Red Faction: Guerrilla Review - bit-tech.net Forums

Tim S · 13th Jun 2009, 10:28

http://www.bit-tech.net/gaming/ps3/2...rilla-review/1

From the makers of Crackdown comes a new Red Faction game where you can destroy anything you see. Is it just a simple gimmick to support an otherwise boring game, or is it just another reason that you should take a look at this Martian revolution? We find out!

BioSniper · 13th Jun 2009, 11:12

Price typo, it says £9.99 for the UK price

Mentai · 13th Jun 2009, 11:19

Looks like a nice distraction before Dragon Age comes out, might pick this up.

Thanks for the review

Tim S · 13th Jun 2009, 11:24

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Originally Posted by BioSniper

Price typo, it says £9.99 for the UK price

ta

capnPedro · 13th Jun 2009, 11:59

Looks OK, but I'll wait to see if the PC version just turns out to be a crappy console port.

Question: if a Transformer ran on an Ethanol fuel-mix then would it get drunk?
Answer: No, the ethanol would be combusted (oxidised into CO₂ and H₂O), rather than metabolised. Also, circuits, dude, it's made of circuits, does you watercooled rig get drunk off the ethylene glycol?

Alternate answer: No, because Transformers aren't lightweight drinkers.

sear · 13th Jun 2009, 14:35

Wait, the PC version is delayed?

Again?

Oh **** this, it's suicide time.

lp1988 · 13th Jun 2009, 14:51

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Originally Posted by sear

Wait, the PC version is delayed?
Again?
Oh **** this, it's suicide time.

look at the bright side, if they use more time to finish it, it may not end up as a bad port, but I might just be dremaming here

Mentai · 13th Jun 2009, 15:17

The way I see it is this way you know the general quality of a game before it comes out, so you can preorder relatively safely and get whatever discounts that includes. So it's not all bad, although for games you know you want it's terrible, it felt like forever waiting for Mass Effect.

Cupboard · 13th Jun 2009, 16:42

There is always going to be a problem with a game where you can knock down meter-thick concrete walls with a sledgehammer - you are far too overpowered. Considering they have to make the enemies reasonably powerful, they have to be massively overpowered too in order to be able to withstand a hit from what essentially amounts to a wrecking crane.

At this point, weapons also have to become ridiculous and the game loses all credibility.

I think it would be better if they toned the player down a bit - it is good having destructible environments but we how about walls that will collapse if a tank drives through them, and when cars crash into wall they might destroy the wall but themselves too. Then you can re-balance the enemies and the world will be a much happier place

Joe - by the sounds of things from the front page your girlfriend approves of you playing Leisure Suit Larry?

Veles · 13th Jun 2009, 17:53

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Originally Posted by Cupboard

There is always going to be a problem with a game where you can knock down meter-thick concrete walls with a sledgehammer - you are far too overpowered. Considering they have to make the enemies reasonably powerful, they have to be massively overpowered too in order to be able to withstand a hit from what essentially amounts to a wrecking crane.

At this point, weapons also have to become ridiculous and the game loses all credibility.

Have you actually played it? The enemies don't withstand a hit from it, it's a 1 hit kill weapon. It's also a melee weapon, so you have to run up to them to kill them with it. Which often means you run up to them while getting shot, and after you've killed the guy, there's 5 other guys surrounding you blasting you to pieces.

pimonserry · 13th Jun 2009, 18:11

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... but it’s still more fun than jumping into a swimming pool full of jelly and trying to rescue some drowning supermodels.

That good huh? I might have to get it then

wafflesomd · 13th Jun 2009, 18:59

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Originally Posted by Cupboard

There is always going to be a problem with a game where you can knock down meter-thick concrete walls with a sledgehammer - you are far too overpowered. Considering they have to make the enemies reasonably powerful, they have to be massively overpowered too in order to be able to withstand a hit from what essentially amounts to a wrecking crane.

At this point, weapons also have to become ridiculous and the game loses all credibility.

A powerful melee weapon bothers you that much?

DarkLord7854 · 13th Jun 2009, 21:36

I have quite a few issues with the physics, I was taking down a giant 4 story building, the entire lobby was gone and I couldn't figure out why the building wasn't coming down.. turns out there was a tiny 2" thick metal support, so thin I had trouble actually aiming at it, took it out, whole building collapsed on top of me and I only took a tiny bit of damage.

I wish it had co-op though, would be much more entertaining to take out bridges with 2 people.

Also it's kind of a shame that once buildings/bridges are destroyed, they're gone forever.

Skiddywinks · 13th Jun 2009, 21:52

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Originally Posted by DarkLord7854

I have quite a few issues with the physics, I was taking down a giant 4 story building, the entire lobby was gone and I couldn't figure out why the building wasn't coming down.. turns out there was a tiny 2" thick metal support, so thin I had trouble actually aiming at it, took it out, whole building collapsed on top of me and I only took a tiny bit of damage.

I wish it had co-op though, would be much more entertaining to take out bridges with 2 people.

Also it's kind of a shame that once buildings/bridges are destroyed, they're gone forever.

People would be complaining about them respawning otherwise. I for one don't want any more FC2-esque check points!

DarkLord7854 · 14th Jun 2009, 05:09

It seems bridges randomly respawn.. and certain EDF buildings get rebuilt..

Anyways, I'm having a major issue.. I cannot find any walkers. It's really ticking me off, I found 2 or 3 of the light walkers and 2 missile walkers during the campaign, and I finished the campaign, and now I can't find any of them. I haven't even used the Heavy walker outside of the mission.

Anyone else having this issue? People keep saying they're all over the place, I've been methodically combing the map back and forth to try and find one, not finding anything. This also goes for tanks and stuff. It's really ticking me off >.<

Cobalt · 14th Jun 2009, 12:36

capnPedro: metabolism and combustion are similar processes operating on different time scales. However it is not the release of energy from ethanol which results in inebriation, rather, ethanol itself is a psychoactive substance. As we do not know exactly how transformers work (they may have semi-organic components or sensors) it is possible that ethanol could have similar effects on them. Though this is more likely due to the creation of parity errors in their software than the suppression of neuro-receptors.

capnPedro · 14th Jun 2009, 16:26

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Originally Posted by Cobalt

capnPedro: metabolism and combustion are similar processes operating on different time scales. However it is not the release of energy from ethanol which results in inebriation, rather, ethanol itself is a psychoactive substance. As we do not know exactly how transformers work (they may have semi-organic components or sensors) it is possible that ethanol could have similar effects on them. Though this is more likely due to the creation of parity errors in their software than the suppression of neuro-receptors.

+rep for this!

13th Jun 2009, 10:28	#1
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13th Jun 2009, 16:42	#9
Cupboard I'm not a modder. Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Bury St Edmunds/Durham Uni Posts: 1,845	There is always going to be a problem with a game where you can knock down meter-thick concrete walls with a sledgehammer - you are far too overpowered. Considering they have to make the enemies reasonably powerful, they have to be massively overpowered too in order to be able to withstand a hit from what essentially amounts to a wrecking crane. At this point, weapons also have to become ridiculous and the game loses all credibility. I think it would be better if they toned the player down a bit - it is good having destructible environments but we how about walls that will collapse if a tank drives through them, and when cars crash into wall they might destroy the wall but themselves too. Then you can re-balance the enemies and the world will be a much happier place Joe - by the sounds of things from the front page your girlfriend approves of you playing Leisure Suit Larry? __________________ i7 920, 8800GTS 512, 6GB Corsair all in an Intel DX58SO; 3*320GB RAID5; CM Stacker Samsung Q45.

13th Jun 2009, 21:36	#13
DarkLord7854 Web Developer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: West Palm Beach, Florida Posts: 3,838	I have quite a few issues with the physics, I was taking down a giant 4 story building, the entire lobby was gone and I couldn't figure out why the building wasn't coming down.. turns out there was a tiny 2" thick metal support, so thin I had trouble actually aiming at it, took it out, whole building collapsed on top of me and I only took a tiny bit of damage. I wish it had co-op though, would be much more entertaining to take out bridges with 2 people. Also it's kind of a shame that once buildings/bridges are destroyed, they're gone forever. __________________ Current Computer: eVGA 780i Motherboard \| Q6600 Core2Quad \| eVGA GTX260 896Mbs 216-core \| 2x Seagate 500Gbs \| 8Gbs OCZ Platinum DDR2 800 \| Creative XtremeGamer X-Fi \| Thermaltake Armor Case Custom WordPress, ZenCart, Joomla, vBulletin, etc installs and skinning, PM/E-Mail for a quote

13th Jun 2009, 11:19	#3
Mentai Supermodder Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: New Zealand Posts: 492	Looks like a nice distraction before Dragon Age comes out, might pick this up. Thanks for the review

13th Jun 2009, 14:35	#6
sear Multimodder Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 120	Wait, the PC version is delayed? Again? Oh **** this, it's suicide time.

13th Jun 2009, 15:17	#8
Mentai Supermodder Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: New Zealand Posts: 492	The way I see it is this way you know the general quality of a game before it comes out, so you can preorder relatively safely and get whatever discounts that includes. So it's not all bad, although for games you know you want it's terrible, it felt like forever waiting for Mass Effect.

14th Jun 2009, 05:09	#15
DarkLord7854 Web Developer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: West Palm Beach, Florida Posts: 3,838	It seems bridges randomly respawn.. and certain EDF buildings get rebuilt.. Anyways, I'm having a major issue.. I cannot find any walkers. It's really ticking me off, I found 2 or 3 of the light walkers and 2 missile walkers during the campaign, and I finished the campaign, and now I can't find any of them. I haven't even used the Heavy walker outside of the mission. Anyone else having this issue? People keep saying they're all over the place, I've been methodically combing the map back and forth to try and find one, not finding anything. This also goes for tanks and stuff. It's really ticking me off >.< __________________ Current Computer: eVGA 780i Motherboard \| Q6600 Core2Quad \| eVGA GTX260 896Mbs 216-core \| 2x Seagate 500Gbs \| 8Gbs OCZ Platinum DDR2 800 \| Creative XtremeGamer X-Fi \| Thermaltake Armor Case Custom WordPress, ZenCart, Joomla, vBulletin, etc installs and skinning, PM/E-Mail for a quote

14th Jun 2009, 12:36	#16
Cobalt Multimodder Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Surrey, UK Posts: 248	capnPedro: metabolism and combustion are similar processes operating on different time scales. However it is not the release of energy from ethanol which results in inebriation, rather, ethanol itself is a psychoactive substance. As we do not know exactly how transformers work (they may have semi-organic components or sensors) it is possible that ethanol could have similar effects on them. Though this is more likely due to the creation of parity errors in their software than the suppression of neuro-receptors.