Windows Vista SP2 beta performance - bit-tech.net Forums

Tim S · 10th Dec 2008, 09:23

http://www.bit-tech.net/bits/2008/12...-performance/1

With Microsoft making the Windows Vista Service Pack 2 beta available on Friday, we check out how the new service pack will likely perform when it's officially released next year.

djDEATH · 10th Dec 2008, 11:20

lol +/- 5% in either direction is a minimal difference. nothing to shout home about really

Bauul · 10th Dec 2008, 11:59

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Originally Posted by djDEATH

lol +/- 5% in either direction is a minimal difference. nothing to shout home about really

It's the difference between chosing your favourite L4D character and being beaten to it. Nothing to be sniffed at!

Tim S · 10th Dec 2008, 14:04

yep, differences are small... but not insignificant in some cases.

katmandude · 10th Dec 2008, 14:18

One question springs to mind why bother with vista in the first place?
I've had endless problems with driver issues and compatibility since day one of my unfortunate windows vista trek. So annoying were the problems that i reverted to my ol' pal XP (which, in the begining was a real pain in the hiney, before sp1... even then Xp was sort of unstable at times). I've tried vista 64 bit on a intel core2 8400 with two 4850 and 8 gigs of ram, 'aahhhh' thought I, 'some computing power after 2 years of , good and faithfull intel 3.2 + windows2K and windows XP service)
NOT A CHANCE.... vista screwed the wifi, turned hyde on my graphics suite (crossfire under 64 bit.. ha! not even a whimper after 2 years of developpement...) bugger....

What eally pisses me off is thir nonchalence at our day to day problems, the fact that u get updates which can potentialy make u're pc go from stable as a rock to jello stability in an instant. And that the updates are 'critical' , AB SOL UTE LY indispensable and if you don't get them u're passible of getting crucified by all sorts of nastys. Errrrr, people, seriously, when a bug, or a virus breaks out, in any case u're going to get it unless you unplug your pc from the system and not turn it on until after armageddon... nobody can predict ( cos it costs too much money

) what viruses will do in the future, and we have such a great imagination to invent things that will hurt, break, burn things/people

...Of course some of you might argue that u can chose what you install or not...
have any of you read what they put up as explanations for what black magic they are about to perform on your beloved machine?
I bet a genius from nasa on heroine wouldn't know...

**sigh**

example: with sp3 on xp they did something to 'fix' the wifi, which was pre sp3 working rather fine. ( i have a dlink DWL G510 rev C). after the 'fix' all hell breaks lose, i'm getting blue screens, freezes, programs not responding, a dll gone missing and poof, u're as good as on xanax + vanax cocktail. revert back to your old set up? undo what windows does? well, naturally i tried, naturally , it failed... well actually i didn't do ****: " t'was the prrrogram captain" , a back up point under XP, which strangely didn't undo all the update did.
another thing which makes me rather worried: i can't for some strange reason install windws explorer 7. it just WILL NOT update, install, or anything.
what now? wait for windows 7? decide to send a horse's head to S. ballmer? with a note : 'going to make you a offer you can't refuse'?
All i'm asking is for a OS whch works normally, with no hassle ( even though i'm prepared to undergo a bit, just cos i like computers).
PLEASE MICROSOFT GET ONE OS RIGHT !, just one, just a little.... ( oh yeah, u can shoot the morron who put vista together, several times , and burn him, exorcise his office, put salt on where he walked...)

all th best A.

katmandude · 10th Dec 2008, 14:27

for the record for the unlitterate:

windows 2K with the last SP can't remember if it was SP4 or 5 was rather good
windows XP SP2 : GREAT!
windows XP SP3 : BAD
VISTA : not really rubish, just very very unfinished. plenty of growing potential. one problem, having computers with a 'growing' OS can lead to very frustated customers and lots of company/work realted disasters.
on the whole: vista is like a paranoiac deeply depressed CIA agent with tourets syndrome, naked and dripped in gazelle sauce, on heroin, drunk, hunting lions with nukes... rather nice looking but terrible working buddy.

windows 98 : aarrgh , ok for
windows Me : If bill gates had appeared to me on the week after i installed Me, I would have f****** him in the spleen with a chain saw.
windows server: any date: not much to do but let the techies go balistic

great OS ^^
windows 95 : use the install CD as a frisbee in the office
windows 3.11 : great little piece of frankenOStien. loved to tweak and rewrite stuff for it.

DarkLord7854 · 10th Dec 2008, 14:40

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Originally Posted by katmandude

for the record for the unlitterate:

And that kids, is called Irony.

Gremlin · 10th Dec 2008, 14:44

really? i just thought it was a fine example of self pwning :P

DaMightyMouse · 10th Dec 2008, 14:53

( oh yeah, u can shoot the morron who put vista together, several times , and burn him, exorcise his office, put salt on where he walked...)

Someone give him a hug! There is so much anger :P

Tim S · 10th Dec 2008, 14:57

We should add a Hug module to the forums :-)

p3n · 10th Dec 2008, 15:12

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Originally Posted by DarkLord7854

Quote:

Originally Posted by katmandude

for the record for the unlitterate:

And that kids, is called Irony.

Golden.

StephenK · 10th Dec 2008, 15:23

Quote:

for the record for the unlitterate:

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkLord7854

And that kids, is called Irony.

That made my day

kenco_uk · 10th Dec 2008, 15:35

Well, give him a break. He is from Belgium. He's probably arrived pre-relixed, poor chap.

StephenK · 10th Dec 2008, 16:46

True. Made me laugh all the same

perplekks45 · 10th Dec 2008, 18:07

Classic.

So when is Relix becoming King/Emperor/God of Belgium?

Vista SP2 beta? Sure, I'll install this... as it was so much fun to go from SP1 beta to SP1 retail.

Slyr7.62 · 10th Dec 2008, 19:46

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Originally Posted by katmandude

for the record for the unlitterate

illiterate.

n3mo · 11th Dec 2008, 04:36

Face it, Vista is rubbish. It loses in every field to every other OS.
I don't get this whole push towards Vista on Bit-Tech. The site begins to look Micro$oft & Intel financed. When crappy i7 (which was a specially engineered sample) was pushed to 5.5GHz it got on front page, but when Daneb officially hits 6213 MHz (during AMD Austin Tech Day, this was a standard, retail-grade CPU) you don't say a word. I'm not a fanboy, but Bit-Tech seems to get more and more biased.

Journeyer · 11th Dec 2008, 13:32

Hm,, maybe it's me but I really don't get it.

I've been using Vista since it's pre-Vista days ... you know; back when it was known as Longhorn (in my opinion a much cooler sounding name. Though Xp also had a cooler sounding name in beta stage: Whistler). Anyway, as I said; I've been running Vista for quite some time, and sure - initially there were memory leaks, driver and stability issues. However, now that the system has matured a bit I find it to be a joy to work with. It does everything I ask of it, and it does not complain much about it. My games run as they did on XP, and in some cases even better. So yes, I really don't get all this Vista-bashing.

Then again, it would be boring if we all had the same opinions.

ParaHelix.org · 11th Dec 2008, 13:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by n3mo

Face it, Vista is rubbish. It loses in every field to every other OS.
I don't get this whole push towards Vista on Bit-Tech. The site begins to look Micro$oft & Intel financed. When crappy i7 (which was a specially engineered sample) was pushed to 5.5GHz it got on front page, but when Daneb officially hits 6213 MHz (during AMD Austin Tech Day, this was a standard, retail-grade CPU) you don't say a word. I'm not a fanboy, but Bit-Tech seems to get more and more biased.

Reading "Vista is rubbish" is getting really boring. As for " It loses in every field to every other OS" that is totally and utterly bull****, I love Linux but do you see Ubuntu been able to play Crysis, do you see XP with DX10, no, so please stop boring us with your insignificant comments.

Tim S · 11th Dec 2008, 13:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by n3mo

Face it, Vista is rubbish. It loses in every field to every other OS.
I don't get this whole push towards Vista on Bit-Tech. The site begins to look Micro$oft & Intel financed. When crappy i7 (which was a specially engineered sample) was pushed to 5.5GHz it got on front page, but when Daneb officially hits 6213 MHz (during AMD Austin Tech Day, this was a standard, retail-grade CPU) you don't say a word. I'm not a fanboy, but Bit-Tech seems to get more and more biased.

What, like here?

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2008/11...ed-for-ocing/1

and just to point this one thing out:

Quote:

Originally Posted by n3mo

(during AMD Austin Tech Day,

Quote:

was a standard, retail-grade CPU)

Do you realise what you've written?

Anyway, thanks for your opinion - everyone is entitled to one. We have two new AMD CPUs currently being tested, and when we tested the Core i7 value we pointed out the AM2+ platform was superb value, and the countless HD 4800s we've tested (and highly recommended over the competition), and other stuff that you can go search for - you've cheered the office up this afternoon. Thanks!

10th Dec 2008, 09:23	#1
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10th Dec 2008, 14:04	#4
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10th Dec 2008, 14:18	#5
katmandude What's a Dremel? Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Belgium Posts: 11	One question springs to mind why bother with vista in the first place? I've had endless problems with driver issues and compatibility since day one of my unfortunate windows vista trek. So annoying were the problems that i reverted to my ol' pal XP (which, in the begining was a real pain in the hiney, before sp1... even then Xp was sort of unstable at times). I've tried vista 64 bit on a intel core2 8400 with two 4850 and 8 gigs of ram, 'aahhhh' thought I, 'some computing power after 2 years of , good and faithfull intel 3.2 + windows2K and windows XP service) NOT A CHANCE.... vista screwed the wifi, turned hyde on my graphics suite (crossfire under 64 bit.. ha! not even a whimper after 2 years of developpement...) bugger.... What eally pisses me off is thir nonchalence at our day to day problems, the fact that u get updates which can potentialy make u're pc go from stable as a rock to jello stability in an instant. And that the updates are 'critical' , AB SOL UTE LY indispensable and if you don't get them u're passible of getting crucified by all sorts of nastys. Errrrr, people, seriously, when a bug, or a virus breaks out, in any case u're going to get it unless you unplug your pc from the system and not turn it on until after armageddon... nobody can predict ( cos it costs too much money ) what viruses will do in the future, and we have such a great imagination to invent things that will hurt, break, burn things/people ...Of course some of you might argue that u can chose what you install or not... have any of you read what they put up as explanations for what black magic they are about to perform on your beloved machine? I bet a genius from nasa on heroine wouldn't know... sigh example: with sp3 on xp they did something to 'fix' the wifi, which was pre sp3 working rather fine. ( i have a dlink DWL G510 rev C). after the 'fix' all hell breaks lose, i'm getting blue screens, freezes, programs not responding, a dll gone missing and poof, u're as good as on xanax + vanax cocktail. revert back to your old set up? undo what windows does? well, naturally i tried, naturally , it failed... well actually i didn't do ****: " t'was the prrrogram captain" , a back up point under XP, which strangely didn't undo all the update did. another thing which makes me rather worried: i can't for some strange reason install windws explorer 7. it just WILL NOT update, install, or anything. what now? wait for windows 7? decide to send a horse's head to S. ballmer? with a note : 'going to make you a offer you can't refuse'? All i'm asking is for a OS whch works normally, with no hassle ( even though i'm prepared to undergo a bit, just cos i like computers). PLEASE MICROSOFT GET ONE OS RIGHT !, just one, just a little.... ( oh yeah, u can shoot the morron who put vista together, several times , and burn him, exorcise his office, put salt on where he walked...) all th best A. __________________ PQ5 Pro\|core2 8400\|4x2gigs DDR2 6400\|2x4850 crossfire\|2xraptor/raid0\|XP sp3 + vista 64 bit.

10th Dec 2008, 14:27	#6
katmandude What's a Dremel? Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Belgium Posts: 11	for the record for the unlitterate: windows 2K with the last SP can't remember if it was SP4 or 5 was rather good windows XP SP2 : GREAT! windows XP SP3 : BAD VISTA : not really rubish, just very very unfinished. plenty of growing potential. one problem, having computers with a 'growing' OS can lead to very frustated customers and lots of company/work realted disasters. on the whole: vista is like a paranoiac deeply depressed CIA agent with tourets syndrome, naked and dripped in gazelle sauce, on heroin, drunk, hunting lions with nukes... rather nice looking but terrible working buddy. windows 98 : aarrgh , ok for windows Me : If bill gates had appeared to me on the week after i installed Me, I would have f****** him in the spleen with a chain saw. windows server: any date: not much to do but let the techies go balistic great OS ^^ windows 95 : use the install CD as a frisbee in the office windows 3.11 : great little piece of frankenOStien. loved to tweak and rewrite stuff for it. __________________ PQ5 Pro\|core2 8400\|4x2gigs DDR2 6400\|2x4850 crossfire\|2xraptor/raid0\|XP sp3 + vista 64 bit.

10th Dec 2008, 14:44	#8
Gremlin Multimodder Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 233	really? i just thought it was a fine example of self pwning :P

10th Dec 2008, 14:53	#9
DaMightyMouse Minimodder Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 45	( oh yeah, u can shoot the morron who put vista together, several times , and burn him, exorcise his office, put salt on where he walked...) Someone give him a hug! There is so much anger :P

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10th Dec 2008, 15:35	#13
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10th Dec 2008, 18:07	#15
perplekks45 BSc... finally Join Date: May 2004 Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 3,353	Classic. So when is Relix becoming King/Emperor/God of Belgium? Vista SP2 beta? Sure, I'll install this... as it was so much fun to go from SP1 beta to SP1 retail. __________________ "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far." Blame it on Cheaps! [now a social group]

11th Dec 2008, 04:36	#17
n3mo Multimodder Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 184	Face it, Vista is rubbish. It loses in every field to every other OS. I don't get this whole push towards Vista on Bit-Tech. The site begins to look Micro$oft & Intel financed. When crappy i7 (which was a specially engineered sample) was pushed to 5.5GHz it got on front page, but when Daneb officially hits 6213 MHz (during AMD Austin Tech Day, this was a standard, retail-grade CPU) you don't say a word. I'm not a fanboy, but Bit-Tech seems to get more and more biased.

11th Dec 2008, 13:32	#18
Journeyer Ultramodder Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 1,109	Hm,, maybe it's me but I really don't get it. I've been using Vista since it's pre-Vista days ... you know; back when it was known as Longhorn (in my opinion a much cooler sounding name. Though Xp also had a cooler sounding name in beta stage: Whistler). Anyway, as I said; I've been running Vista for quite some time, and sure - initially there were memory leaks, driver and stability issues. However, now that the system has matured a bit I find it to be a joy to work with. It does everything I ask of it, and it does not complain much about it. My games run as they did on XP, and in some cases even better. So yes, I really don't get all this Vista-bashing. Then again, it would be boring if we all had the same opinions. __________________ When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth. MSI 790FX-GD70 \|\| PhenomII X4 955 \|\| 8Gb Crucial DDR3 1333Mhz \|\| Gigabyte GTX285\|\| OCZ EliteXstream 1KW