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Bindibadgi · 2nd Mar 2009, 14:18

http://www.bit-tech.net/blog/2009/03...-from-deus-ex/

Tyrmot · 2nd Mar 2009, 15:36

What a stupidly good game it was, and remains of course, the only one I bring myself to consistently replay on a regular basis.

delriogw · 2nd Mar 2009, 16:03

thanks for the answer joe, and i have to say i think i gained similar experiences.

though my friends weren't really into gaming so i didn't have the discussion element, i thoroughly enjoyed how many times one could go through the game without really playing the same game.

yes as you say, the levels were played in the same order, but every time i play i have a different experience, i try different things just to see how it affects the story later on. i must have played through the game half a dozen times, and i still know there's so much more to do.

like the previous poster, it is a game i will continue to return to.. so long as i have my ps2, or a computer that supports the pc version (and yes i own it on both formats lol)

Xir · 2nd Mar 2009, 16:48

Always a shame: deus ex 2 is dirt cheap in the shops but deus ex one is either not available or four times the price....grrr

Skiddywinks · 2nd Mar 2009, 17:16

I will never forget how amazing all of my experiences were with Deus Ex. It is the only game that I can not remember how many times I have completed it (Baldur's Gate 2 is in second place on 3 playthroughs). It was that many

And each and everytime I have learnt, experienced, and played something different. It is amazing how much thought, care and attention to detail went in to crafting it. It was almost literally heart breaking when I played DE2. Sure, it wasn't a bad game, but it was a horrific sequel.

And after reading up on some released details on the new DE, I am not exactly holding my breath for a game that surpasses, or even equals, the original.

They sure don't make them like they used to.

phuzz · 2nd Mar 2009, 18:17

Deus Ex is only £5.99 on Steam.
hmm, so is Invisible War, should I?

Skiddywinks · 2nd Mar 2009, 18:21

So long as you expect to be let down, it is worth playing. But don't expect anything near to the quality of the original.

naokaji · 2nd Mar 2009, 19:44

The original Deus Ex is still one of the best games, even though many years have gone by and thousands of games have been released since then.

Angleus · 2nd Mar 2009, 20:00

My favourite game ever, at the time I didn't really know anyone else who had played it so was kinda sad when I realised it wasn't an obscure title!

Elton · 3rd Mar 2009, 13:51

Deus Ex needs to be remade..

Of all the games it deserves one.

yakyb · 3rd Mar 2009, 14:06

yeah a remake in source would be great

Bauul · 3rd Mar 2009, 17:09

First time I played Deus Ex I steadfastly refused to turn against the organisation you work for (Unatco? My memory fails me). Even given all the coroption and evilness, and the game literally begging me to throw off the shackles of 'the man' and go my own way, I stayed on the straight and narrow for AGES. It also meant Anna Navara stayed alive for most of the game as I refused to kill her (she was my boss!). Made for a rather fascinating play through as the game's story was really pushed to the limit, it was amazing at even though I was going way off centre, it still all worked and made perfect sense.

Xir · 3rd Mar 2009, 18:57

Hadn't considered Steam...you're right...10euros

CardJoe · 3rd Mar 2009, 22:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bauul

First time I played Deus Ex I steadfastly refused to turn against the organisation you work for (Unatco? My memory fails me). Even given all the coroption and evilness, and the game literally begging me to throw off the shackles of 'the man' and go my own way, I stayed on the straight and narrow for AGES. It also meant Anna Navara stayed alive for most of the game as I refused to kill her (she was my boss!). Made for a rather fascinating play through as the game's story was really pushed to the limit, it was amazing at even though I was going way off centre, it still all worked and made perfect sense.

And I remember you actually telling me about that on the bus and me telling you that you were stupid - I killed Anna as soon as possible, then hid the fact. I also killed the private at the top of the statue of liberty at the start of the first level, which changes a lot of the start of the game.

Zurechial · 3rd Mar 2009, 22:36

More than one of the finest games ever made, it's one of the best pieces of fiction ever produced in any medium.

It's one of those games I can return to time and time again and ALWAYS find something new in the game that I never saw before, from a hidden room to a new a dialogue path or even something as simple as another newspaper on the ground.

On top of all that, with its stiff animations and relatively low-poly models, it's a triumph of content and gameplay over graphics and yet at the same time has its own gritty, immersive visual style that it pulls off beautifully.

"You know you've played Deus Ex too much when... You realise you can never play Deus Ex too much."

My experience of Deus Ex seems to be almost identical to Joe's, and basically taught me the same things - It's just that good.
I'm really enjoying these blogs, they're a great addition to the site.

TomH · 4th Mar 2009, 00:51

Oh my life. Joe, I hate you. I've played through Deus Ex so many times; I've even managed to complete it on 'realistic', without the healing aug or any of the rifle/heavy weapon skills on top of knocking everyone out. Yep, I didn't kill anyone aside from the key characters.

But I'm still going to have to go back and kill the guy at the top of Liberty statue: I've always interrogated him! I never knew you could kill him! What have I missed!? And NOT saving Stanton Dowd? Oh my life... Me, and my dissertation, hate you. What a totally epic tribute, to a totally epic game.

CardJoe · 4th Mar 2009, 07:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by TomH

Oh my life. Joe, I hate you. I've played through Deus Ex so many times; I've even managed to complete it on 'realistic', without the healing aug or any of the rifle/heavy weapon skills on top of knocking everyone out. Yep, I didn't kill anyone aside from the key characters.

But I'm still going to have to go back and kill the guy at the top of Liberty statue: I've always interrogated him! I never knew you could kill him! What have I missed!? And NOT saving Stanton Dowd? Oh my life... Me, and my dissertation, hate you. What a totally epic tribute, to a totally epic game.

Heh - you can kill the NSF leader instead of interrogating him, yep. That's not actually what I was referring to though. I was talking about the UNATCO guard that comes to collect the terrorist and who asks you to report back to base - you can kill HIM too. That lets you get more convo out of the terrorist, as well as making Manderley suspicious of you early on as he launches an inquiry into that soldiers death.

TomH · 4th Mar 2009, 12:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by CardJoe

Heh - you can kill the NSF leader instead of interrogating him, yep. That's not actually what I was referring to though. I was talking about the UNATCO guard that comes to collect the terrorist and who asks you to report back to base - you can kill HIM too. That lets you get more convo out of the terrorist, as well as making Manderley suspicious of you early on as he launches an inquiry into that soldiers death.

I would never have thought about doing that!

So re-installing it on my old PC!

CardJoe · 4th Mar 2009, 13:15

There's loads of hidden stuff. The first time you get to explore the UNATCO base you can barge in on Shannon in the womens toilet for example, which will provoke a response from Manderley later on.

Shadowed_fury · 4th Mar 2009, 14:55

I have never played this.
But now, I am getting it on steam...

2nd Mar 2009, 14:18	#1
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2nd Mar 2009, 15:36	#2
Tyrmot Multimodder Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: London Posts: 204	What a stupidly good game it was, and remains of course, the only one I bring myself to consistently replay on a regular basis.

2nd Mar 2009, 16:03	#3
delriogw Modder Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 57	thanks for the answer joe, and i have to say i think i gained similar experiences. though my friends weren't really into gaming so i didn't have the discussion element, i thoroughly enjoyed how many times one could go through the game without really playing the same game. yes as you say, the levels were played in the same order, but every time i play i have a different experience, i try different things just to see how it affects the story later on. i must have played through the game half a dozen times, and i still know there's so much more to do. like the previous poster, it is a game i will continue to return to.. so long as i have my ps2, or a computer that supports the pc version (and yes i own it on both formats lol)

2nd Mar 2009, 17:16	#5
Skiddywinks Supermodder Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Caerwys, North Wales Posts: 404	I will never forget how amazing all of my experiences were with Deus Ex. It is the only game that I can not remember how many times I have completed it (Baldur's Gate 2 is in second place on 3 playthroughs). It was that many And each and everytime I have learnt, experienced, and played something different. It is amazing how much thought, care and attention to detail went in to crafting it. It was almost literally heart breaking when I played DE2. Sure, it wasn't a bad game, but it was a horrific sequel. And after reading up on some released details on the new DE, I am not exactly holding my breath for a game that surpasses, or even equals, the original. They sure don't make them like they used to.

2nd Mar 2009, 18:17	#6
phuzz Hypermodder Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bristol, UK Posts: 955	Deus Ex is only £5.99 on Steam. hmm, so is Invisible War, should I?

2nd Mar 2009, 18:21	#7
Skiddywinks Supermodder Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Caerwys, North Wales Posts: 404	So long as you expect to be let down, it is worth playing. But don't expect anything near to the quality of the original.

3rd Mar 2009, 17:09	#12
Bauul Sir Bongaminge Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Godalming, near Guildford Posts: 1,553	First time I played Deus Ex I steadfastly refused to turn against the organisation you work for (Unatco? My memory fails me). Even given all the coroption and evilness, and the game literally begging me to throw off the shackles of 'the man' and go my own way, I stayed on the straight and narrow for AGES. It also meant Anna Navara stayed alive for most of the game as I refused to kill her (she was my boss!). Made for a rather fascinating play through as the game's story was really pushed to the limit, it was amazing at even though I was going way off centre, it still all worked and made perfect sense. __________________ Pentium 4 CPU 3.4 Ghz \| 1Gb + 2x512Mb Corsair DDR2 667 Mhz Sapphire Radeon HD 4770 512Mb\| WD Raptor 36Gb, Seagate 300Gb \| Asus P5LD2 SE Ibanez RG 470 Japanese Edition \| 1991 Japanese Lo-TRS Tremolo \| V7 S1 Custom V8 HSH Pickups

3rd Mar 2009, 18:57	#13
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3rd Mar 2009, 22:36	#15
Zurechial Elitist Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ireland Posts: 883	More than one of the finest games ever made, it's one of the best pieces of fiction ever produced in any medium. It's one of those games I can return to time and time again and ALWAYS find something new in the game that I never saw before, from a hidden room to a new a dialogue path or even something as simple as another newspaper on the ground. On top of all that, with its stiff animations and relatively low-poly models, it's a triumph of content and gameplay over graphics and yet at the same time has its own gritty, immersive visual style that it pulls off beautifully. "You know you've played Deus Ex too much when... You realise you can never play Deus Ex too much." My experience of Deus Ex seems to be almost identical to Joe's, and basically taught me the same things - It's just that good. I'm really enjoying these blogs, they're a great addition to the site. __________________ www.valyr.net Core i7 920 @ 4GHz <-> 8800GTS 512 @ 785/1946/1990 <-> GA-EX58-UD5 <-> 3GB Dominator 1600 <-> Xonar D1

4th Mar 2009, 00:51	#16
TomH Bwahahahahaha Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Salford Posts: 609	Oh my life. Joe, I hate you. I've played through Deus Ex so many times; I've even managed to complete it on 'realistic', without the healing aug or any of the rifle/heavy weapon skills on top of knocking everyone out. Yep, I didn't kill anyone aside from the key characters. But I'm still going to have to go back and kill the guy at the top of Liberty statue: I've always interrogated him! I never knew you could kill him! What have I missed!? And NOT saving Stanton Dowd? Oh my life... Me, and my dissertation, hate you. What a totally epic tribute, to a totally epic game. __________________ Blog: full of inspirational geekism. Maybe. StaffsLUG: Linux users group, Staffordshire.

4th Mar 2009, 13:15	#19
CardJoe Player Character bit-tech Staff Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 7,975	There's loads of hidden stuff. The first time you get to explore the UNATCO base you can barge in on Shannon in the womens toilet for example, which will provoke a response from Manderley later on. __________________ this is joe's non-bit-tech blog

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