Intel says no to Nvidia's Ion - bit-tech.net Forums

Tim S · 26th Dec 2008, 09:52

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2008/12...nvidia-s-ion/1

Intel kills the season of goodwill and decides that it won't sell its Atom CPUs without the chipset bundled.

iwod · 26th Dec 2008, 10:07

I think it is time to punish Intel for its Anti Competitive behaviour. If they have actually bothered to include even a G45 i dont think as many people will complain.

teamtd11 · 26th Dec 2008, 10:22

http://www.techpowerup.com/79933/Int..._Platform.html

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Bindibadgi · 26th Dec 2008, 10:28

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Originally Posted by teamtd11

http://www.techpowerup.com/79933/Int..._Platform.html

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Didn't read that this morning! But

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We sell Atom as a stand-alone processor, or as package with chipset,

First I've heard of this. I'll dig around in Taiwan to check, but it'll be next week now.

EDIT: Oooh, right, I've just worked it out.

I think they might sell singularly but it basically makes significant economic sense to buy it as a package. I don't know the numbers - I'm trying to find them out.

Gremlin · 26th Dec 2008, 10:49

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Originally Posted by teamtd11

http://www.techpowerup.com/79933/Int..._Platform.html

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was just about to post that myself

its good news imo!

wuyanxu · 26th Dec 2008, 10:50

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Originally Posted by Bindibadgi

I think they might sell singularly but it basically makes significant economic sense to buy it as a package. I don't know the numbers - I'm trying to find them out.

so nVidia + Atom will cost significantly more expensive than Atom + 945??

Bindibadgi · 26th Dec 2008, 10:52

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Originally Posted by wuyanxu

so nVidia + Atom will cost significantly more expensive than Atom + 945??

That is my assumption but I'm trying to find out all the numbers before I write another news piece. It would make the most sense.

yakyb · 26th Dec 2008, 11:16

i almost cried i would love an ion

koola · 26th Dec 2008, 11:21

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Originally Posted by yakyb

i almost cried i would love an ion

+1

Denis_iii · 26th Dec 2008, 13:13

I'm sure via will be happy to work with Nvidia, and I'd much prefer Nvidia Ion coupled with Via Nano cpu

D3s3rt_F0x · 26th Dec 2008, 13:22

Why would an Ion be good with an Atom can someone explain? I personally cant see a point for the kind of platforms Atom is based on, but I might be misinformed.

s3v3n · 26th Dec 2008, 13:59

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Originally Posted by Denis_iii

I'm sure via will be happy to work with Nvidia, and I'd much prefer Nvidia Ion coupled with Via Nano cpu

I still don't understand why nVidia ditched VIA. They should have at least waited till Intel let them use atom...

mclintox · 26th Dec 2008, 14:41

You think that they would be happy to sell the Atom to whoever wants it in todays financial climate.A sale is a sale,cash in the bank!

leexgx · 26th Dec 2008, 16:18

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Originally Posted by teamtd11

http://www.techpowerup.com/79933/Int..._Platform.html

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same here was about to post that my self

atom is very low power, intel IGP sucks, Nvidia chipset + atom alows full hardware HD out at about the same power use

i would only ever want an dual core atom thought atom is slow but dual core one would take the edge off it alot

tranc3 · 26th Dec 2008, 20:03

Hm, Still the business side of computers scares me.

HourBeforeDawn · 26th Dec 2008, 20:31

wel it kinda makes some sense as the whole netbook and nettops are more aimed at like business and similar not really anything visually intensive as that would just lower battery lfe even further but at the same time you would think that having options like that would allow the people to grasp the atom even further. My guess is Intel doesnt want to do this as they want options for when they launch their graphics card stuff so they can put it towards all these different things and so forth but ehh I could be wrong.

n3mo · 26th Dec 2008, 20:36

I think that Intel is growing to be too arrogant. Maybe they should remember a moral from IBM's history - in IT world even the greatest, most expensive company can very quickly be reduced to insignificant ashes. Monopoly is not good for anyone, and I wish intel everything bad.

p3n · 27th Dec 2008, 00:00

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Originally Posted by n3mo

I think that Intel is growing to be too arrogant. Maybe they should remember a moral from IBM's history - in IT world even the greatest, most expensive company can very quickly be reduced to insignificant ashes. Monopoly is not good for anyone, and I wish intel everything bad.

They are trying to create a super stable 'MID' platform, not your average PC internals.. atleast thats what I thought atom was for!

Burnout21 · 27th Dec 2008, 00:31

yay, full HD capable netbooks with oh wait, err small screens. dang!

just kidding, as an ITX board, everyone will be happy as the atom can be used as a true HTPC device, i know il snatch one up! Even if it cost £50 more than current Atom ITX boards, which are ~£50.

Hephasteus · 27th Dec 2008, 00:39

Intel made a mistake. Bullying people around might have worked in 1988 but in 2008 that's going to hurt them badly.

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26th Dec 2008, 10:07	#2
iwod Minimodder Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 44	I think it is time to punish Intel for its Anti Competitive behaviour. If they have actually bothered to include even a G45 i dont think as many people will complain.

26th Dec 2008, 13:13	#10
Denis_iii Hypermodder Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 872	I'm sure via will be happy to work with Nvidia, and I'd much prefer Nvidia Ion coupled with Via Nano cpu

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26th Dec 2008, 14:41	#13
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