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Tim S · 20th Jun 2009, 09:58

http://www.bit-tech.net/bits/events/...factory-tour/1

We took a trip to DongGuan, China, to not only take a nose around Seasonic's Factory, but understand the details of its engineering philosophy too. Want to know where your power supplies come from? Take a look to find out.

yakyb · 20th Jun 2009, 10:13

great read for a saturday morning

i do lik those flat cables didnt know so much work went into them

capnPedro · 20th Jun 2009, 10:32

Oh man, those stools look uncomfortable!

Dr. Strangelove · 20th Jun 2009, 11:10

That was a nice read! although I could not find the guy in a box :-(

also what is wave soldering?

NethLyn · 20th Jun 2009, 11:28

Best feature I've read on the site since joining up, and good timing with the PSU labs in Issue 71. I've got two Seasonic PCs rebranded by A***c and to cut a short story shorter, you wire them up, switch them on, they just work day in day out, have sailed through their first year without cutouts or other power-related incidents, have survived surges and the smaller of the two, draws just 100W from the wall with a non-performance graphics card- for just 2D work in a Socket A machine, I don't want to use any more.

lewchenko · 20th Jun 2009, 11:55

My last 3, if not 4 PSU's have been Seasonic. I had no idea where they came from , nor cared.

However, that got me thinking after reading this article.... are there any PSU's (that are decent) still made in the UK ?

Bindibadgi · 20th Jun 2009, 12:02

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Originally Posted by lewchenko

My last 3, if not 4 PSU's have been Seasonic. I had no idea where they came from , nor cared.

However, that got me thinking after reading this article.... are there any PSU's (that are decent) still made in the UK ?

Made in the UK? Made

None, never. Everything is done in the far east.

wuyanxu · 20th Jun 2009, 12:19

all of them are hand made?! i thought it's all done on an assembly line with a couple machines.

my Corsair Hx620 is a Seasonic built unit right?

Bindibadgi · 20th Jun 2009, 12:31

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Originally Posted by wuyanxu

all of them are hand made?! i thought it's all done on an assembly line with a couple machines.

my Corsair Hx620 is a Seasonic built unit right?

First goes through the SMT machine, then the rest is hand installed.

It's mostly mechanically soldered, but there are some inevitable hand touchups - the better ones are engineered to have as minimal as possible.

HX620 - ya.

Jipa · 20th Jun 2009, 12:54

Didn't really read it through, but looking at the pictures it just rises one question: How come I'm yet to find any black hair in a PSU :P

WildThing · 20th Jun 2009, 13:55

Very good read! I'm always interested in what's going on behind the scenes at these places.

capnPedro · 20th Jun 2009, 14:26

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Originally Posted by Jipa

Didn't really read it through, but looking at the pictures it just rises one question: How come I'm yet to find any black hair in a PSU :P

Quality control!

GregTheRotter · 20th Jun 2009, 18:02

It seems you were using the popup flash in your shots because of the enormous shadow in a fair few of the shots

Other than that, interesting read

C-Sniper · 20th Jun 2009, 18:24

Great read, I always enjoy looking at how things are made behind the scenes.

Looks like I will be sticking with corsair for a while too. My 620HX has yet to even hiccup.

dicobalt · 20th Jun 2009, 18:25

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Seasonic also claims this to make it greener than every other PSU company: instead of pandering to a typically "disposable" tech industry mantra, by investing in a core PSU for longer and only changing the cables it means less waste. I do like this noble idea, however, if products like netbooks have shown us anything, people are less inclined to spend more money on a single lasting product because the act of upgrading and buying a shiny new thing is infectious. Unless Seasonic can guarantee future compatibility we're not sure how many people will bite for this selling angle.

I go for this angle. Also, I have a 300W PcPower&Cooling psu from 1995 that still works, I paid alot for it, but then I haven't had to buy 3 peice of crap replacements since then. I have had to deal with PSU failures from every PSU I have ever tried except PcPower&Cooling. I don't buy anything else, because they all fail. I dont use air conditioning, I'm in hot temps here in south florida, and some machines I sent to sonora mexico. If the PSU was not PcPower&Cooling, they all failed. I am sick and tired of crappy power supplies because they mean downtime which means loss of money. Downtime costs me much more then the price difference of a crappy PSU vs one that was properly engineered, manufactured, and tested. Stop building crap all you cheap ass ghettotronic companies.

Sifter3000 · 20th Jun 2009, 18:31

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Originally Posted by dicobalt

ghettotronic

That'd be an awesome name for a components company

thehippoz · 20th Jun 2009, 18:32

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Originally Posted by Jipa

Didn't really read it through, but looking at the pictures it just rises one question: How come I'm yet to find any black hair in a PSU :P

red hairs only

Bindibadgi · 20th Jun 2009, 18:41

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Originally Posted by dicobalt

I go for this angle. Also, I have a 300W PcPower&Cooling psu from 1995 that still works, I paid alot for it, but then I haven't had to buy 3 peice of crap replacements since then. I have had to deal with PSU failures from every PSU I have ever tried except PcPower&Cooling. I don't buy anything else, because they all fail. I dont use air conditioning, I'm in hot temps here in south florida, and some machines I sent to sonora mexico. If the PSU was not PcPower&Cooling, they all failed. I am sick and tired of crappy power supplies because they mean downtime which means loss of money. Downtime costs me much more then the price difference of a crappy PSU vs one that was properly engineered, manufactured, and tested. Stop building crap all you cheap ass ghettotronic companies.

PC Power and Cooling Silencer?

Guess who makes it...

Bindibadgi · 20th Jun 2009, 18:41

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Originally Posted by *mat-ster*

The ISO certificates displayed are the old ones replaced by ISO 9001:2000 which will be replaced by ISO 9001:2008.
Bindi you may want to tell them to change them......!

Their 2009 ones were being done 2 weeks after I visited.

dicobalt · 20th Jun 2009, 18:56

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Originally Posted by Bindibadgi

PC Power and Cooling Silencer?

Guess who makes it...

No it was not a silencer it was a Turbo Cool.

20th Jun 2009, 09:58	#1
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NethLyn Supermodder Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: London Posts: 370	Best feature I've read on the site since joining up, and good timing with the PSU labs in Issue 71. I've got two Seasonic PCs rebranded by A***c and to cut a short story shorter, you wire them up, switch them on, they just work day in day out, have sailed through their first year without cutouts or other power-related incidents, have survived surges and the smaller of the two, draws just 100W from the wall with a non-performance graphics card- for just 2D work in a Socket A machine, I don't want to use any more. __________________ Check out the Preys-World podcasts on iTunes; Click here

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lewchenko Supermodder Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 322	My last 3, if not 4 PSU's have been Seasonic. I had no idea where they came from , nor cared. However, that got me thinking after reading this article.... are there any PSU's (that are decent) still made in the UK ?

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