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CardJoe · 6th Oct 2008, 09:07

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2008/10...realdvd-halt/1

A court has ordered a temporary suspension in the distribution of RealNetworks' DVD ripping software RealDVD, pending a hearing on Tuesday.

ChaosDefinesOrder · 6th Oct 2008, 09:10

*loading court case*

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"All rise for the-"

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"Honerable-"

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screw RealNetworks.

liratheal · 6th Oct 2008, 09:11

I hope the movie industry takes one in the eye - Not because I like RealDVD (I don't like any of their software), but because the movie industry is already a multi-billion dollar industry, and shitting on LEGAL backups/rips for personal use is just making them seem like as big, if not bigger, a douche as Lars Ulrik.

Hope they get their asses sued for being money grabbing ****s.

Edit: Your profanity filter doesn't filter the four letter man-meat reference :B

steveo_mcg · 6th Oct 2008, 10:20

What a male chicken, its not profanity they say it on the bbc.
/ot

Can't say i'm surprised that they are getting sued the movie industry really can't see beyond the end of its cheque book, its so desperate to keep control of its old business methods in an age where they are becoming less and less relevant and applicable.

liratheal · 6th Oct 2008, 10:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by steveo_mcg

What a male chicken, its not profanity they say it on the bbc.
/ot

Every time I say it near kids or ladies, I get a physical slap or a verbal one >.>

DXR_13KE · 6th Oct 2008, 11:05

either way it goes i am happy, either real networks gets rammed or the media creators get rammed.

Fod · 6th Oct 2008, 11:07

Media Center + AnyDVD HD + MyMovies.

'nuff said.

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Originally Posted by DXR_13KE

either way it goes i am happy, either real networks gets rammed or the media creators get rammed.

i wouldn't be so flippant about this scenario. it still goes to show how arcane the movie studios (and by extension music labels) are as regards their attitude to digital storage and distribution.

Firehed · 6th Oct 2008, 16:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by liratheal

I hope the movie industry takes one in the eye - Not because I like RealDVD (I don't like any of their software), but because the movie industry is already a multi-billion dollar industry, and shitting on LEGAL backups/rips for personal use is just making them seem like as big, if not bigger, a douche as Lars Ulrik.

Hope they get their asses sued for being money grabbing ****s.

Edit: Your profanity filter doesn't filter the four letter man-meat reference :B

Yeah, unfortunately it's not that easy. While backups themselves are legal, breaking the copy protection isn't. The debate really is whether the DMCA has the legal ability to override the rights granted by the fair use act. Of course like any other geek I think the DMCA is a load of BS, but I still wouldn't sell software to break it.

(in the US of course - it's different everywhere).

liratheal · 6th Oct 2008, 17:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Firehed

Yeah, unfortunately it's not that easy. While backups themselves are legal, breaking the copy protection isn't. The debate really is whether the DMCA has the legal ability to override the rights granted by the fair use act. Of course like any other geek I think the DMCA is a load of BS, but I still wouldn't sell software to break it.

(in the US of course - it's different everywhere).

As I understand it there's DRM introduced in the digital copies that the Real software creates, though.

If I'm right about that, then this doesn't make it any easier to rip for distribution than say, ImTOO does, but Real has more money :/

Darkefire · 6th Oct 2008, 20:47

See, if the courts actually follow the established law, RealNetworks should win this one hands down. The DMCA doesn't prohibit copying a movie, only breaking the copy protection on it. As their software makes a bit-for-bit copy of the DVD right down to the CSS encryption, they're not breaking the law even slightly. I hate Real as much as the next guy and would never use their software, but the community had better hope for a win on their part; a loss would basically open the floodgates to litigation on every byte of DVD copying software the greedy *******s can find, legit or not.

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liratheal Just got a great book on tape Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: High Wycombe, UK Posts: 3,551	I hope the movie industry takes one in the eye - Not because I like RealDVD (I don't like any of their software), but because the movie industry is already a multi-billion dollar industry, and shitting on LEGAL backups/rips for personal use is just making them seem like as big, if not bigger, a douche as Lars Ulrik. Hope they get their asses sued for being money grabbing ****s. Edit: Your profanity filter doesn't filter the four letter man-meat reference :B __________________ Gigabyte MA790FX, X4 9950 Black Edition, 8gb Geil Black Dragon, 2x4870 512mb, Antec TruePower Quattro 850w I game, Do you?

6th Oct 2008, 10:20	#4
steveo_mcg What owl? Join Date: May 2005 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 3,975	What a male chicken, its not profanity they say it on the bbc. /ot Can't say i'm surprised that they are getting sued the movie industry really can't see beyond the end of its cheque book, its so desperate to keep control of its old business methods in an age where they are becoming less and less relevant and applicable. __________________ No boom today, boom tomorrow... there's always a boom tomorrow.

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Darkefire Minimodder Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 45	See, if the courts actually follow the established law, RealNetworks should win this one hands down. The DMCA doesn't prohibit copying a movie, only breaking the copy protection on it. As their software makes a bit-for-bit copy of the DVD right down to the CSS encryption, they're not breaking the law even slightly. I hate Real as much as the next guy and would never use their software, but the community had better hope for a win on their part; a loss would basically open the floodgates to litigation on every byte of DVD copying software the greedy *******s can find, legit or not.