News GTA IV PC to use SecuROM

[CardJoe]

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2008/12...-use-securom/1

The upcoming PC version of Grand Theft Auto IV is set to use SecuROM copy-protection. Details within.

[DougEdey]

I'll get the funerals ready for all the DVD drives that will die

[airchie]

Lame.
I always thought more of Rockstar than this tbh...

Why do they insist on this crap DRM that doesn't work??

[Gunsmith]

Originally Posted by DougEdey

I'll get the funerals ready for all the DVD drives that will die

i dont think it'll be that bad.

[mikeuk2004]

Originally Posted by DougEdey

I'll get the funerals ready for all the DVD drives that will die

Not sure if ive missed something but are you saying sercum kills dvd drives? Its been along time since used my pc for gaming.

[Narishma]

I'll be buying this, put it in the closet with all the other games I have that use securom and instead play the pirated version. Much less trouble this way.

[Kúsař]

Originally Posted by DougEdey

I'll get the funerals ready for all the DVD drives that will die

AFAIK Only Starforce is killing DVD drives. Securom7(latest version) has been around for ... since Unreal 2? How long is that? And no-one complained - until new Securom *DRM* arrived. Securom7 vs. Securom DRM is like heaven & hell.

[StephenK]

That pic always creeps me out. The woman has six fingers on her right hand :P

[Darth Joules]

I agree with Gunsmith. In fact is there any solid direct evidence of optical drives actually dying because of SecuROM?

Never the less, I will sadly not be buying GTA:IV. Or Mirror's Edge. Not entirely because of SecuROM (GTA's version is almost benign like any ol'disk check method...apart from the hissy fits it'll throw with mounting software), but because of any possible third party advertizing software bundled with it, like Massive in Far Cry 2. Dynamic adverts in-game aren't necessarily a bad thing (didn't see any in FC2), but I'm more worried about invasive harvesting of personnal details/habits. You have to opt in if you want to play, but what exactly will you be giving up in return?

The only small joy this game will give me is watching all the rabid, brainless anti-SecuROM sheep bleating "SecuROM, NOT WANT!!!" out of their frothing mouths as they spam Amazon to death with one star reviews.

[bowman]

Windows is so full of DRM crap and Microsoft harvesting to begin with that one scheme on top of another will hardly make a difference.

Funny how all the privacy/rights advocates are sitting on their Windows installations thinking that somehow not installing a SecuROM game makes things better for them.. Get Linux, or stop crying.

[notatoad]

Originally Posted by bowman

Windows is so full of DRM crap and Microsoft harvesting

[mmorgue]

Shame... No way am I putting that SecuROM crap on my PC.

I'll settle for GTA4 via Steam

[steveo_mcg]

Would think twice about that....

Originally Posted by tfa

The SecuROM DRM will be present in both the Games For Windows branded retail release and the various online releases, such as the one on Steam. It's also worth pointing out that the online releases will still use the Games For Windows Live system to run the multiplayer.

[n3mo]

Hell no. Until they give ultra-silent DVD-ROMs with games i will just download the cracked version. Works faster, with no hassle and strange noises coming from dvd-drive.

[DougEdey]

I don't mean from SecuROM on it's own, I mean from people throwing their DVD drives out the window in frustration!

[DXR_13KE]

let me see if i got this straight....

We invest a considerable amount of time and effort to release each title, and employ a large number of people in the process. Having copy protection allows us to protect the integrity or our titles and future investments,

NO, copy protection does NOT allow you to protect the integrity or our titles and future investments, it will be cracked and pirated before it gets to the shops, ALL the cash that you poured into securom will be as useful as buying chocolate knife when you are trying to cut a hot peace of titanium covered with a layer of diamonds! You have paid more money to securom than the money you will get in return due to a FICTIONAL reduction in piracy.

But at the same time we have worked very hard to ensure that our solutions do not persecute the legitimate players of our games.

People will pirate the damn thing and will be able to play it with less problems than legit users... am i missing anything here?

I thought better of you, rockstar, but you are another of those companies that don't see a palm beyond your nose.... thanks for all your previous games but this one i will skip, at least until i see a genuine copy without crap.

ps: at least they don't limit the amount of installations...

edit: does anyone know the amount of money they give securom per game?

[Bursar]

Originally Posted by n3mo

Hell no. Until they give ultra-silent DVD-ROMs with games i will just download the cracked version. Works faster, with no hassle and strange noises coming from dvd-drive.

Originally Posted by RockStar

Aside from the fact that warez are a great place to pick up a Trojan or key logger, using a cracked copy of GTA IV PC will result in varying changes to the game experience. These can range from comical to game-progress-halting changes.

Rockstar Games rewards loyal, paying customers and will offer incentives and downloadable content that will only be available to registered users of the game, running non-hacked copies, via Rockstar Games Social Club.

[mmorgue]

Originally Posted by steveo_mcg

Would think twice about that....

Ah b*llocks... :P Why dyu need securom on a Steam install? I thought one of the points of Steam was to help prevent multi-installs/dupes without a valid key? Anyone knows you can copy the src files downloaded -- you just cant [read: legally] use them without a Steam account.

Sigh.. oh well. Newsgroups it is....

[Xtrafresh]

holy crap! This game was going to be the first game in ages i would have bought without first playing it, seeing how much i enjoyed GTA:SA and the MTA version of it.

Now i have to choose:
1) Get a steam account, use my CreditCard for games shopping (not intended for that), download, install, install Securom, validate, register with Rockstar Social Club, register with Games For Windows Live, play
2) download, install, copy crack, play, forget about the multiplayer

f*ck you Rockstar, i dont wanna do either!
I just want to play the damn game. I dont want to be mucking about on sites that collect endless piles of my personal data that is then sold to the highest bidder at the next bankrupcy of either one of the 65 companies involved, that i dont trust in the first place.

AAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRGHH

[tranc3]

So even if i by it htrew steam i still get securom? im a little lost ether way, R* did a uber fail.