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Old 16th Jun 2009, 14:49   #1
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Toshiba claims 16nm breakthrough

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/bits/20...breakthrough/1

Toshiba believes it has answered one of the major problems with using strontium germanide in the production of 16nm process size chips.

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stropy germans wot?
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Old 16th Jun 2009, 16:46   #3
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surplus giblets not?
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That is quite AMAZING! 16nm from 32nm that's a 50% reduction in one go!

From a Physicists perspective this is quite astounding.
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"Although the technology is confined to the lab at present"

When will we see the chips?

Place your bets

1 year - 100/1
2 years - 10/1
3 years - evens
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Isitari: the reason the breakthrough is significant is not for a jump from 32nm to 16nm (the manufacturers still are planning to scale down to 22nm first), but because it was previously thought to be impossible to construct a 16nm chip using standard bulk CMOS processes that are in use across the board today, due to quantum effects. Now there is another manufacturing process breather before materials other than substrates etched on silicon are needed.
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That's nothing like the chips ive seen which were OVER 9000nm !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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It's Stroggnium Germacide, used in Quake 4 for crafting new Stroggos fighters, duh
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IMO graphene is currently the most interesting material, as it will allow CPU designers to ramp up the GHz. Until the software devs can (if) create programs that will utilise the upcoming many core designs, more hertz, as any gamer will attest, is the way to go. Just imagine for a second, a multi-core CPU running at 10s or 100s of GHz............
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Toshiba makes chips.. news to me.
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the cell chip in the PS3 was partly developed by toshiba. not sure what else they're into though.
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Strontium Germanide? Sounds like something the Red Skull would be working on to kill Nick Fury with.
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It's Stroggnium Germacide, used in Quake 4 for crafting new Stroggos fighters, duh
I never bothered to play Q4.. as it felt very much like Doom 3, but thanks for the re-adjustment ;o)

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Toshiba is one of the world leaders in semi-conductors.
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CMOS are also found in a wide range of products including cameras and camcorders.
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Toshiba is obsolete. They are making only 16nm when there is already 32nm. Two times the nm! And I want MOAR!!11
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Toshiba is obsolete. They are making only 16nm when there is already 32nm. Two times the nm! And I want MOAR!!11
not to burst your bubble, but 16nm is better, AS IS smaller, which means on the same die you have more transistors hence MOAR power....euh..read the fricking article
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Toshiba is obsolete. They are making only 16nm when there is already 32nm. Two times the nm! And I want MOAR!!11
Ok, come in, grab a seat, and get comfortable, you are with friends and we will teach you.

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