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Tim S · 29th Apr 2009, 09:14

http://www.bit-tech.net/bits/2009/04...intelligence/1

The exponential rise in computing power has led to many big steps forward in the world of Artificial Intelligence. Mark Mackay examines some of the research that is being done in this area and looks at what the future might hold for all of us.

Joeymac · 29th Apr 2009, 09:20

That image is actually of "No.1"... he was a dumb robot.

A picture of the proper J5 would be more apt.

talladega · 29th Apr 2009, 09:31

Johnny 5 still alive!

TESCO-Zsömle · 29th Apr 2009, 09:34

I know, thats a tag but "Don't they fear from it??". I mean everybody see the "Terminator series" or the "I Robot". What's the bond, that if we give the controll of the weaponary (that "we" created to kill each other) to a superintelligent computer ('who' makes killing more effective), that won't kill us??

Killing humanity is the most logical choise in favour of Earth. (And a comuter is only logic. Nothing more. No intuitions, no hope, no fear, no mercy...)

Hell!! The biggest danger to humanity is humanity itself...

(Sorry for my englis, and for my demagogy, but somebody needs to think about that.)

Krikkit · 29th Apr 2009, 10:07

What a fascinating article, and brilliantly written to boot!

HugoB · 29th Apr 2009, 10:09

No mention of IMB's Deep Blue and Watson? Nor of ELIZA, ALICE etc or the Turing Test? Really?

What's there's well and informatively written, but there's so much more to cover!

theevilelephant · 29th Apr 2009, 10:16

An interesting read, but as mentioned above, it is a huge topic and there is so much more to write about! I hope you get round to writing some more stuff like this.

Also here is my universities version of the lab robot mentioned,
http://www.livescience.com/technolog...scientist.html
video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IY1sPV9e9H0

bridgesentry · 29th Apr 2009, 10:27

He built a 30-quad-core CPU rig, just to gambling, I think this is only a waste of energy. You know, calculating billions of "if...then..." states that 99% never actually happen

Gunsmith · 29th Apr 2009, 10:51

WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE A PEPPER TOO?

joking aside Ive always loved the concept of AI, even though the speilberg film back in 01 was utter tripe.

mclintox · 29th Apr 2009, 11:32

Enjoyable article but,"I need more input!"

perplekks45 · 29th Apr 2009, 13:07

Agree with TESCO-Zsömle:

Anybody seen Eagle Eye?

Very interesting read... the first 2 pages at least, didn't have time to read the rest yet.

Zurechial · 29th Apr 2009, 17:46

No Wintermute and Neuromancer?! For Shame!

Great article, I enjoyed that.
Like HugoB says, though, there's so much more to the topic that could be mentioned.
A follow-up article would be very welcome.

OleJ · 29th Apr 2009, 18:54

Great article. Thank you

Omnituens · 29th Apr 2009, 18:55

NO-VA!

Turbotab · 29th Apr 2009, 19:18

I wonder if the real future, will involve the embedding of computer technology into the human brain, allowing us to combine the huge data processing power of the CPU, with our capacity for abstract thought. Now that would be a potent combination!

VipersGratitude · 29th Apr 2009, 19:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by HugoB

No mention of IMB's Deep Blue and Watson? Nor of ELIZA, ALICE etc or the Turing Test? Really?

What's there's well and informatively written, but there's so much more to cover!

Exactly!

Like how about some actual data, for instance:

The highest current estimate for the computational power of the brain is 10 to the 16th computations per second. According to Moores law we'll have this for $1,000 in 2020, and for $1 in 2030...and storage - where a 1 neuron is equivalent to 1 bit - circa 300Tb.

Now, that's just hardware...it's our software that gives us intelligence. Given that it's only recently that computational power reached a critical point to allow biology to become a digital science (on par with chemistry and physics) and that it's increasing exponentially I see no reason why our understanding of biological processes shouldn't be sufficient to create intelligent life relatively soon.

cyrilthefish · 29th Apr 2009, 23:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by VipersGratitude

Exactly!

Like how about some actual data, for instance:

The highest current estimate for the computational power of the brain is 10 to the 16th computations per second. According to Moores law we'll have this for $1,000 in 2020, and for $1 in 2030...and storage - where a 1 neuron is equivalent to 1 bit - circa 300Tb.

Now, that's just hardware...it's our software that gives us intelligence. Given that it's only recently that computational power reached a critical point to allow biology to become a digital science (on par with chemistry and physics) and that it's increasing exponentially I see no reason why our understanding of biological processes shouldn't be sufficient to create intelligent life relatively soon.

It's interesting for the future though.

It's just a matter of time before computing power is enough to 'emulate' a human brain (just need to work out the software and how to download the data)

Once that happens that opens the floodgates to all kinds of interesting possibilities

(okay okay, i read too much science fiction, i can see it happening though, only 'when' is the question)

Just imagine if you could quicksave/quickload your brain, restore from backups...

HourBeforeDawn · 29th Apr 2009, 23:40

I LOVE SHORT CIRCUITS!!!!

Its what got me into Robotics as a kid, so awesome I have the original tapes still and the DVDs ^__^

Faulk_Wulf · 30th Apr 2009, 04:23

So the singularity is Ghost in the Shell -> Armitage -> Terminator -> Matrix? In that order?

HugoB · 30th Apr 2009, 10:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by VipersGratitude

Now, that's just hardware...it's our software that gives us intelligence. Given that it's only recently that computational power reached a critical point to allow biology to become a digital science (on par with chemistry and physics) and that it's increasing exponentially I see no reason why our understanding of biological processes shouldn't be sufficient to create intelligent life relatively soon.

You're making some rash assumptions. So far as we know, the brain doesn't work like so simple a way as one neuron equating to one bit in a hard drive or one transistor in a CPU. It isn't a fixed form or function device.

There's a level of redundancy in the brain we're nowhere near emulating in silicon, too. I'd like to see a computer where you could rip out half of its components and the rest would re-wire to compensate. Although I suppose you could slightly analogise with a dual-CPU set-up - call the northbridge the corpus callosum and take each CPU as a hemisphere. Given appropriate design and software, it would - theoretically - be possible to disable one core without killing the PC. But as the brain is the CPU, hard drive and RAM all made out of the same components, we're still a long way from any soft of appropriate model. The idea that the brain evolved in (at least) RAID 1 does rather amuse me, though.

And that's just the hardware. The 'software' we run on is far less decipherable.

Until we understand exactly how the brain and mind do work we've no hope of emulating them. Biology is far from a digital science yet.

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29th Apr 2009, 09:20	#2
Joeymac Multimodder Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 221	That image is actually of "No.1"... he was a dumb robot. A picture of the proper J5 would be more apt.

29th Apr 2009, 09:34	#4
TESCO-Zsömle What's a Dremel? Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 17	I know, thats a tag but "Don't they fear from it??". I mean everybody see the "Terminator series" or the "I Robot". What's the bond, that if we give the controll of the weaponary (that "we" created to kill each other) to a superintelligent computer ('who' makes killing more effective), that won't kill us?? Killing humanity is the most logical choise in favour of Earth. (And a comuter is only logic. Nothing more. No intuitions, no hope, no fear, no mercy...) Hell!! The biggest danger to humanity is humanity itself... (Sorry for my englis, and for my demagogy, but somebody needs to think about that.)

29th Apr 2009, 10:16	#7
theevilelephant Bit-tech's Heffalump Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Aberystwyth Posts: 797	An interesting read, but as mentioned above, it is a huge topic and there is so much more to write about! I hope you get round to writing some more stuff like this. Also here is my universities version of the lab robot mentioned, http://www.livescience.com/technolog...scientist.html video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IY1sPV9e9H0

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