CD Projekt: Publishers are scared to go DRM-free - bit-tech.net Forums

CardJoe · 22nd Sep 2008, 10:15

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2008/09...-go-drm-free/1

CD Projekt, the publisher behind The Witcher, reckons that many other large publishers are too scared to stop using DRM.

Bladestorm · 22nd Sep 2008, 10:44

Good for them

. And GOG is awesome, though worrying me slightly right now as even though I was in the early access and bought some games, I don't seem able to get anything but the teaser page right at this moment.

proxess · 22nd Sep 2008, 10:48

Makes me feel like I want to buy it... just for them being so cool about piracy!

Dreaming · 22nd Sep 2008, 10:52

Have to agree with them and also agree with proxess - it makes you want to throw money their way for having the right attitude in that piracy can't be controlled directly you can only control the demand for your game.

impar · 22nd Sep 2008, 11:09

Greetings!

Advanced DRM schemes, like the one being used by EA, get an immediate no-buy tag in my list.
May get the games when they are released at 9,99€, though.

mmorgue · 22nd Sep 2008, 11:19

Good God, someone with decent, logical and real-world approach to the problem.

+1 to proxess and Dreaming; I too would pay for the game 100% just because they have the correct attitude.

What I like is that they aren't "giving in" to piracy as they fully acknowledge what none of the major media labels will -- piracy exists and it always will. The only way to reduce the effect is to perhaps change the minds of people who would otherwise buy the media if it didn't have ridiculous, draconian means of enforcing copyrights.

Instead, they want to entice the consumer with, <shock>, quality and content.

Kúsař · 22nd Sep 2008, 11:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dreaming

Have to agree with them and also agree with proxess - it makes you want to throw money their way for having the right attitude in that piracy can't be controlled directly you can only control the demand for your game.

Exactly! I'm playing Oblivion - no DRM, no copy protection. I even bought it for a high price(collector's edition) - because I love this game. And they treat me like a honest gamer! Now that makes me want to donate money to them! Happy customer...

I've got some experience with CD Projekt - they sell some games in my country - although they charge a lot of money for end users, their offers via stores are much better(Doom3 + RoE for 20$ last year). Some of their offers makes piracy the "uncomfortable" way of obtaining games. Probably the best way to fight the piracy...

Impar, thanks on update on Crysis copy protection. Now that I know it doesn't require inet connection...well, EA made themselves reputation with DRM in their latest games...

DXR_13KE · 22nd Sep 2008, 11:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by impar

Greetings!

Advanced DRM schemes, like the one being used by EA, get an immediate no-buy tag in my list.
May get the games when they are released at 9,99€, though.

more like 6.90€, considering the current exchange rate.

edit: these guys are fu**ing awesome!!!! i will buy some games from them, especially MDK.

edit: i hope they make game packs with several games that sell for a discount.

[USRF]Obiwan · 22nd Sep 2008, 11:47

Did I see MDK on the GOG site? thats kewl!

I love their thinking of DRMFREE: You won't find any intrusive copy protection in our games; we hate draconian DRM schemes just as much as you do, so at GOG.com you don't just buy the game, you actually own it. Once you download a game, you can install it on any PC and even re-download it whenever you want, as many times as you need, and you can play it without an internet connection.

Wow I actually OWN the game instead of "The right to lend it' ..

Zurechial · 22nd Sep 2008, 13:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladestorm

Good for them

. And GOG is awesome, though worrying me slightly right now as even though I was in the early access and bought some games, I don't seem able to get anything but the teaser page right at this moment.

They don't make it very clear how to get back into the site for the beta users, but you just need to work around the teaser page and log in with your beta account.

http://www.gog.com/en/catalogue/

That URL should get you to the Beta catalogue, where you can log in and buy/download the games.

GOG is awesome in every regard from my usage of it so far, the only thing it needs is a bigger catalogue of games, but it's steadily growing as they're adding a couple of games each week.
The Baldur's Gate series and Planescape Torment are high on the wishlists of most of the GOG users on the forums, and since GOG is already partnered with Interplay, it looks promising..
I already have my original hard-copies of the BG series and PST kept safely in a place of pride on my shelf, but it'll be nice to see those games introduced to some new gamers. It might remind people how good cRPGs used to be..
On top of that, though, GOG put a bit of effort into making older games compatible with XP and Vista, so hopefully they might be able to clean up some of PST's glitchiness in XP and its problems with newer graphics hardware.

CD Projekt and GOG cheesecake.

[USRF]Obiwan · 22nd Sep 2008, 14:56

What impressed me most is that they make the old games compatible with the new operating systems. I have a shipload of old games on the shelf that do not work since XP or now with Vista. If it is out of the beta program I will absolutely look around searching for my own classics!

E.E.L. Ambiense · 22nd Sep 2008, 15:32

Total respect to them for this. I like it when they use their brains!

Sleepstreamer · 22nd Sep 2008, 15:59

Think I'm gonna go buy some games off GOG...

pendragon · 22nd Sep 2008, 18:02

this makes me glad I plunked down the cash for The Witcher

..... (which is a terriffic game, I might add)

supaste · 22nd Sep 2008, 19:20

As brilliant as this is some people may have trouble chooseing to use it - hear me out lol

I use steam at the moment for buying games online and i have my own catalog of games within it. If i was to start buying games off gog (which i may well do) it would add another password to remember. My point being that people may have a hard time changing their ways, alot of people are loyal to steam.

Jojii · 22nd Sep 2008, 19:34

when people start recieving bills at thier homes after they download off a p2p, then piracy will stop.

Spaceraver · 23rd Sep 2008, 07:22

I will support them over EA any day.
I remember playing Red Alert with a friend over lan using the same set of CD's. If they implement that in a game im in. They could set a limit of four players for x amount of days for example. Those were the days.

Bladestorm · 23rd Sep 2008, 12:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zurechial

They don't make it very clear how to get back into the site for the beta users, but you just need to work around the teaser page and log in with your beta account.

http://www.gog.com/en/catalogue/

That URL should get you to the Beta catalogue, where you can log in and buy/download the games.

GOG is awesome in every regard from my usage of it so far, the only thing it needs is a bigger catalogue of games, but it's steadily growing as they're adding a couple of games each week.
The Baldur's Gate series and Planescape Torment are high on the wishlists of most of the GOG users on the forums, and since GOG is already partnered with Interplay, it looks promising..
I already have my original hard-copies of the BG series and PST kept safely in a place of pride on my shelf, but it'll be nice to see those games introduced to some new gamers. It might remind people how good cRPGs used to be..
On top of that, though, GOG put a bit of effort into making older games compatible with XP and Vista, so hopefully they might be able to clean up some of PST's glitchiness in XP and its problems with newer graphics hardware.

CD Projekt and GOG cheesecake.

That link is redirecting to the teaser page for me also though.

22nd Sep 2008, 10:15	#1
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22nd Sep 2008, 10:44	#2
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22nd Sep 2008, 10:48	#3
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22nd Sep 2008, 10:52	#4
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22nd Sep 2008, 11:09	#5
impar 2n-1 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Portugal Posts: 844	Greetings! Advanced DRM schemes, like the one being used by EA, get an immediate no-buy tag in my list. May get the games when they are released at 9,99€, though. __________________ The recruitment of Militia is illegal. Militia-recruiters will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the applicable laws.

22nd Sep 2008, 11:19	#6
mmorgue Supermodder Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Mos Eisley, in the bar... Posts: 378	Good God, someone with decent, logical and real-world approach to the problem. +1 to proxess and Dreaming; I too would pay for the game 100% just because they have the correct attitude. What I like is that they aren't "giving in" to piracy as they fully acknowledge what none of the major media labels will -- piracy exists and it always will. The only way to reduce the effect is to perhaps change the minds of people who would otherwise buy the media if it didn't have ridiculous, draconian means of enforcing copyrights. Instead, they want to entice the consumer with, <shock>, quality and content.

22nd Sep 2008, 11:47	#9
[USRF]Obiwan Ultramodder Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,220	Did I see MDK on the GOG site? thats kewl! I love their thinking of DRMFREE: You won't find any intrusive copy protection in our games; we hate draconian DRM schemes just as much as you do, so at GOG.com you don't just buy the game, you actually own it. Once you download a game, you can install it on any PC and even re-download it whenever you want, as many times as you need, and you can play it without an internet connection. Wow I actually OWN the game instead of "The right to lend it' .. __________________ Mascleta: "The most accurate simulation of thunder, humans can simulate..." The answer is 42, so... whats the question again? If you know what 'Peek' and 'Poke' represents, then you are probably as old as me.

22nd Sep 2008, 14:56	#11
[USRF]Obiwan Ultramodder Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,220	What impressed me most is that they make the old games compatible with the new operating systems. I have a shipload of old games on the shelf that do not work since XP or now with Vista. If it is out of the beta program I will absolutely look around searching for my own classics! __________________ Mascleta: "The most accurate simulation of thunder, humans can simulate..." The answer is 42, so... whats the question again? If you know what 'Peek' and 'Poke' represents, then you are probably as old as me.

22nd Sep 2008, 15:32	#12
E.E.L. Ambiense Acrylic Heretic Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Malabar, FL Posts: 2,729	Total respect to them for this. I like it when they use their brains! __________________ Latest Builds: "Movie Sign!" • CheckMate - MotM May '09 ~~Nominee~~ Loser! • BluBawx I • Lumière Noire - MotM Apr. '08 ~~Nominee~~ Loser! • Razzle Dazzle • CMC Field Server • "Building Better Worlds" - MotM Feb. '08 ~~Nominee~~ Loser! • Biohazard • MicroSuperFly

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Sleepstreamer Big McLargehuge Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sweden Posts: 281	Think I'm gonna go buy some games off GOG... __________________ "Computer games don't affect kids, I mean if PacMan affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching pills and listening to repetitive music." - Kristian Wilson, Nintendo 1989 FSP - AC Ryan - Matrix Orbital - ASUS - G.Skill

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22nd Sep 2008, 19:20	#15
supaste Minimodder Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Teesside, UK Posts: 48	As brilliant as this is some people may have trouble chooseing to use it - hear me out lol I use steam at the moment for buying games online and i have my own catalog of games within it. If i was to start buying games off gog (which i may well do) it would add another password to remember. My point being that people may have a hard time changing their ways, alot of people are loyal to steam.

22nd Sep 2008, 19:34	#16
Jojii hardware freak Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Nevada, USA Posts: 121	when people start recieving bills at thier homes after they download off a p2p, then piracy will stop.

23rd Sep 2008, 07:22	#17
Spaceraver Weekend Junkie Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kolding, Denmark Posts: 1,307	I will support them over EA any day. I remember playing Red Alert with a friend over lan using the same set of CD's. If they implement that in a game im in. They could set a limit of four players for x amount of days for example. Those were the days. __________________ "Faith: not wanting to know what is true." - Friedrich Nietzsche. "Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful." - Seneca Last thing I remember, I was drinking this glowing green sht out of a test tube and dancing like a bstard.