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Old 17th Mar 2009, 00:41   #41
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those ikea boxes are usually pretty flimsy, will the computer be safe inside? the fit/finish looks perfect so far though, besides that one extra hole.
The aluminium profiles are very helpful with that problem. Further, when all components are inside helps too. I will make an extra hole only if the temperature increases much more after intensive use.
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Old 19th Mar 2009, 02:25   #42
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Sata controller won't fit properly due to aluminium profile is blocking it, I cuted it to avoid this.















The PSU wires are too short, they must be changed.





Dust!


More dust.








The fan is temperature controlled using this circuit.


Power cables are desoldered to work more comfortably




Dusty!


My desoldering "kit"


Ground cables desoldered


There are few to finish


A drawer with a lot of wires.


This is a died antec psu (yes, antec dies too), I want to reuse the mobo power cable


The wires diameter are wide.


And the mobo power cable too


The modular connectors seems to be very interesting for an other project




All wires desoldered








Antec cadaver.


I made a test to see if the cable fits well.








Seems to fit good, but maybe it's a bit wide.
This is the diameter of the original PSU cable.


This one is from a generic psu


And this is the antec cable


Antec cable may be too wide, which would you use? a generic one or antec's?
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I think if you sleeve the generic cable you might add a fair bit of thickness. But I'd roll with that one anyway :P
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Really good work so far!

Just one question, why dont you use a pci riser with a 90 degree angle with the sata controller? Then you could close the box without problems.

Keep up the good work!
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this may be a dumb question, but what's the harm in just adding wire in the middle and splicing those together? Is that bad for the PSu?

And to be honest - man you have b@lls of steel as I would be dirtying my drawers if I was to attempt rewiring completely a PSU (me EL noob)
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I got all nervous just by changing the fan on my PSU, you must have some real guts (or knowhow, both are good).
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Antec cable may be too wide, which would you use? a generic one or antec's?
Tnh, Antec cable seems too long, or maybe I am just misunderstanding the pics... Looks like you are leading it round the motherboard before plugging it in. shorten it so it will go straight to the power connector.

Like someone else said, after sleeving the other cable you will be close tot he width of the antec cable anyways. Why not sortof flatten the cable - instead of having one round bunch of wires, have 2 or 3 flat rows of wires... I always find flat cables easier to route anyways.

Still looking fantasic btw!
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And to be honest - man you have b@lls of steel as I would be dirtying my drawers if I was to attempt rewiring completely a PSU (me EL noob)
oh yeah, +1!
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Antec cable may be too wide, which would you use? a generic one or antec's?
I would sleeve the generic cable, it would save some space.

You daring enough to solder the power cable to the back of the motherboard, it would solve cable routing problems. And move you into the halls of legends! lol!

Even if you solder a power connector so the board can be removed easily.
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this may be a dumb question, but what's the harm in just adding wire in the middle and splicing those together? Is that bad for the PSu?

And to be honest - man you have b@lls of steel as I would be dirtying my drawers if I was to attempt rewiring completely a PSU (me EL noob)
@logan'srun - One splice to cut cables short is fine, as it will only affect the cables resistance by a totally trivial amount, we're talking 0.00003%-0.00005% difference, not even enough to make a jitter. That is of course assuming the soldering is almost perfect. I would not however splice in two places to make the cable longer, since that will significantly reduce voltage quality on the lines themselves. PSU modding is not as bad as it looks. Yes there are a lot of wires, you really just need to know where each one goes. And you are really only dealing with several voltages, i.e. 3.3V, 5V, and 12V and of course ground lines. Of course you also have different polarizations as well, i.e. -3.3V, +3.3v, etc. So overall it may look scary, but the main thing here is soldering skill, not knowledge of how the PSU operates (which is fairly easy to learn). The only reason I would not desolder directly from the PCB on the PSU is that it really will not make a difference quality or performance wise, just more aesthetically pleasing that is all. Here is an example of when I sleeved and shortened my Seasonic 500w M12.

As you can see here, I decided to splice mine to avoid messing up the beautiful soldering work on the Seasonic PCB. They are absolute genuineness when it comes to a clean PCB and layout of a PSU. Also, it took my about 8 hours to sleeve everything in here. Here are some Pics:

@cmd_ - BTW looking good on the NAS box bruh. I like the way you have been able to fit everything into that tiny box so far, very efficient and well thought out. Keep up the good work

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Really good work so far!

Just one question, why dont you use a pci riser with a 90 degree angle with the sata controller? Then you could close the box without problems.

Keep up the good work!
I've a pci riser, but is useless because its as taller as the sata controller.

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Htr-Labs Thanks for your explanation about psu stuff.

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Thank's all for the suggestions.
Finally I decided to use a sleeved generic cable. I've replaced the psu connectors because the psu generic atx connector had 20pin and the motherboard has 24pin.



With this tool the job was easy.






This is the original 24pin atx connector rady to be rewired.


1st wire.


One side completed.


All fitted.


Now the sleeving job.






Using a cable tie to keep all the wires together.






Danger! a hot-gun






~11mm


Occupies less space than the antec cable.










I use this modified gas compressor to blow air for cleaning purposes


Finally there is no dust.




Poor tiny cable, need to be replaced










This sata connectors does not have +3.3v line


An additional cable add +3.3v to the sata connectors


Ready to be plugged, but not now.


The other long cables.


I decided to clean the psu case.








And now, what all you were waiting for, the soldering process.




Soldered all wires except the main lines.




Only remains the ground line.




All soldered, sata wires still not sleeved.








Sata wires sleeved.










First test


Works!



I will put sata connectors to the cables when I'll know the final position of the hard drives.
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Wow.
Just, WOW!
All that soldering and you get right straight off the bat.

Amazing.
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Yeah, I won't be attempting anything like this any time soon.
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haha, nice to see the final death of the molex plug! YAY!
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Lovely work. Just keeping the 24pin plug organized would drive me crazy. To solder the whole thing back on the PSU is wild!
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Whow, impressive! Really, i dont think i ever will do that, except for meshing psu's.
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WOW!!! Great work so far. Cant wait to see the rest of your work on this project.
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Lovely work. Just keeping the 24pin plug organized would drive me crazy. To solder the whole thing back on the PSU is wild!

It's not really so bad considering you really only have 3 voltages (+/-) to worry about. Also the odd colored wires are mostly for report/ground. Soldering is the hardest part, since a lot of PCB's now use Lead free solder, you have to have an iron or mini torch that can melt that damn industrial strength crap they use.

@cmd_- Very good job on keeping everything neat and getting it working again. No doubt, working on a PSU is not for the faint of heart.
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Excellent workmanship, photography and logging! All together very well thought out and presented!! I like A LOT!!!

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