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CardJoe · 8th Sep 2008, 10:12

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2008/09...-high-scores/1

Will Wright set out to make Spore as casual as possible apparently, preferring high volume of sales to critical acclaim.

liratheal · 8th Sep 2008, 10:20

When it comes to Spore, I spent most of my saturday afternoon playing it, I'd consider myself more towards the 'hardcore' end of the gamer scale. A friend of mine came over on saturday night, and spent most of the time playing it - He picks up a game when he's at mine, or when there is nothing (Up to, and including, sitting on the toilet) else to do. I'd say the game succeeds in that sense.

It frustrated me when I got to the space exploration stage, as there was no ****ing save option thanks to the endless ****ing tutorials that told you crap you had already worked out if you have more than half a brain cell.

The Spore forums made up for that, though, with the hundreds of people whining and screaming "omg keygens have given out our legal keys?!Oneoneone11eleven". Never laughed so hard in my life. Good ol' forums.

LeMaltor · 8th Sep 2008, 10:32

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Originally Posted by CardJoe

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2008/09...-high-scores/1

Will Wright set out to make Spore as casual as possible apparently, preferring more money from high sales to bothering to produce something worthy of critical acclaim.

Fixed

pimlicosound · 8th Sep 2008, 10:41

There's no way Psychonauts failed because it was too "hardcore"! Presumably it just didn't have the right marketing push, magazines/websites didn't give it front page news splashes and games stores didn't put copies on their main display shelves. Just a string of unfortunate coincidences. It had everything in it to make it popular and successful with all types of gamers.

UrbanMarine · 8th Sep 2008, 12:46

Yeah, it's a casual game alright.

crompers · 8th Sep 2008, 12:58

The Sims = Marriage designer for scary often overweight 15 year old girls

Half-Life = A game that will be remembered, discussed and compared amongst gamers (i.e. people who actually care about games) for many years to come.

I know which I would rather have designed, irrespective of profit margins.

impar · 8th Sep 2008, 13:11

Greetings!

"Will Wright prefers high sales to high scores"

Guess he wont be happy with Amazon.com customers reviews:

Link:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000FKBCX4

hodgy100 · 8th Sep 2008, 14:19

^^ XD ^^

Bauul · 8th Sep 2008, 14:34

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Originally Posted by impar

Greetings!

"Will Wright prefers high sales to high scores"

Guess he wont be happy with Amazon.com customers reviews:

Link:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000FKBCX4

Ah that's harsh. For someone like me who doesn't care about DRM (really, I don't, I'm so bored with people going on and on about it I no longer care either way) none of the reviews are remotely accurate.

The Jambo · 8th Sep 2008, 15:43

Maybe I should tell him that he lost my money, because of the DRM. I was going to buy it, then went and pirated it.

I would easily take >3 installations over online function.

Mongoose132 · 8th Sep 2008, 16:28

It's not very fun anyway, I've just returned my copy, It's not what I'd define as a 'Game', more of a sim, but an incredibly dumbed down quasi-world/creation sim, overly simple, limited by the DRM that turns it into a rental, essentially, as when EA takes servers offline, £40 paperwieght,

Just don't bother

Jordan Wise · 8th Sep 2008, 17:39

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Originally Posted by The Jambo

Maybe I should tell him that he lost my money, because of the DRM. I was going to buy it, then went and pirated it.

I would easily take >3 installations over online function.

You're an arse.

CardJoe · 8th Sep 2008, 18:17

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Originally Posted by The Jambo

Maybe I should tell him that he lost my money, because of the DRM. I was going to buy it, then went and pirated it.

I would easily take >3 installations over online function.

Echoing: You're an arse.

I don't like the fact that Tim's TV is so shiny - and I wouldn't buy it for that reason. That doesn't give me the right to steal it however.

Krazeh · 8th Sep 2008, 18:40

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Originally Posted by CardJoe

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Jambo

Maybe I should tell him that he lost my money, because of the DRM. I was going to buy it, then went and pirated it.

I would easily take >3 installations over online function.

Echoing: You're an arse.

I don't like the fact that Tim's TV is so shiny - and I wouldn't buy it for that reason. That doesn't give me the right to steal it however.

While I don't agree with the OP's decision to pirate Spore can we please stop with the stealing analogies?? Copyright infringement does not equal theft.

LeMaltor · 8th Sep 2008, 19:47

Yeah stop stealing ones and zeros Jambo.

supaste · 8th Sep 2008, 19:50

Wow no way I'll be buying this as I like to clean up my computer every now and again when I havn't played a game in a while.

crompers · 8th Sep 2008, 19:52

DRM DRM DRM, how yawnworthy

Stickeh · 8th Sep 2008, 19:55

Wow, all the reviews on Amazon are regarding the DRM, so can hardly be a legitimate review if a reviewer hasn't bought the game and actually played it, just gave it a one start and complained about the DRM....

I can understand Will's reasoning for more casual-ness and more profits than a crazy amazing game, it just won't be as memorable as half life, but he'll have more money? So what? More people playing the game cant necessarily be a bad thing....

supaste · 8th Sep 2008, 20:06

This is a subject that i get very iffy about. I like to have my rights, I'm in the same mildly pissed off state as when i heard the UK version about Fallout 3 could have censorship influenced by Australian board of censorship.

CardJoe · 9th Sep 2008, 08:50

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Originally Posted by Krazeh

While I don't agree with the OP's decision to pirate Spore can we please stop with the stealing analogies?? Copyright infringement does not equal theft.

Explain how it's different then without resorting to the flimsy "It doesn't equal a lost sale" arguements.

A team of people has elected to make something over a period of years.
To protect that creation they have added DRM.
You don't agree with DRM, so you decide you won't buy it.

All well and good until you add onto the end the bit where you illegally download the creation without paying for it on the basis that you don't agree with DRM.

8th Sep 2008, 10:12	#1
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liratheal Just got a great book on tape Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: High Wycombe, UK Posts: 3,633	When it comes to Spore, I spent most of my saturday afternoon playing it, I'd consider myself more towards the 'hardcore' end of the gamer scale. A friend of mine came over on saturday night, and spent most of the time playing it - He picks up a game when he's at mine, or when there is nothing (Up to, and including, sitting on the toilet) else to do. I'd say the game succeeds in that sense. It frustrated me when I got to the space exploration stage, as there was no **ing save option thanks to the endless **ing tutorials that told you crap you had already worked out if you have more than half a brain cell. The Spore forums made up for that, though, with the hundreds of people whining and screaming "omg keygens have given out our legal keys?!Oneoneone11eleven". Never laughed so hard in my life. Good ol' forums. __________________ Gigabyte MA790FX, X4 9950 Black Edition, 8gb Geil Black Dragon, 2x4870 512mb, Antec TruePower Quattro 850w I game, Do you?

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Stickeh Help me , Help you. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Nottingham Posts: 2,574	Wow, all the reviews on Amazon are regarding the DRM, so can hardly be a legitimate review if a reviewer hasn't bought the game and actually played it, just gave it a one start and complained about the DRM.... I can understand Will's reasoning for more casual-ness and more profits than a crazy amazing game, it just won't be as memorable as half life, but he'll have more money? So what? More people playing the game cant necessarily be a bad thing.... __________________ Guns don't kill people, kids who play videogames kill people.

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supaste Minimodder Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Teesside, UK Posts: 48	This is a subject that i get very iffy about. I like to have my rights, I'm in the same mildly pissed off state as when i heard the UK version about Fallout 3 could have censorship influenced by Australian board of censorship.