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CardJoe · 8th Oct 2008, 11:59

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2008/10...amd-spin-off/1

Intel will question AMD over its foundary spin-off because it could effectively invalidate its x86 cross-licensing agreement.

DougEdey · 8th Oct 2008, 12:00

Surely AMDs lawyers (insert Mr Burns' here) will have studied this furiously?

liratheal · 8th Oct 2008, 12:11

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Originally Posted by DougEdey

Surely AMDs lawyers (insert Mr Burns' here) will have studied this furiously?

I think you might be expecting a little too much, there

biebiep · 8th Oct 2008, 13:47

The Foundry Company + AMD Designers = AMD conglomerate

They just have to keep the license at the top of the food chain and it's still their company making everything from an accountants point of view.

Rocket733 · 8th Oct 2008, 14:04

I think the bigger worry is for Intel to be slapped with a government investigation for being a monopoly. With AMD market share falling and no one else producing x86 microprocessors Intel could find itself in a situation similar to that of Corning way back in the day when they patented a process to mass produced lightbulbs. The government decided the technology was too important to be controlled by a single company and forced Corning to share the technology with GE.

Sebbo · 8th Oct 2008, 16:25

AMD owns 46% of FC, so is it still really outsourcing?

MasterYoda34 · 8th Oct 2008, 17:29

Intel will never revoke AMD's x86 license. If they did, Intel would instantly become a monopoly and that would have far more consequences for Intel than allowing AMD to outsource their x86 production. I think AMD knows this and is essentially playing a game of chicken with Intel.

HugoB · 8th Oct 2008, 17:50

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Originally Posted by Sebbo

AMD owns 46% of FC, so is it still really outsourcing?

Yes.

Tim S · 8th Oct 2008, 18:07

AMD would have to be the majority owner of The Foundry Company for it not to be outsourcing...

HourBeforeDawn · 8th Oct 2008, 20:18

ehh Intel is just afraid of the possible outcome so of course they are going to do what they can to slow AMD down. I mean really I dont think Intel wants to lose its crown again for like 6 years like last time lol.

Zytek_Fan · 9th Oct 2008, 00:01

Stop making stupid legal moves, Intel.
The Foundry Company is completely legal.

leviathan18 · 9th Oct 2008, 04:11

intel cant kill amd or they become a monopoly

1ad7 · 9th Oct 2008, 06:07

I didnt think of this... hmm well I doubt intel would pursue this too heavily due to the anti trust issues it could create

KrylonArt · 10th Oct 2008, 16:41

I personally think AMD probably is violating the cross-license agreement, but think Intel would turn it into a legal matter. Instead, Intel might attempt use it as a bargaining chip to convince AMD to drop the anti-trust suits against Intel. "Look, I won't sue you for violating our cross-licensing agreement and prevent you from making any chips... but you gotta drop the lawsuits against me."

grndzro7 · 14th Nov 2008, 22:38

Intel using that to force AMD to drop the lawsuit can't work. If Intel sues AMD for breaking the cross licensing agreement and wins then AMD shuts down.

If that happens Intel will be found to have a monopoly and all their Tech/Patents would be up for the birds. AMD would get government backing to put them back on track as well as full use of Intel patents.

Intel would never pull the trigger on that one.

8th Oct 2008, 11:59	#1
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8th Oct 2008, 13:47	#4
biebiep Multimodder Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 86	The Foundry Company + AMD Designers = AMD conglomerate They just have to keep the license at the top of the food chain and it's still their company making everything from an accountants point of view.

8th Oct 2008, 14:04	#5
Rocket733 Austerity - It's the only way Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 1,165	I think the bigger worry is for Intel to be slapped with a government investigation for being a monopoly. With AMD market share falling and no one else producing x86 microprocessors Intel could find itself in a situation similar to that of Corning way back in the day when they patented a process to mass produced lightbulbs. The government decided the technology was too important to be controlled by a single company and forced Corning to share the technology with GE.

8th Oct 2008, 17:29	#7
MasterYoda34 What's a Dremel? Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 4	Intel will never revoke AMD's x86 license. If they did, Intel would instantly become a monopoly and that would have far more consequences for Intel than allowing AMD to outsource their x86 production. I think AMD knows this and is essentially playing a game of chicken with Intel.

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Zytek_Fan The tortoise Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Idaho, United States Posts: 62	Stop making stupid legal moves, Intel. The Foundry Company is completely legal.

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KrylonArt What's a Dremel? Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 2	I personally think AMD probably is violating the cross-license agreement, but think Intel would turn it into a legal matter. Instead, Intel might attempt use it as a bargaining chip to convince AMD to drop the anti-trust suits against Intel. "Look, I won't sue you for violating our cross-licensing agreement and prevent you from making any chips... but you gotta drop the lawsuits against me."

14th Nov 2008, 22:38	#15
grndzro7 What's a Dremel? Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 1	Intel using that to force AMD to drop the lawsuit can't work. If Intel sues AMD for breaking the cross licensing agreement and wins then AMD shuts down. If that happens Intel will be found to have a monopoly and all their Tech/Patents would be up for the birds. AMD would get government backing to put them back on track as well as full use of Intel patents. Intel would never pull the trigger on that one.