standing speakers....

peace

fatman

BlackMage23 · 23rd Jul 2008, 09:42

why on a nice high end case are the fan cables not sleeved?
also, when are case manufactures going to stop using beige cables for the front port connectors and use black ones?

phuzz · 23rd Jul 2008, 09:54

cor! It's a bit of a stunner isn't it? I'm slightly worried by the distance from the PSU to the hraddrives, plus is there enough room to install a radiator in the front?
But the main reason I'm not running off to find a supplier right away is:
£200!
bloody hell, that's enough to buy a mini laptop.
but still...

zr_ox · 23rd Jul 2008, 09:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrb_no1

nice case....but i cant help but feel that bit-tech go out of their way to find small flaws when reviewing lian li over any other case they might look at, that might just be my tainted perception as i am a lian li fan boy.

It's their job to be objective, can you imagine the nightmare we would all have if we had to depend on reviews from fanboy's. There are way to many sites already that would not know what the word objective means even if it smacked them in the mouth!. BT are about the only ones left giving a true representation of a products value and worth.

Before I found BT god only knows how many PC related item's I bought based on site reviews, only to find a vastly different product than they described.......*cough*Madshrimps*cough

wuyanxu · 23rd Jul 2008, 10:02

what's that mesh on top of the PSU for?

the design seems to make the mobo compartment always have a +ve pressure. im pretty sure -ve pressure produces better cooling.....

naokaji · 23rd Jul 2008, 10:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by phuzz

plus is there enough room to install a radiator in the front?

you cant have a rad in the front, the holes are for 140mm fans, not 120mm.

CrixD · 23rd Jul 2008, 10:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by naokaji

you cant have a rad in the front, the holes are for 140mm fans, not 120mm.

Actually, there is existing a rad for 140mm

HWLabs has produced a 420, 280, and a 140 Rad

But about that the holes are correct and etc. I do not know about.

CardJoe · 23rd Jul 2008, 10:33

YOINK!

_DTM2000_ · 23rd Jul 2008, 10:41

Although I like a lot of things about this case, I really can't see it as a suitable HTPC case. It's just too tall and imposing. To me HTPC cases should either blend in with/complement your other Hi-Fi gear etc or be easy to keep out of sight. This is neither of those, not even close. I have large floor standing front speakers and this would look silly next to them, as though it was some tall metal sub woofer or something. The side access drive bays wouldn't work at all for me either. My HTPC is slotted in the gap between my Hi-Fi rack an a wall, where it blends in and is out of the way. I've got no hope of accessing the sides in a hurry. I can see this being an issue for many people wanting to use it as an HTPC case.

On top of all that, it's extremely expensive and doesn't seem to be finished to Lian Li's usual high standards.
It's got some nice plus points but far too many minus points for me.

Jokkocze · 23rd Jul 2008, 11:04

I dont really like that LL has stopped making discrete and stylish cases, to make ugly pieces of aluminium like this. I miss the old ones :/

Baz · 23rd Jul 2008, 11:11

Personally, i think that HTPCs shouldn't be seen or heard - they should hide beneath your TV along with the Xbox and 5.1 amp. Just to answer some quick questions...

Nope you can't mount a radiator in the front without some modification.
The mesh section above the PSU is for nothing - there are no screw mounts, or rails supporting a radiator or extra PSU - it's dead space.

We're objective as we can be here at bit-tech. We know there's a lot choice in the case market, so have to be thorough when looking at cases. For the price premium, we expect the best, and whilst the PC-X2000 delivered in some areas (it is beautiful and a stonking performer), you don't expect so many minor design oversights in a high end case.

Nexxo · 23rd Jul 2008, 12:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrixD

Actually, there is existing a rad for 140mm

HWLabs has produced a 420, 280, and a 140 Rad

But about that the holes are correct and etc. I do not know about.

They are, for 140mm fans. What is not correct, unfortunately, is their width: 153mm. Thus making them just 3mm too wide to fit in a 5.25" bay area.

Mankz · 23rd Jul 2008, 12:02

Want.

m0o0oeh · 23rd Jul 2008, 12:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mankz.

Want.

What he said

Xir · 23rd Jul 2008, 12:38

...I was looking for the mentioned HTPC case in this article....until i realized you meant this huge thing!

Tile · 23rd Jul 2008, 12:47

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TheCherub · 23rd Jul 2008, 14:00

Saw this case up on the Lian Li site about 2 weeks ago and have been drooling ever since, I think it looks fantastic.

Anyone want to buy a TJ-09?

TGImages · 23rd Jul 2008, 14:00

Mirroring some of the other comments here, I have to agree that this is not a HTPC case based on size and appearance.

The noise (or lack of) factor is important and from that point of view this would be a good HTPC case... now if they can take the silent running and incorporate it into a case that looks like other HT components and is similarily sized then I would expect they would have a winner.

23rd Jul 2008, 08:07	#1
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23rd Jul 2008, 08:54	#2
zr_ox Whooolapoook Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Stalking Orco Posts: 1,117	Very nice review. It's a truly inspired design with a few short falls. Given that it's a Lian Li case it saddens me to hear to issues like rattling side panels, no anti-vibration hd mounting and 80mm fan's, and "a fan controller where"?. None of these issues have been present in Lian Li cases for some time, given the cost I certainly expect much better. It was on my short list for a quiet slightly unassuming case (not sure that really applies), however I think I will go for the 2110 instead. Shame really because a significant amount of innovation has gone into this case, I hope that Lian Li can use your review to further perfect a great entry to the HTPC case line-up. __________________ 0ptimizm :PC under review

23rd Jul 2008, 09:37	#3
mrb_no1 Pie Eater Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Pyrford, England Posts: 365	nice case....but i cant help but feel that bit-tech go out of their way to find small flaws when reviewing lian li over any other case they might look at, that might just be my tainted perception as i am a lian li fan boy. overall i like the case, but i agree with bit-tech's scepticism in the cases ability to 'fit' in with existing furniture and flaw standing speakers.... peace fatman __________________ Core 2 Quad Q6600 @ 3600Mhz ¦ Asus Maximus II Formula ¦ ATI Radeon 4890 (1000Mhz Core + 1200Mhz Mem OC) ¦ 2x2G Corsair Dom. PC 8500 @ 1080Mhz ¦ Aquacomputer WC ¦ Creative X-Fi Fatal1ty ¦ 150G Raptor, 2x1500 + 1x750 + 2x500 Seagate (SATA2) ¦ Pioneer DVD burner ¦ Lian Li - PC 73SL Aluminium Silent Server Case ¦ Dell 2007WFP 20" Widescreen ¦ Logitech Z-5500 5.1 Speakers ¦ Sennheiser HD270

23rd Jul 2008, 09:42	#4
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phuzz Hypermodder Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bristol, UK Posts: 955	cor! It's a bit of a stunner isn't it? I'm slightly worried by the distance from the PSU to the hraddrives, plus is there enough room to install a radiator in the front? But the main reason I'm not running off to find a supplier right away is: £200! bloody hell, that's enough to buy a mini laptop. but still...

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23rd Jul 2008, 10:41	#11
_DTM2000_ Senior Super Douche Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Sheffield, UK Posts: 229	Although I like a lot of things about this case, I really can't see it as a suitable HTPC case. It's just too tall and imposing. To me HTPC cases should either blend in with/complement your other Hi-Fi gear etc or be easy to keep out of sight. This is neither of those, not even close. I have large floor standing front speakers and this would look silly next to them, as though it was some tall metal sub woofer or something. The side access drive bays wouldn't work at all for me either. My HTPC is slotted in the gap between my Hi-Fi rack an a wall, where it blends in and is out of the way. I've got no hope of accessing the sides in a hurry. I can see this being an issue for many people wanting to use it as an HTPC case. On top of all that, it's extremely expensive and doesn't seem to be finished to Lian Li's usual high standards. It's got some nice plus points but far too many minus points for me.

23rd Jul 2008, 11:04	#12
Jokkocze Hypermodder Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 815	I dont really like that LL has stopped making discrete and stylish cases, to make ugly pieces of aluminium like this. I miss the old ones :/ __________________ Main rig: Intel C2D E8400 @ 3.91ghz \| 6GB Corsair Dominator \| EVGA GTX 280 SSC \| ASUS P5E \| 1x150gb Raptor & 3tb storage \| 550w Corsair PSU \| 2x Samsung T220 HTPC: Intel C2D E8400 \| 2GB Corsair XMS \| XFX 8800GT 512mb (Passive) \| ASUS P5Q-VM \| 4x1.5TB \| 550w Corsair PSU \| Sony 46V4500

23rd Jul 2008, 11:11	#13
Baz Benchmarketeer bit-tech Staff Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Ruislip Posts: 588	Personally, i think that HTPCs shouldn't be seen or heard - they should hide beneath your TV along with the Xbox and 5.1 amp. Just to answer some quick questions... Nope you can't mount a radiator in the front without some modification. The mesh section above the PSU is for nothing - there are no screw mounts, or rails supporting a radiator or extra PSU - it's dead space. We're objective as we can be here at bit-tech. We know there's a lot choice in the case market, so have to be thorough when looking at cases. For the price premium, we expect the best, and whilst the PC-X2000 delivered in some areas (it is beautiful and a stonking performer), you don't expect so many minor design oversights in a high end case.

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Xir Supermodder Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 529	...I was looking for the mentioned HTPC case in this article....until i realized you meant this huge thing! __________________ SN25P A64 3700+ (San Diego) 2 GB DDR400 OCZ Platinum EL 2-3-2-5 1T X1800XT 512mb Sapphire 200GB Samsung SP2004C

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23rd Jul 2008, 14:00	#19
TheCherub Supermodder Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 375	Saw this case up on the Lian Li site about 2 weeks ago and have been drooling ever since, I think it looks fantastic. Anyone want to buy a TJ-09?

23rd Jul 2008, 14:00	#20
TGImages Grandpa Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Illinois, US Posts: 160	Mirroring some of the other comments here, I have to agree that this is not a HTPC case based on size and appearance. The noise (or lack of) factor is important and from that point of view this would be a good HTPC case... now if they can take the silent running and incorporate it into a case that looks like other HT components and is similarily sized then I would expect they would have a winner.