[11/08] Odds Of Survival - bit-tech.net Forums

Silver51 · 15th Nov 2008, 21:23

When a ship is wrecked on the Cornish coast, the odds of survival for crew and cargo can be pretty bleak.

RMS Mulheim at Castle Zawn, between Sennen and Lands End. Launched in 1999, wrecked in 2003, this is what remains of the coaster.

Pentax K100D
f/3.5
1/45 sec
ISO-200
-1 step
18mm

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Krikkit · 16th Nov 2008, 10:07

That's a great picture, I really like it.

For those who want to know a bit more, have a look here.

Some nice photos in that set. I would think the engine will have been salvaged if it's not still in there... Not really a small bit of kit to go missing.

Amazing how quickly the sea has totally ruined it too - I know it's not supposed to be sitting ashore, but even so.

Silver51 · 16th Nov 2008, 20:51

Thanks.

I've added a shot of the engine and one from the bridge, starboard doorway. It wasn't really safe enough to go in, but you could see that the consoles had been salvaged some time ago.

The ship was powered by a Deutz SBV8M628 8 cylinder, so this is either it minus the sump and rocker/air box, or one of the generators.

The ship had a crew of six with only one person on duty at the time (about 4 in the morning.) The guy on watch was rendered unconscious by a fall from the bridge chair, leaving the ship powered with nobody behind the wheel. Not so bad in open water, but there's a lot of big rocks around Lands End.

Completed PE Summary: RMS Mulheim

Shadowed_fury · 16th Nov 2008, 21:02

Its a nice shot, don't get me wrong. But I would of loved to of seen more of the beach/sea in it. Just to give it a more sense of scale really.

Silver51 · 16th Nov 2008, 21:26

It's a tricky thing to photograph. The light this month has been terrible, even stopped down there's not a lot of detail in the sky so you end up with lots of pale grey.

This one has the sea in it, with Longships lighthouse on the horizon.

What you can't see is the rain which started as I arrived. The camera isn't wether sealed, so I had to hide it under my motorbike jacket while moving about the site. Didn't mind that so much, but there isn't any room in the camera bag for water proofs. By the time I'd ridden back to St.Ives, only my left foot was dry.

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Shadowed_fury · 16th Nov 2008, 21:34

Ohh, I much prefer that second one

very nice!

Krikkit · 16th Nov 2008, 23:33

Love the last shot of the engine - I assume the engine room wasn't complete anymore? How would you get something so big out of there?

Silver51 · 17th Nov 2008, 09:26

The fore and aft bulkheads are pretty much intact but you can walk through the engine room with your feet on the beach. From the looks of things, the hull was single skin at this point.

OleJ · 17th Nov 2008, 21:22

2nd shot tells a much more vivid story. I really want to like it but I think the highlights are just too burned out. If you had detail in the sky (by either doing HDR or a simple combination of 2 exposures) it could become a very strong image.

Silver51 · 20th Nov 2008, 14:50

Yeah, I know. It was overcast and misty the last couple of visits, the lighthouse even had their foghorn on when I took this. I had a go at HDR but there's not enough detail in the sky to make a difference.

I'll see if I can tweak the RAW file to get something out of the sky without breaking the image.

Silver51 · 21st Nov 2008, 17:33

Okay, recovered the sky from the raw file then merged the two images using the clone tool. If there's a better way of doing it I'd really love to know.

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Burnout21 · 22nd Nov 2008, 12:18

love that shot!

OleJ · 22nd Nov 2008, 17:29

Absolutely gorgeous with the sky in there! Merge well done. Stick with that one. You've ended up with a brilliant result

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Originally Posted by Silver51

Okay, recovered the sky from the raw file then merged the two images using the clone tool. If there's a better way of doing it I'd really love to know.

You put the two shots on top of each other. (2 layers). Make sure they are aligned of course. And the you use a layer mask to define which areas you want to show in the upper one.
In a layer mask you paint with black/grays to define transparency. It goes from 0-255 (visible->invisible).
Learn to use layer masks. It's an invaluable tool in Photoshop.

Silver51 · 24th Nov 2008, 10:44

Thanks, I'll have a play with that. The main reason for taking part in the PotM for me is it's a learning experience.

Oop, just realised that the title is missing the [11/08] and I can't see a way of changing it.

whisperwolf · 24th Nov 2008, 10:58

I used a simplified method of layer masking for some shots recently. If both images are aligned already open both pictures. Select all of the dark pic and pasted it into the light picture. between the two create a level adjustment layer and link the dark image to it (think its Ctrl-g in elements or ctrl alt g in photoshop) then alt click on the white thumbnail next to the level adjustment, this is its layer mask and ctrl V to paste the dark image into this mask. it comes out grey scale as semi auto mask. Then you can add Gaussian blur to this to soften the mask but keep the blur to a 10 pixels to avoid a halo effect. It’s worked quite nicely for me in a few shots and its quite quick.

OleJ · 24th Nov 2008, 12:50

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Originally Posted by Silver51

Oop, just realised that the title is missing the [11/08] and I can't see a way of changing it.

Click Edit on 1st post and then click on Advanced edit then you can change topic.

DeMoB · 25th Nov 2008, 10:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silver51

Oop, just realised that the title is missing the [11/08] and I can't see a way of changing it.

I'd done that too >_<

Thanks for reminding me!

Dan

15th Nov 2008, 21:23	#1
Silver51 I cast flare! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Cornwall Posts: 1,180	[11/08] Odds Of Survival When a ship is wrecked on the Cornish coast, the odds of survival for crew and cargo can be pretty bleak. RMS Mulheim at Castle Zawn, between Sennen and Lands End. Launched in 1999, wrecked in 2003, this is what remains of the coaster. Pentax K100D f/3.5 1/45 sec ISO-200 -1 step 18mm Large Image More Pictures Last edited by Silver51; 24th Nov 2008 at 14:56.

16th Nov 2008, 10:07	#2
Krikkit Don't panic! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Lancs, UK Posts: 15,141	That's a great picture, I really like it. For those who want to know a bit more, have a look here. Some nice photos in that set. I would think the engine will have been salvaged if it's not still in there... Not really a small bit of kit to go missing. Amazing how quickly the sea has totally ruined it too - I know it's not supposed to be sitting ashore, but even so. __________________ \|E8400 @ 4.4GHz\|WC: 2120.1 GT's, MCP350, Storm G5\|4GB Dominators\|DFI LT X48-T2R\|8800GT\|74GB Raptor\|Chieftec BA01\|OCZ ModXStream 600W\|Dell 2208WFP\| The Good, The Bad, The Ugly, The LOL!!1!!1!, The Zlad!, The Kempness, The Braaaaaains... Last edited by Krikkit; 16th Nov 2008 at 10:12.*

16th Nov 2008, 21:02	#4
Shadowed_fury Natural Born Chaos Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Telford Posts: 7,133	Its a nice shot, don't get me wrong. But I would of loved to of seen more of the beach/sea in it. Just to give it a more sense of scale really. __________________ Steam: kev_fury New Frag Video - Gigabyte EP43-DS3L - E8200 - XFX 4870 1GB - 4GB Kingston - - Steel Series 7.1s - Logitech G11 - Razer Diamondback 3G - 2209WA -

16th Nov 2008, 21:34	#6
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16th Nov 2008, 23:33	#7
Krikkit Don't panic! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Lancs, UK Posts: 15,141	Love the last shot of the engine - I assume the engine room wasn't complete anymore? How would you get something so big out of there? __________________ \|E8400 @ 4.4GHz\|WC: 2*120.1 GT's, MCP350, Storm G5\|4GB Dominators\|DFI LT X48-T2R\|8800GT\|74GB Raptor\|Chieftec BA01\|OCZ ModXStream 600W\|Dell 2208WFP\| The Good, The Bad, The Ugly, The LOL!!1!!1!, The Zlad!, The Kempness, The Braaaaaains...

16th Nov 2008, 20:51	#3
Silver51 I cast flare! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Cornwall Posts: 1,180	Thanks. I've added a shot of the engine and one from the bridge, starboard doorway. It wasn't really safe enough to go in, but you could see that the consoles had been salvaged some time ago. The ship was powered by a Deutz SBV8M628 8 cylinder, so this is either it minus the sump and rocker/air box, or one of the generators. The ship had a crew of six with only one person on duty at the time (about 4 in the morning.) The guy on watch was rendered unconscious by a fall from the bridge chair, leaving the ship powered with nobody behind the wheel. Not so bad in open water, but there's a lot of big rocks around Lands End. Completed PE Summary: RMS Mulheim

16th Nov 2008, 21:26	#5
Silver51 I cast flare! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Cornwall Posts: 1,180	It's a tricky thing to photograph. The light this month has been terrible, even stopped down there's not a lot of detail in the sky so you end up with lots of pale grey. This one has the sea in it, with Longships lighthouse on the horizon. What you can't see is the rain which started as I arrived. The camera isn't wether sealed, so I had to hide it under my motorbike jacket while moving about the site. Didn't mind that so much, but there isn't any room in the camera bag for water proofs. By the time I'd ridden back to St.Ives, only my left foot was dry. Large Image

17th Nov 2008, 09:26	#8
Silver51 I cast flare! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Cornwall Posts: 1,180	The fore and aft bulkheads are pretty much intact but you can walk through the engine room with your feet on the beach. From the looks of things, the hull was single skin at this point.

17th Nov 2008, 21:22	#9
OleJ Me! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 1,983	2nd shot tells a much more vivid story. I really want to like it but I think the highlights are just too burned out. If you had detail in the sky (by either doing HDR or a simple combination of 2 exposures) it could become a very strong image. __________________ Quickr! Clickr to my Flickr! Canon camera stuff. Some aluminium PC, an HTPC and a MBP 17"..

20th Nov 2008, 14:50	#10
Silver51 I cast flare! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Cornwall Posts: 1,180	Yeah, I know. It was overcast and misty the last couple of visits, the lighthouse even had their foghorn on when I took this. I had a go at HDR but there's not enough detail in the sky to make a difference. I'll see if I can tweak the RAW file to get something out of the sky without breaking the image.

21st Nov 2008, 17:33	#11
Silver51 I cast flare! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Cornwall Posts: 1,180	Okay, recovered the sky from the raw file then merged the two images using the clone tool. If there's a better way of doing it I'd really love to know. Large Image

22nd Nov 2008, 12:18	#12
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24th Nov 2008, 10:44	#14
Silver51 I cast flare! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Cornwall Posts: 1,180	Thanks, I'll have a play with that. The main reason for taking part in the PotM for me is it's a learning experience. Oop, just realised that the title is missing the [11/08] and I can't see a way of changing it.

24th Nov 2008, 10:58	#15
whisperwolf Ultramodder Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 1,194	I used a simplified method of layer masking for some shots recently. If both images are aligned already open both pictures. Select all of the dark pic and pasted it into the light picture. between the two create a level adjustment layer and link the dark image to it (think its Ctrl-g in elements or ctrl alt g in photoshop) then alt click on the white thumbnail next to the level adjustment, this is its layer mask and ctrl V to paste the dark image into this mask. it comes out grey scale as semi auto mask. Then you can add Gaussian blur to this to soften the mask but keep the blur to a 10 pixels to avoid a halo effect. It’s worked quite nicely for me in a few shots and its quite quick. __________________ "I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it. " Voltaire. My Flickr