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Sifter3000 · 1st Jul 2009, 11:49

http://www.bit-tech.net/blog/2009/07...l-beat-google/

oasked · 1st Jul 2009, 11:56

The one problem with your assumption is that a very large number of people at work are still stuck using IE6 - and therefore there is no default search engine (well at least in the way that we've become used to).

That means that they're probably going to use Google, because that's what everyone else does.

smc8788 · 1st Jul 2009, 12:03

So?

IE's default search engine before this was Live Search or some other Microsoft variant, so if we follow your logic then that should have beaten Google by now.

I don't see how this will be any different. I know many people that aren't computer literate at all (well, at least not enough to change from IE), but they still use Google as their default search engine as second nature, just because it has become such a big household name now. Regular Internet users are using Google shopping, Google maps, Google mail, Youtube and a whole host of Google-related services, so it's no surprise that Google search has become their natural search engine.

RTT · 1st Jul 2009, 12:23

The other flaw in your logic is that a lot of numpties don't use the search bar. My parent's can't wrap their silly old brains around the concept of a search bar. They just type in google.com and search from there.

steveo_mcg · 1st Jul 2009, 12:23

Though if Google did find IE defaulting to Bing to be a severe loss of revenue you can bet there would be an almighty law suite in the US and more anti competitive complaints to the EU.

And people where wondering what the problem with IE's bundling was...

capnPedro · 1st Jul 2009, 12:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by RTT

The other flaw in your logic is that a lot of numpties don't use the search bar. My parent's can't wrap their silly old brains around the concept of a search bar. They just type in google.com and search from there.

My mum can't even grasp that; she types fully, correct URLs into the Google search box on her homepage (which is Google).

Tim S · 1st Jul 2009, 12:30

I can't see Microsoft getting search so right that people flock in their millions away from Google.

UncertainGod · 1st Jul 2009, 12:30

Wow, that was a mighty dose of flawed logic right there.

Sifter3000 · 1st Jul 2009, 12:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by UncertainGod

Wow, that was a mighty dose of flawed logic right there.

I did think that when editing it, but blogs are for personal opinion, so on Clive's head be it!

CardJoe · 1st Jul 2009, 15:37

You also ignore all the computer illiterate people using AOL - both my youngrt sisters and my mum just use the AOL browser, which comes with some silly god-awful search system. When it doesn't work for them they go straight to Google.

Why? Well, because they are mainly using the internet for shopping or for finding things or for email - and Google puts Google Maps, Google Shopping and Google Mail all very plainly and easily in front of them without needing to sign up for anything.

Google became the default search engine of the internet the moment the word was nominalised and entered into the dictionary. Even my Dad no longer thinks about it as "searching for something". Instead, he just "googles it"

notatoad · 1st Jul 2009, 17:10

wait, so bings greatest advantage is that it is the default on all IEs? why did they need to rebrand from live search then? and why did they need to rebrand live search from msn?

also, you underestimate the stupid: i know a lot of people who will search for google in bing and then search with google/

thehippoz · 1st Jul 2009, 17:19

what impresses the hell out of me is they are using the people in the botnet to do their bidding.. it's millions of puppets doing free labor everytime they pull up facebook and type in a captcha- they are fixing a book =] http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/09/16...igitize-books/

if they can find more uses for these idiots like hackers have.. you have your free zombie workforce.. imagine how many peeps use their computers for porn- if you could somehow harness the energy of just the right hand.. energy crysis solved

I'm not sure if bing will take off, windows live didn't.. they been advertising on tv.. google's pretty much stomped even yahoo into the ground

Elton · 1st Jul 2009, 21:09

I don't think bing will win, it's still slow when just searching the internet.

yodasarmpit · 1st Jul 2009, 21:18

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Originally Posted by notatoad

also, you underestimate the stupid: i know a lot of people who will search for google in bing and then search with google/

I actually witnessed someone use "Ask Jeeves" to search for google then search for their term.

The_Beast · 1st Jul 2009, 23:43

google is just so easy to use, shopping, stats, stocks, images..... all in one place

bing has no shot

cyrilthefish · 2nd Jul 2009, 00:21

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Originally Posted by yodasarmpit

I actually witnessed someone use "Ask Jeeves" to search for google then search for their term.

On a similar note: i far too often see people put URLs into a search engine box, search for it then click the search link result pointing to the URL they just entered...

And you get treated with blank/confused stares if you try to explain thats what the URL box is for

very frustrating!

dark_avenger · 2nd Jul 2009, 00:24

all hail lord Google!

VipersGratitude · 2nd Jul 2009, 04:40

This isn't a fanboy thing, it's a culture thing.
Google will win out...here's why:
http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1915736

SteveU · 3rd Jul 2009, 10:29

This blog IMHO is utter rubbish, I reckon the vast majority of people in the world have their homepage set to Google and will continue to.

I've taken one look at Bing at hated it immediately.

I'm sorry but search engines is one thing that Microsoft just don't do well!!

SteveU · 3rd Jul 2009, 10:32

Furthermore, 'to Google' is now a verb!!!

Which other search engine can claim that!?!?!?

Plus 'to Bing' just sounds wrong!

[Rant over]

1st Jul 2009, 11:49	#1
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smc8788 This is bit-tech! Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Southampton, UK Posts: 2,257	So? IE's default search engine before this was Live Search or some other Microsoft variant, so if we follow your logic then that should have beaten Google by now. I don't see how this will be any different. I know many people that aren't computer literate at all (well, at least not enough to change from IE), but they still use Google as their default search engine as second nature, just because it has become such a big household name now. Regular Internet users are using Google shopping, Google maps, Google mail, Youtube and a whole host of Google-related services, so it's no surprise that Google search has become their natural search engine.

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notatoad pretty fing wonderful Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: alberta, canada Special:very Posts: 3,180	wait, so bings greatest advantage is that it is the default on all IEs? why did they need to rebrand from live search then? and why did they need to rebrand live search from msn? also, you underestimate the stupid: i know a lot of people who will search for google in bing and then search with google/ __________________ the old: gigabyte P35, e4300@2.8GHz, 4GB DDR3-1333, 8800gts 512, win7 the new: DFI M3H5 Jr, phenom 810, 4GB DDR-1600, OCZ Vertex, debian notatoad.net fdo eff

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VipersGratitude Supermodder Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 295	This isn't a fanboy thing, it's a culture thing. Google will win out...here's why: http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1915736

3rd Jul 2009, 10:29	#19
SteveU Minimodder Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 31	This blog IMHO is utter rubbish, I reckon the vast majority of people in the world have their homepage set to Google and will continue to. I've taken one look at Bing at hated it immediately. I'm sorry but search engines is one thing that Microsoft just don't do well!!

3rd Jul 2009, 10:32	#20
SteveU Minimodder Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 31	Furthermore, 'to Google' is now a verb!!! Which other search engine can claim that!?!?!? Plus 'to Bing' just sounds wrong! [Rant over]