Janus team launches "Privacy Adaptor" - bit-tech.net Forums

CardJoe · 23rd Dec 2008, 13:10

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2008/12...vacy-adaptor/1

The Janus team - creators of the pro-privacy JanusVM - has announced a hardware based 'privacy adaptor' that routes all traffic across a VPN or the TOR network.

mclean007 · 23rd Dec 2008, 14:19

Clever, but kind of pointless. As far as I can see, the only people who need to encrypt their traffic are either (a) doing something illegal, in which case we really shouldn't be encouraging the use of devices that make it easier (and in any case my understanding is that TOR is so slow you wouldn't want to use it for e.g. file sharing), or (b) working in an environment (e.g. secret service, military, etc.) which will already have strong encryption protocols in place. Anyway, can't you just use a software proxy to route traffic over TOR?

airchie · 23rd Dec 2008, 15:01

There's a third type of person you didn't list.
They type of person who objects to ISP sniffing their traffic for monetary gain without explicit permission ala Phorm et al.
This would defeat that.

I think its a great idea tbh.
Those people doing illegal things will do it anyway and usually be paranoid enough to cover their tracks anyway.

Skepsis · 23rd Dec 2008, 15:53

Quick, to the pedo cave!

n3mo · 23rd Dec 2008, 16:43

Well, here in Eastern Europe there is no net monitoring at all (our law prohibits such actions) so it's not our problem. When i look at what is happening in UK it seems ridiculous for me.

DXR_13KE · 23rd Dec 2008, 17:31

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<Blake> · 23rd Dec 2008, 17:39

the fourth type of person is someone who dosn't like governments filtering their internet, such as Saudi Arabia, china, and soon to be Australia (where you can get a free internet filter that is opt-in, and only 2% of the pop got it... so the government thinks everyone wants it).

Zut · 23rd Dec 2008, 19:34

Why does anyone expect their surfing habits to be private?? Would you avoid shopping on the highstreet or going to the library unless you were somehow invisible?

I dont understand this whole kneejerk privacy thing at all.

n3mo · 23rd Dec 2008, 20:57

@Zut
Maybe do some reading. Would you like to go shopping on the highstreet with someone following you and writing down everything you bought/showed interest in and than send you a ton of ads about similar things? Thats exactly what companies like Phorm are doing. And it's not just ads - some companies use this data to change the price accordingly - when they know that you are buying lots of the same stuff (take expensive coffee for example) they can give you a "special" price - and it's not "bad sci-fi", one of the online PC shops did this to me - one day I noticed that the prices of some stuff I bought lots of are a little higher when I log in than than when not logged in.

And the other thing - would you like it if some day your job application would get thrown away because your potential boss got a report from a tracking company saying that you have an interest in young redheads? Or because of something you said on a political forum a few years ago?

Would you like someone to watch what movies you like, what books you read (if any), what kind of girls you like, what are the names of your family members, what you buy, what is your financial status, credit rating and so on? Bet you wouldn't like that one bit, but guess what, that's exactly the data marketing companies gather online.

LordPyrinc · 24th Dec 2008, 05:35

We should all have some sense of privacy. Its bullshit that we keep getting our rights taken away. Besides, no one has the resources to track all online traffic. If you do dumb sh*t, you should be watched, else leave the rest of us average users alone.

Huxen5 · 27th Dec 2008, 15:21

Well put, n3mo! The government wants it because, after all, knowledge is power and if its recorded by someone the government can essentially force them to hand the information over citing anti-terrorism crap.

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...Uhh...I formally retract my statement...I was confused about the topic and introduced a false conversational element, which...uhh...i firmly..uhh...disagree with.Completely...because everything is totally great...*gulp*

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23rd Dec 2008, 14:19	#2
mclean007 Officious Bystander Join Date: May 2003 Location: Nodnol Posts: 1,595	Clever, but kind of pointless. As far as I can see, the only people who need to encrypt their traffic are either (a) doing something illegal, in which case we really shouldn't be encouraging the use of devices that make it easier (and in any case my understanding is that TOR is so slow you wouldn't want to use it for e.g. file sharing), or (b) working in an environment (e.g. secret service, military, etc.) which will already have strong encryption protocols in place. Anyway, can't you just use a software proxy to route traffic over TOR? __________________ Demand Naked DSL in the UK!

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23rd Dec 2008, 20:57	#9
n3mo Multimodder Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 184	@Zut Maybe do some reading. Would you like to go shopping on the highstreet with someone following you and writing down everything you bought/showed interest in and than send you a ton of ads about similar things? Thats exactly what companies like Phorm are doing. And it's not just ads - some companies use this data to change the price accordingly - when they know that you are buying lots of the same stuff (take expensive coffee for example) they can give you a "special" price - and it's not "bad sci-fi", one of the online PC shops did this to me - one day I noticed that the prices of some stuff I bought lots of are a little higher when I log in than than when not logged in. And the other thing - would you like it if some day your job application would get thrown away because your potential boss got a report from a tracking company saying that you have an interest in young redheads? Or because of something you said on a political forum a few years ago? Would you like someone to watch what movies you like, what books you read (if any), what kind of girls you like, what are the names of your family members, what you buy, what is your financial status, credit rating and so on? Bet you wouldn't like that one bit, but guess what, that's exactly the data marketing companies gather online. Last edited by n3mo; 23rd Dec 2008 at 21:09.

24th Dec 2008, 05:35	#10
LordPyrinc Legomaniac Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: USA Posts: 254	We should all have some sense of privacy. Its bullshit that we keep getting our rights taken away. Besides, no one has the resources to track all online traffic. If you do dumb sh*t, you should be watched, else leave the rest of us average users alone. __________________ HP Pavilion Elite m9040n PC - Vista Home Premium Intel Core 2 Quad Processor Q6600 @ 2.40ghz - 3G of RAM - Dual 320G HDs Upgrades/Add-ons: 22" Widescreen LCD, 700W RocketFish PSU, BFG GeForce 9800 GT 160G Ext USB HD, Logitech X-540 5.1 Surround Sound Speakers

23rd Dec 2008, 15:53	#4
Skepsis What's a Dremel? Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 15	Quick, to the pedo cave!

23rd Dec 2008, 16:43	#5
n3mo Multimodder Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 184	Well, here in Eastern Europe there is no net monitoring at all (our law prohibits such actions) so it's not our problem. When i look at what is happening in UK it seems ridiculous for me.

23rd Dec 2008, 17:39	#7
<Blake> What's a Dremel? Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 10	the fourth type of person is someone who dosn't like governments filtering their internet, such as Saudi Arabia, china, and soon to be Australia (where you can get a free internet filter that is opt-in, and only 2% of the pop got it... so the government thinks everyone wants it).

23rd Dec 2008, 19:34	#8
Zut Multimodder Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Near Sheffield, UK Posts: 127	Why does anyone expect their surfing habits to be private?? Would you avoid shopping on the highstreet or going to the library unless you were somehow invisible? I dont understand this whole kneejerk privacy thing at all.

27th Dec 2008, 15:21	#11
Huxen5 Ageing Rapidly Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Glastonbury, UK Posts: 41	Well put, n3mo! The government wants it because, after all, knowledge is power and if its recorded by someone the government can essentially force them to hand the information over citing anti-terrorism crap. smash "AAAGH!" crash bang.... "HELP...", mumbled words and crying ...Uhh...I formally retract my statement...I was confused about the topic and introduced a false conversational element, which...uhh...i firmly..uhh...disagree with.Completely...because everything is totally great...gulp Hello Echelon! How's the coffee?