New MacBooks enforce HD DRM - bit-tech.net Forums

Tim S · 19th Nov 2008, 13:57

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2008/11...force-hd-drm/1

The latest range of MacBook hardware, featuring a Mini DisplayPort as its only video output option, enforces DPCP DRM on certain iTunes video files - preventing playback via VGA.

StephenK · 19th Nov 2008, 14:07

The only people they're going to hurt are loyal, paying customers. The pirates will always find ways around the DRM. Shame the people who pay are being restricted more and more. When my powerbook finally needs to be replaced I dont think I'll be buying from Apple.

ChaosDefinesOrder · 19th Nov 2008, 14:11

absolutely disgusting, but people will still keep on buying them!

bowman · 19th Nov 2008, 14:14

People buy content from iTunes? Thought we already knew that crap was locked down and laden..

StephenK · 19th Nov 2008, 14:30

Sadly, most people neither know nor care

n3mo · 19th Nov 2008, 14:52

well, as long as there are people stupid enough to buy from Apple we will see more of such crap. Good thing is that torrented movies don't have any drm - and are available before official release

Phil Rhodes · 19th Nov 2008, 14:52

I dunno, I think this may be getting to the point where enough people will notice that it will cause an issue for the manufacturers. Regardless, at some point, that line will be crossed. Not soon enough for the likes of us, I suspect.

Tyrmot · 19th Nov 2008, 14:53

...and this is why I have never bought anything from apple.

Jordan Wise · 19th Nov 2008, 15:08

is anyone actually surprised by this? Its apple ffs

p3n · 19th Nov 2008, 15:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by StephenK

The only people they're going to hurt are loyal, paying customers. The pirates will always find ways around the DRM. Shame the people who pay are being restricted more and more. When my powerbook finally needs to be replaced I dont think I'll be buying from Apple.

What are you smoking? Do you not understand? HDCP is the ONLY way to play DRM'd things on an external display - if your external display doesnt support this then don't buy DRM content.

HDCP support is surely a feature not a problem?

Tools.

(I have a MBP on my monitor at home and it plays my non drm content just fine!)

pizan · 19th Nov 2008, 15:18

Thats why don't use iTunes, but thats also probably why iPod doesnt want to play any songs. damn fascists

steveo_mcg · 19th Nov 2008, 15:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by p3n

What are you smoking? Do you not understand? HDCP is the ONLY way to play DRM'd things on an external display - if your external display doesnt support this then don't buy DRM content.

HDCP support is surely a feature not a problem?

Tools.

(I have a MBP on my monitor at home and it plays my non drm content just fine!)

And any pirated material won't have ANY drm so you'll be able to do with it as you choose with out the restrictions set on you by apple/content producers. THUS only paying customers are effected.

HDCP is a feature much as a securom is a feature.

quack · 19th Nov 2008, 15:50

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Originally Posted by Techdirt

So here's a customer who legitimately purchased some content, and is being stopped from enjoying it in a perfectly reasonable, legitimate and legal way. Once again, it's puzzling to see content and technology companies implement these roadblocks to frustrate their paying customers.

What's the incentive for this guy to pay to download a movie, rather than download a pirated version that he can watch on his projector? Apparently, it bears repeating for content and device companies: you don't stop piracy by annoying your paying customers.

Source, emphasis mine.

*points at signature*

zimbloggy · 19th Nov 2008, 16:54

This should come as no surprise; Apple has been yanking their customers around since forever.

zimbloggy · 19th Nov 2008, 16:54

+Apple gets the most ridiculous fanboys ever.

pizan · 19th Nov 2008, 16:58

Well in the book according to Jobs, he knows what his customers want, not the customers.

ryall · 19th Nov 2008, 18:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by p3n

What are you smoking? Do you not understand? HDCP is the ONLY way to play DRM'd things on an external display - if your external display doesnt support this then don't buy DRM content.

HDCP support is surely a feature not a problem?

Tools.

(I have a MBP on my monitor at home and it plays my non drm content just fine!)

...Speaking of fanboys....

This always cracks me up when the apple zealots start posting.

"It's not a problem, it's a feature!"
"If you can't do something on leopard it's not supposed to be done!"
"That self-satisfied smug dweeb on the apple ads IS cool"
"All bow to the mighty Apple"

But to be fair most people that buy macs have, by definition, more money than sense. I don't think they'll bat an eyelid forking over more cash for a compliant monitor/tv/projector.

StephenK · 19th Nov 2008, 19:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by p3n

What are you smoking? Do you not understand? HDCP is the ONLY way to play DRM'd things on an external display - if your external display doesnt support this then don't buy DRM content.

HDCP support is surely a feature not a problem?

Tools.

(I have a MBP on my monitor at home and it plays my non drm content just fine!)

Then don't buy DRM content??

With the way things are going at the moment it's getting to the stage that soon the only way to get DRM free online will be to illegally download it. So if you want to be a paying customer then you must accept all the 'features' that the companies throw at you?

I guess you could just not buy any movies at all.... because that's going to be good for the industry!!

sotu1 · 19th Nov 2008, 19:11

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Originally Posted by zimbloggy

+Apple gets the most ridiculous fanboys ever.

+1. Aye.

Glider · 19th Nov 2008, 19:15

I tought the bare essence of Apple products was a form of DRM... Seriously, such a pile of crap components, bundled with a nice exterior can't cost that much...

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bowman Multimodder Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 249	People buy content from iTunes? Thought we already knew that crap was locked down and laden..

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n3mo Multimodder Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 184	well, as long as there are people stupid enough to buy from Apple we will see more of such crap. Good thing is that torrented movies don't have any drm - and are available before official release

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Phil Rhodes Supermodder Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 574	I dunno, I think this may be getting to the point where enough people will notice that it will cause an issue for the manufacturers. Regardless, at some point, that line will be crossed. Not soon enough for the likes of us, I suspect.

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Tyrmot Multimodder Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: London Posts: 204	...and this is why I have never bought anything from apple.

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