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whisperwolf · 23rd Sep 2008, 11:31

I had been looking at something more music blues-ie to enter in to POTM but think I have photoshopped this pic too much to be entered. I'm going to have another try to get the effect without Photoshop tonight or tomorrow. Still what do you think composition wise? It’s a two shot exposure blending the shadow of the note over the shadow of the harmonica.

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Original size here

OleJ · 23rd Sep 2008, 12:22

Heh! Nice one!
I think if you take the exposure down between .5 and 1 to make sure the highlights aren't as blown it will definitely be up there!

Good idea mate! Kudoz!

ssR · 23rd Sep 2008, 18:10

i really like the composition, the idea and the mood set by the shot. but like you said im not sure if it's legit to submit such pics to POTM. then again it's not my call

akpoly · 23rd Sep 2008, 18:36

i like the idea and the intent behind it. This could have totally been done using film on a double exposure by covering the lens on one half and then exposing for the other half. But you did say it was a chop, so I'm up on the wall. (I didn't submit my culture for last month because I felt PSing the guy out would qualify it for a chop)

OleJ · 23rd Sep 2008, 20:30

AFAIK going through PS to achieve double exposure isn't cheating/unfair/heavy chopping... It's easily done on film so....
I think it's a hair thin line and it can sometimes be hard to exactly pinpoint where it is.

If your intention was to achieve a double exposure from the get go and you just blended the two layers in PS then I have a hard time seeing why it would disqualify it.

Doing this composition with 1 or 2 light sources and a tripod shouldn't be all too difficult though? Give it a go. I'd love to see the results.

Vers · 23rd Sep 2008, 21:01

Very clever...I like the concept. Some C&C: the shadow would look much better if it were on the same plane/angle as the harmonica. The lighting on the harmoica is off a bit as well, it should be a bit more uniform in relation to the shadow/light source (if your shadow is on the left side of a wall, and your standing to the right of it [the shadow] facing the wall...where is the light source?) Also, the hotspot in the middle could use a bit of toning down--hard light is good, blow outs are not. I know I'm just nit-picking, but its what separates a good image from an great one.

whisperwolf · 23rd Sep 2008, 22:41

Ok was having another play with this idea and trying to get one shot without any photoshop. I never want to light a shiny metal harmonica with a spotlight again. Positioning a torch on lots of cd boxes trying to get an angle that didn't just give blown highlights is annoying.
Anyway shots below full set here. What do you think?

1. without ony PS

2.

3.

ssR · 24th Sep 2008, 05:21

the original is still my favorite

OleJ · 24th Sep 2008, 13:13

Soo much better. I quite prefer the 1st of the new ones. Although all 3 have each their quality. Good job. Really!

Now go buy $10,000 worth of studio equipment (lights etc) and reshoot :P

whisperwolf · 24th Sep 2008, 13:26

There were times last night when I would have gladly spent the money if I could have stopped having to cellotape a torch to stacks of cds. Its a good job my other half wasn't around, think I would have got scowled at due the mess in the lounge.

Rhazesia · 24th Sep 2008, 17:11

I like the original best. Very clever.

whisperwolf · 24th Sep 2008, 23:33

OK final shot.
I prefered the lower down view from the first shot. so went back to try again. this time i used a better stand for the harmonica so didn't have to cloan it out from finished pic

I'm going to enter this into POTM as i don't see any difference to blending the two exposures on this to bracketing exposures on landscapes. If you don't agree don't vote for it.

Final shot is a double exposure using the d50 kit lens, 1 sec, f11, wb set to tungsten.
original size here

23rd Sep 2008, 11:31	#1
whisperwolf Ultramodder Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 1,194	The blues. now entered in POTM I had been looking at something more music blues-ie to enter in to POTM but think I have photoshopped this pic too much to be entered. I'm going to have another try to get the effect without Photoshop tonight or tomorrow. Still what do you think composition wise? It’s a two shot exposure blending the shadow of the note over the shadow of the harmonica. large size here Original size here __________________ "I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it. " Voltaire. My Flickr Last edited by whisperwolf; 24th Sep 2008 at 23:34.

23rd Sep 2008, 12:22	#2
OleJ Me! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 1,986	Heh! Nice one! I think if you take the exposure down between .5 and 1 to make sure the highlights aren't as blown it will definitely be up there! Good idea mate! Kudoz! __________________ Quickr! Clickr to my Flickr! Canon camera stuff. Some aluminium PC, an HTPC and a MBP 17"..

23rd Sep 2008, 18:10	#3
ssR Carbon God Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Israel Posts: 584	i really like the composition, the idea and the mood set by the shot. but like you said im not sure if it's legit to submit such pics to POTM. then again it's not my call __________________ Galleries: My DeviantArt \|\| My PhotoLight Gear: A620 \|\| 50D+BG-E2N \|\| Canon EF 17-40 F/4L USM \|\| Canon EF 50mm F/1.8 II \|\| Canon EF 85mm F/1.8 USM \|\| Canon EF 100mm F/2.8 Macro USM \|\|Canon 70-200 F/4L IS USM \|\| Sigma 10-20mm F/4-5.6 EX DC HSM \|\| Manfrotto 055xprob with 804RC2 head \|\| Canon Speedlite 430EX II

23rd Sep 2008, 18:36	#4
akpoly jobless architect Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: California Posts: 220	i like the idea and the intent behind it. This could have totally been done using film on a double exposure by covering the lens on one half and then exposing for the other half. But you did say it was a chop, so I'm up on the wall. (I didn't submit my culture for last month because I felt PSing the guy out would qualify it for a chop) __________________ Nikon D300 \| Nikkor 17-55 f2.8 \| Nikkor 70-200 f2.8 VR \| Nikkor 18-200 VRII \| Nikon SB-600 \| Nikon MB-D10

23rd Sep 2008, 20:30	#5
OleJ Me! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 1,986	AFAIK going through PS to achieve double exposure isn't cheating/unfair/heavy chopping... It's easily done on film so.... I think it's a hair thin line and it can sometimes be hard to exactly pinpoint where it is. If your intention was to achieve a double exposure from the get go and you just blended the two layers in PS then I have a hard time seeing why it would disqualify it. Doing this composition with 1 or 2 light sources and a tripod shouldn't be all too difficult though? Give it a go. I'd love to see the results. __________________ Quickr! Clickr to my Flickr! Canon camera stuff. Some aluminium PC, an HTPC and a MBP 17"..

23rd Sep 2008, 21:01	#6
Vers Protograffer...but not really. Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Orange County, NY Posts: 1,318	Very clever...I like the concept. Some C&C: the shadow would look much better if it were on the same plane/angle as the harmonica. The lighting on the harmoica is off a bit as well, it should be a bit more uniform in relation to the shadow/light source (if your shadow is on the left side of a wall, and your standing to the right of it [the shadow] facing the wall...where is the light source?) Also, the hotspot in the middle could use a bit of toning down--hard light is good, blow outs are not. I know I'm just nit-picking, but its what separates a good image from an great one. __________________ 1DIII, 5D+BG-E4, 40Dx2, Tamron 17-50, Canon EF-S 17-85, 16-35L, 70-200L f/2.8 IS, 100-400L IS, 35L, 50 f/1.4, 85 f/1.8, Sigma 150 Macro, 580EXIIx2, Giottos MT 9360+MH1001 Ballhead & MH658 QR system, Custom Brackets CB Jr. Flash Bracket flickr

23rd Sep 2008, 22:41	#7
whisperwolf Ultramodder Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 1,194	Ok was having another play with this idea and trying to get one shot without any photoshop. I never want to light a shiny metal harmonica with a spotlight again. Positioning a torch on lots of cd boxes trying to get an angle that didn't just give blown highlights is annoying. Anyway shots below full set here. What do you think? 1. without ony PS 2. 3. __________________ "I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it. " Voltaire. My Flickr

24th Sep 2008, 05:21	#8
ssR Carbon God Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Israel Posts: 584	the original is still my favorite __________________ Galleries: My DeviantArt \|\| My PhotoLight Gear: A620 \|\| 50D+BG-E2N \|\| Canon EF 17-40 F/4L USM \|\| Canon EF 50mm F/1.8 II \|\| Canon EF 85mm F/1.8 USM \|\| Canon EF 100mm F/2.8 Macro USM \|\|Canon 70-200 F/4L IS USM \|\| Sigma 10-20mm F/4-5.6 EX DC HSM \|\| Manfrotto 055xprob with 804RC2 head \|\| Canon Speedlite 430EX II

24th Sep 2008, 13:13	#9
OleJ Me! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 1,986	Soo much better. I quite prefer the 1st of the new ones. Although all 3 have each their quality. Good job. Really! Now go buy $10,000 worth of studio equipment (lights etc) and reshoot :P __________________ Quickr! Clickr to my Flickr! Canon camera stuff. Some aluminium PC, an HTPC and a MBP 17"..

24th Sep 2008, 13:26	#10
whisperwolf Ultramodder Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 1,194	There were times last night when I would have gladly spent the money if I could have stopped having to cellotape a torch to stacks of cds. Its a good job my other half wasn't around, think I would have got scowled at due the mess in the lounge. __________________ "I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it. " Voltaire. My Flickr

24th Sep 2008, 17:11	#11
Rhazesia What's a Dremel? Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 2	I like the original best. Very clever.

24th Sep 2008, 23:33	#12
whisperwolf Ultramodder Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 1,194	OK final shot. I prefered the lower down view from the first shot. so went back to try again. this time i used a better stand for the harmonica so didn't have to cloan it out from finished pic I'm going to enter this into POTM as i don't see any difference to blending the two exposures on this to bracketing exposures on landscapes. If you don't agree don't vote for it. Final shot is a double exposure using the d50 kit lens, 1 sec, f11, wb set to tungsten. original size here __________________ "I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it. " Voltaire. My Flickr Last edited by whisperwolf; 24th Sep 2008 at 23:38.