Microsoft announces DirectX 11 at GameFest - bit-tech.net Forums

CardJoe · 23rd Jul 2008, 11:15

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2008/07...-at-gamefest/1

Microsoft has unveiled DirectX 11, its next-generation graphics pipeline, at the annual XNA GameFest developer conference in Seattle.

BlackMage23 · 23rd Jul 2008, 11:24

I didn't think this was comming out until windows 7 was ready

M4RTIN · 23rd Jul 2008, 11:40

sounds like it should just be called DX10.5 if its not a massive change

Flibblebot · 23rd Jul 2008, 11:41

Well, since it took a long time before there were any (affordable) DX10 cards available, it's probably going to be 2010 before we see any DX11 capable hardware.

I'm certainly not going to hold my breath for that long.

Kúsař · 23rd Jul 2008, 11:58

If D3D11 was able to utilize multiple GPU's without specific driver support then it would be really big step ahead.

bowman · 23rd Jul 2008, 12:02

'I didn't think this was comming out until windows 7 was ready'

It's not but it's announced now, doesn't mean it's coming next week.

Tim S · 23rd Jul 2008, 12:27

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Originally Posted by M4RTIN

sounds like it should just be called DX10.5 if its not a massive change

It's quite a big change... Tessellation and Compute Shaders (especially the latter) are Good Steps Forward.

chicorasia · 23rd Jul 2008, 13:31

So... what will be the next move by intel?

Will it claim that Larrabee will support DX11? Or that Larrabee will render DX11 obsolete?

XD

Tim S · 23rd Jul 2008, 13:39

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Originally Posted by chicorasia

So... what will be the next move by intel?

Will it claim that Larrabee will support DX11? Or that Larrabee will render DX11 obsolete?

XD

Larrabee will support DirectX and OpenGL on some level and since DX10 it's been an all or nothing thing, so I'd imagine it'll have full compliance with whatever the latest DX version is when it's released (that's looking like DX11 FWIW).

p3ri0d · 23rd Jul 2008, 14:15

Don't know what to think on that one :S

Well, i guess we should just wait and see?

Omnituens · 23rd Jul 2008, 15:20

**** you vista.

p3n · 23rd Jul 2008, 16:31

M$ should really concede apple are better at OS and get it wokring with OSX - rejoice etc

Flibblebot · 23rd Jul 2008, 16:52

Well, thanks for the insightful comments, chaps.

Back on topic, could Compute Shaders make it easier to use the GPU for non-graphical tasks - like physics or folding at home? It certainly seems that way from the article.

wuyanxu · 23rd Jul 2008, 17:07

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Originally Posted by Flibblebot

Well, thanks for the insightful comments, chaps.

Back on topic, could Compute Shaders make it easier to use the GPU for non-graphical tasks - like physics or folding at home? It certainly seems that way from the article.

yes, seems like MS is stepping up to standarise this GP-GPU business

TreeDude · 23rd Jul 2008, 18:15

Geez. DX11 already? Things are moving way too fast for me. Well, too fast for my wallet I should say.

Tim S · 23rd Jul 2008, 20:17

@Flibblebot, nah it's for graphics tasks and will give developers more freedom when it comes to implementing certain effects :-)

p3ri0d · 24th Jul 2008, 00:22

Well, I heard it's possible to make computer faster at certain tasks with CUDA supported GPU's from nVidia. Like password cracking

Zurechial · 24th Jul 2008, 01:39

I suspect that DX11 will receive a warmer reception than DX10 for two reasons..

Firstly, by the time DX11 is out, the takeup of Vista will probably be much higher than it was at the release of DX10.
Secondly, the differences between DX10 and DX11 should be *much* more apparent to the end-user than those between DX9 and DX10.
A side-by-side comparison of some in-game geometry with and without Tesselation will probably do the trick, there..

DX10 just wasn't enough to sway most of us to adopting a performance deficit by switching to Vista on our current hardware, but I think it'll be a much tougher call to make with DX11.
Even if we don't all switch over to Vista entirely, there will surely be a lot more people dual-booting XP/Vista at the least.

mrdoogso · 24th Jul 2008, 10:44

Please advise: I'm in the market for a new graphics card.. if i buy one now (AMD or Nividia) will i need to upgrade again when DX11 arrives, or will the cards be updated by means of a driver update?

I'm a noob - so maybe that isn't even possible... any ideas?

23rd Jul 2008, 11:15	#1
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Flibblebot Free from artificial flavourings Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Right here, right now Posts: 2,232	Well, thanks for the insightful comments, chaps. Back on topic, could Compute Shaders make it easier to use the GPU for non-graphical tasks - like physics or folding at home? It certainly seems that way from the article. __________________ My uber-system: 66Mhz 486DX2, 8Mb RAM, 20Mb hard drive, 256 colour VGA adaptor (goes all the way up to 800x600!), keyboard AND serial mouse

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M4RTIN Ultramodder Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Birmingham, UK Posts: 1,257	sounds like it should just be called DX10.5 if its not a massive change

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Kúsař regular bit-tech reader Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Brnicko, CZ Posts: 221	If D3D11 was able to utilize multiple GPU's without specific driver support then it would be really big step ahead.

23rd Jul 2008, 12:02	#6
bowman Multimodder Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 249	'I didn't think this was comming out until windows 7 was ready' It's not but it's announced now, doesn't mean it's coming next week.

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chicorasia Multimodder Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 84	So... what will be the next move by intel? Will it claim that Larrabee will support DX11? Or that Larrabee will render DX11 obsolete? XD

23rd Jul 2008, 14:15	#10
p3ri0d Multimodder Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 245	Don't know what to think on that one :S Well, i guess we should just wait and see?

23rd Jul 2008, 16:31	#12
p3n Hypermodder Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 736	M$ should really concede apple are better at OS and get it wokring with OSX - rejoice etc

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TreeDude Multimodder Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 239	Geez. DX11 already? Things are moving way too fast for me. Well, too fast for my wallet I should say.

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24th Jul 2008, 00:22	#17
p3ri0d Multimodder Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 245	Well, I heard it's possible to make computer faster at certain tasks with CUDA supported GPU's from nVidia. Like password cracking

24th Jul 2008, 01:39	#18
Zurechial Elitist Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ireland Posts: 885	I suspect that DX11 will receive a warmer reception than DX10 for two reasons.. Firstly, by the time DX11 is out, the takeup of Vista will probably be much higher than it was at the release of DX10. Secondly, the differences between DX10 and DX11 should be much more apparent to the end-user than those between DX9 and DX10. A side-by-side comparison of some in-game geometry with and without Tesselation will probably do the trick, there.. DX10 just wasn't enough to sway most of us to adopting a performance deficit by switching to Vista on our current hardware, but I think it'll be a much tougher call to make with DX11. Even if we don't all switch over to Vista entirely, there will surely be a lot more people dual-booting XP/Vista at the least. __________________ www.valyr.net Core i7 920 @ 4GHz <-> 8800GTS 512 @ 785/1946/1990 <-> GA-EX58-UD5 <-> 3GB Dominator 1600 <-> Xonar D1

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mrdoogso What's a Dremel? Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Southfields, London Posts: 16	Please advise: I'm in the market for a new graphics card.. if i buy one now (AMD or Nividia) will i need to upgrade again when DX11 arrives, or will the cards be updated by means of a driver update? I'm a noob - so maybe that isn't even possible... any ideas?