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CardJoe · 7th Jan 2009, 11:55

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2009/01...oss-terminal/1

Data loss - believed to be the work of a disgruntled ex-employee - at blogging site JournalSpace prompts the company to shut up shop for good.

[USRF]Obiwan · 7th Jan 2009, 12:14

Still, I believe if there was not a 'annoying person' that deleted all the stuff, the data would have been relative save if one of the mirror drives failed due to hardware fault. If there was for example a DLT tape backup. The same person could have destroyed all the DLT backup tapes along the deletion of files on the hard drives.

Gareth Halfacree · 7th Jan 2009, 12:28

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Originally Posted by [USRF]Obiwan

Still, I believe if there was not a 'annoying person' that deleted all the stuff, the data would have been relative save if one of the mirror drives failed due to hardware fault.

Yeah, but that's a reliability thing - not a backup. A backup should allow you to recover data if you accidentaly type 'rm -rf *' in the wrong directory - which RAID will most certainly not cover.

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Originally Posted by [USRF]Obiwan

If there was for example a DLT tape backup. The same person could have destroyed all the DLT backup tapes along the deletion of files on the hard drives.

That would be why you have off-site storage of backups - again, in the event of a fire or flood your data is gone unless you've got a full copy somewhere else. It's not like you have to spend any money, either: just take a weekly tape backup home with you every Friday.

liratheal · 7th Jan 2009, 12:38

All I can say is: Noobs.

Bluephoenix · 7th Jan 2009, 12:55

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Originally Posted by liratheal

All I can say is: Noobs.

+1

chicorasia · 7th Jan 2009, 12:57

someone once said:

"Good judgement comes from experience.
Experience comes from bad judgement."

phuzz · 7th Jan 2009, 12:59

As an IT admin this story makes me cry.
And then double check all my backups.
Our SQL servers make a backup to disk every night, also the entire server is backed up to tape incrementaly every night, and then the tapes are stored off site, oh, and they all run on RAID5 volumes as well of course, that's almost what I'd consider a minimum for a business system.

Venares · 7th Jan 2009, 13:05

/FACEPALM

RAID (Redundant Array of Independent Disks)

Key word there being "Redundant ".
Its whole point is to prevent data loss due to a poped drive, not as a backup solution.
Any company that doesnt have a good Disaster Recovery plan in place and tested regularly is just ASKING for it.
Sad, bit I have to aggree with liratheal & Bluephoenix.
n00bs of the highest order.

raGe82 · 7th Jan 2009, 19:34

At first I thought it's some joke... I just can't believe it - hosting company is 6 years in the business and no one ever at least read about storage and backups?

LordPyrinc · 7th Jan 2009, 23:45

Makes me wonder where they got there Sys Admins from... highschool career day?

DXR_13KE · 8th Jan 2009, 00:50

they went the way of the dodo... natural selection works....

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phuzz Hypermodder Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bristol, UK Posts: 955	As an IT admin this story makes me cry. And then double check all my backups. Our SQL servers make a backup to disk every night, also the entire server is backed up to tape incrementaly every night, and then the tapes are stored off site, oh, and they all run on RAID5 volumes as well of course, that's almost what I'd consider a minimum for a business system.

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Venares What's a Dremel? Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 17	/FACEPALM RAID (Redundant Array of Independent Disks) Key word there being "Redundant ". Its whole point is to prevent data loss due to a poped drive, not as a backup solution. Any company that doesnt have a good Disaster Recovery plan in place and tested regularly is just ASKING for it. Sad, bit I have to aggree with liratheal & Bluephoenix. n00bs of the highest order.

7th Jan 2009, 19:34	#9
raGe82 Minimodder Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Bydgoszcz, Poland Posts: 26	At first I thought it's some joke... I just can't believe it - hosting company is 6 years in the business and no one ever at least read about storage and backups?