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CardJoe · 4th Mar 2009, 12:18

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardwar...-for-x86-cpu/1

It's a question of 'when' rather than 'if' says Nvidia when asked about whether it plans to enter the general purpose processor market.

kenco_uk · 4th Mar 2009, 12:26

Last para, there's a hyperlink that needs fixing.

It would be a shame if they didn't at least consider the server market - it'd really set the relix amongst the cheesecakes.

tejas · 4th Mar 2009, 12:29

About effing time!! I 'll be in line for a couple of Nvidia x86 CPUs for myself and my server business!

Bring it on Nvidia! More competition for struggling AMD and bullying Intel is always a good thing!

Goty · 4th Mar 2009, 12:38

This just in: NVIDIA plans to make eight revisions of the same processor all with different product names, but with identical features and performance.

genesisofthesith · 4th Mar 2009, 13:07

1/Intel announce that they will work with TSMC to allow partners to integrate atom cores into custom products - highly integrated x86 system on chips. It will likely be 2 years down the line before we see products.

2/Nvidia announce they want to make a highly integrated 'nvidia' x86 system-on-chip for lower performance sectors, with a rough start date of two to three years down the line.

It doesn't take a genius to figure out Nvidia are going to be integrating Atom cores into their own system on chips. Theres no need for Nvidia to get an x86 licence as they can now simply licence the cores from intel and integrate them into their products.

p3n · 4th Mar 2009, 13:46

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Originally Posted by tejas

About effing time!! I 'll be in line for a couple of Nvidia x86 CPUs for myself and my server business!

Bring it on Nvidia! More competition for struggling AMD and bullying Intel is always a good thing!

Your gonna use MID chips in your servers? Nice.

Elton · 4th Mar 2009, 13:55

I wonder if AMDs doing anything? My guess is that they already have the ITX thing down.

tejas · 4th Mar 2009, 13:57

hehe maybe I will!! roflmao!

Seriously tho I meant if Nvidia make proper x86 CPUs and not just netbook level stuff. Of course if that does not happen then I am still happy to wait for AMD Istanbul 6 cores for my servers hehe

UncertainGod · 4th Mar 2009, 14:29

Don't they need to get there hands on a licence to manufacture x86 compatible cpu's?

DarkLord7854 · 4th Mar 2009, 14:41

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Originally Posted by Goty

This just in: NVIDIA plans to make eight revisions of the same processor all with different product names, but with identical features and performance.

I was thinking just that

Dr. Strangelove · 4th Mar 2009, 15:03

Hmm two thoughts came to mind:
Nvidia: "The CPU is Dead.. Long live the CPU (made by NVIDIA)"

and

Nvidia: "The CPU is dead what you need is a GPU with a few CPU capabilities"
Intel: "The GPU is dead what you need is a CPU with GPU capabilities"

The question is.. would AMD not be perfectly positioned to make something in between that might actually work?

ParaHelix.org · 4th Mar 2009, 15:45

More compotition, go for it.

Goty · 4th Mar 2009, 16:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Strangelove

Hmm two thoughts came to mind:
Nvidia: "The CPU is Dead.. Long live the CPU (made by NVIDIA)"

and

Nvidia: "The CPU is dead what you need is a GPU with a few CPU capabilities"
Intel: "The GPU is dead what you need is a CPU with GPU capabilities"

The question is.. would AMD not be perfectly positioned to make something in between that might actually work?

AMD's fusion initiative is aimed at exactly this same spot, it just hasn't been in the new much lately.

n3mo · 4th Mar 2009, 18:12

I'd rather see Via in the high-end market than nVidia in low end/embedded market. While the competition is a good thing, I'm not sure if there will be any this way. nVidia will just buy chips from Intel and integrate them into own designs. (and continue selling the same thing under ten names

) Anyway, it will still break my "no-Intel" policy so it doesn't make me excited.

HourBeforeDawn · 4th Mar 2009, 19:53

the whole reason they want to make a "cpu" is because a few factors one being ray tracing, which is where on graphics side of the market AMD/ATI and Intel will have an advantage and why nVidia always bad mouthed it because they didnt have the tech to add to their GPUs and the other is the hybrid market, there are probably other reasons but those are the two main ones that I can see, I dont really see them getting into the CPU market to make CPUs for desktops and servers but to gain that side of the tech for their graphics cards and maybe at most the ITX market like their "ION".

azrael- · 4th Mar 2009, 22:19

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Originally Posted by p3n

Quote:

Originally Posted by tejas

About effing time!! I 'll be in line for a couple of Nvidia x86 CPUs for myself and my server business!

Bring it on Nvidia! More competition for struggling AMD and bullying Intel is always a good thing!

Your gonna use MID chips in your servers? Nice.

I'd rather phrase it this way: Would you put CPUs from a company with known chip designing issues (underfill issues, anyone?) into mission-critical servers? No, I thought not...

DeX · 4th Mar 2009, 23:38

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Originally Posted by kenco_uk

It would be a shame if they didn't at least consider the server market - it'd really set the relix amongst the cheesecakes.

It made no sense but, Best Metaphor Ever.

wuyanxu · 5th Mar 2009, 01:13

why do they need a license to build x86 chips?? Intel owns the x86 instruction set?

bridgesentry · 5th Mar 2009, 02:24

It's the time to combine CPU with GPU, one-chip is always the cheapest solution + physX capability right? Mobile gaming systems really need it.

HourBeforeDawn · 5th Mar 2009, 02:35

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Originally Posted by bridgesentry

It's the time to combine CPU with GPU, onechip is always the cheapest solution + physX capability right? Mobile gaming systems really needs it.

people can stop mentioning physX come next year it will be dead anyways lol thats why you havent seen it converted to be true gpu processing instead its being simulated with CUDA, they just wont admit that its going on its way out.

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tejas Multimodder Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 94	About effing time!! I 'll be in line for a couple of Nvidia x86 CPUs for myself and my server business! Bring it on Nvidia! More competition for struggling AMD and bullying Intel is always a good thing!

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tejas Multimodder Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 94	hehe maybe I will!! roflmao! Seriously tho I meant if Nvidia make proper x86 CPUs and not just netbook level stuff. Of course if that does not happen then I am still happy to wait for AMD Istanbul 6 cores for my servers hehe

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Dr. Strangelove Supermodder Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Dundee Posts: 306	Hmm two thoughts came to mind: Nvidia: "The CPU is Dead.. Long live the CPU (made by NVIDIA)" and Nvidia: "The CPU is dead what you need is a GPU with a few CPU capabilities" Intel: "The GPU is dead what you need is a CPU with GPU capabilities" The question is.. would AMD not be perfectly positioned to make something in between that might actually work? __________________ If it isn’t broken, fix it. If it is broken, mod it till it looks like it's meant to be broken.

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n3mo Multimodder Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 184	I'd rather see Via in the high-end market than nVidia in low end/embedded market. While the competition is a good thing, I'm not sure if there will be any this way. nVidia will just buy chips from Intel and integrate them into own designs. (and continue selling the same thing under ten names ) Anyway, it will still break my "no-Intel" policy so it doesn't make me excited.

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HourBeforeDawn a.k.a KazeModz Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Cali, USA Posts: 1,794	the whole reason they want to make a "cpu" is because a few factors one being ray tracing, which is where on graphics side of the market AMD/ATI and Intel will have an advantage and why nVidia always bad mouthed it because they didnt have the tech to add to their GPUs and the other is the hybrid market, there are probably other reasons but those are the two main ones that I can see, I dont really see them getting into the CPU market to make CPUs for desktops and servers but to gain that side of the tech for their graphics cards and maybe at most the ITX market like their "ION". __________________ Current Rig: RubyRED • Lian-Li A05B • (2) Swiftech 220 Radiators • (2) D5 Variable Pumps • (2) Res • and a whole lot of modding • Retired Rig: Project F.E.A.R. • TT Lanbox Lite • Swiftech H2O-120 • Q6600 G0 OC@3.6ghz • 2900XT • 4gb SuperTalent Memory •

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