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Da Dego · 23rd Sep 2008, 02:59

Memories, Black and Blue

Taken from the Vietnam War Memorial called "The Wall", a man kneels to the name and memory of one of the first fallen.

outlawaol · 23rd Sep 2008, 03:40

Very nice mate.

I would personally say that if he was alone it would have had a greater effect, as all the others reflections are kinda drawing away.

akpoly · 23rd Sep 2008, 08:37

I personally feel it would have been much much stronger if the model was doing something with the wall (hand on wall, flowers, etc). Rather he's reading a piece of paper in front of this tragic reminder of war. Its just not as powerful for me. I don't feel a strong "blue" emotion coming from him.

Da Dego · 23rd Sep 2008, 14:05

Hey guys, thanks for the positive feedback so far.

@outlaw: Unfortunately, telling about 600 people to please clear the area was not about to happen

Besides, I found that afterward, I appreciated the contrast of some people just shuffling by compared to the quiet reflection of this particular guy. However, I agree that the reflections are kind of distracting, and I think I might soften them down a bit in future processing. I like their presence, but not their clarity.

@akpoly: I agree that could have made for a bit of a more poignant image. However, this wasn't a model - it's a raw capture of someone who I have no clue of and his personal moment there (The monument, if you've never been, is really quite powerful - if you have, though, you know what I mean). I look at the fact that his paper is actually in a protective leaf for a binder (and zoomed in, it is actually a short epitaph/bio of the soldier) and see a strong personal connection, despite the lack of contact - this is something that the guy has SAVED. So though I agree with the thought you're proposing in principle to lend an immediate heartstring pull, I would rather have an imperfect natural moment than a perfect but posed one out of this particular area - it seems more...respectful.

akpoly · 23rd Sep 2008, 16:40

I only called him a model because he is posing for your shot even if you didn't stage him. Don't know what else to call him, haha

OleJ · 27th Sep 2008, 11:30

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23rd Sep 2008, 02:59	#1
Da Dego Brett Thomas Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Cleveland, OH USA Posts: 3,906	[09/08] - Memories, Black and Blue Memories, Black and Blue Taken from the Vietnam War Memorial called "The Wall", a man kneels to the name and memory of one of the first fallen. __________________ "Frankly that seems overkill. iluvtrees2 arguing with spec is the intellectual equivalent of a bunny rabbit taking on a pissed-off lion." - Nexxo

23rd Sep 2008, 03:40	#2
outlawaol ▲Operational Hazard Sticker▲ Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Greenbay, WI Posts: 938	Very nice mate. I would personally say that if he was alone it would have had a greater effect, as all the others reflections are kinda drawing away. __________________ 40D\| 350D \| 24-105 f/4L \| 24-70 f/2.8 Sigma \| 50mm f/1.8 \| 75-300 f/4-5.6 Sigma \| 420ex Speedlight 365 Daily Photograph \| Smugmug

23rd Sep 2008, 08:37	#3
akpoly jobless architect Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: California Posts: 220	I personally feel it would have been much much stronger if the model was doing something with the wall (hand on wall, flowers, etc). Rather he's reading a piece of paper in front of this tragic reminder of war. Its just not as powerful for me. I don't feel a strong "blue" emotion coming from him. __________________ Nikon D300 \| Nikkor 17-55 f2.8 \| Nikkor 70-200 f2.8 VR \| Nikkor 18-200 VRII \| Nikon SB-600 \| Nikon MB-D10

23rd Sep 2008, 14:05	#4
Da Dego Brett Thomas Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Cleveland, OH USA Posts: 3,906	Hey guys, thanks for the positive feedback so far. @outlaw: Unfortunately, telling about 600 people to please clear the area was not about to happen Besides, I found that afterward, I appreciated the contrast of some people just shuffling by compared to the quiet reflection of this particular guy. However, I agree that the reflections are kind of distracting, and I think I might soften them down a bit in future processing. I like their presence, but not their clarity. @akpoly: I agree that could have made for a bit of a more poignant image. However, this wasn't a model - it's a raw capture of someone who I have no clue of and his personal moment there (The monument, if you've never been, is really quite powerful - if you have, though, you know what I mean). I look at the fact that his paper is actually in a protective leaf for a binder (and zoomed in, it is actually a short epitaph/bio of the soldier) and see a strong personal connection, despite the lack of contact - this is something that the guy has SAVED. So though I agree with the thought you're proposing in principle to lend an immediate heartstring pull, I would rather have an imperfect natural moment than a perfect but posed one out of this particular area - it seems more...respectful. __________________ "Frankly that seems overkill. iluvtrees2 arguing with spec is the intellectual equivalent of a bunny rabbit taking on a pissed-off lion." - Nexxo

23rd Sep 2008, 16:40	#5
akpoly jobless architect Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: California Posts: 220	I only called him a model because he is posing for your shot even if you didn't stage him. Don't know what else to call him, haha __________________ Nikon D300 \| Nikkor 17-55 f2.8 \| Nikkor 70-200 f2.8 VR \| Nikkor 18-200 VRII \| Nikon SB-600 \| Nikon MB-D10

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