Chrome OS raises directorship questions - bit-tech.net Forums

CardJoe · 9th Jul 2009, 10:02

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/bits/20...rship-issues/1

The annoucement of a PC-based operating system by Google yesterday may lead to Eric Schmidt's departure from Apple's board of directors under competition law.

mjm25 · 9th Jul 2009, 11:48

well he looks pretty terrifying, if nothing else

fodder · 9th Jul 2009, 11:54

Um, I may be missing something here, but aren't both Android and Chrome open source? How does this reduce competition? (over) pay for apple products or dl googles for free.

ImInTheZoneBaby · 9th Jul 2009, 11:57

When I heard of the Chrome OS, I never thought to myself: "Oh now that Google is on the scene, Apple better watch its back."

I don't think they're REALLY that competitive toward eachother. I think most people looked toward Microsoft rather than Apple.

PT88 · 9th Jul 2009, 12:41

thought that said Dictatorship for a moment...

Phil Rhodes · 9th Jul 2009, 13:07

A Chrome OS might have two effects:

- Making linux usable for normal people, and
- Providing a properly-organised and well-directed management structure for turning Linux into what we all hope it can be.

This would be great, but it depends heavily on what Google's intentions are.

decromin · 9th Jul 2009, 13:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImInTheZoneBaby

When I heard of the Chrome OS, I never thought to myself: "Oh now that Google is on the scene, Apple better watch its back."

I don't think they're REALLY that competitive toward eachother. I think most people looked toward Microsoft rather than Apple.

Why? If google is pitching this as an easy way to get the quick start, user friendly, virus free kinda market, why would that not appeal to possible Apple buyers? Or are they truely that shallow that the brand outweighs the benefits to them?

wbdog206 · 9th Jul 2009, 14:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by PT88

thought that said Dictatorship for a moment...

Thats what I thought at first to.

proxymoron · 9th Jul 2009, 15:05

Seeing as Apple don't allow their OS to be installed on anything but Apple hardware, and the Google OS is intended for netbooks, none of which are made or endorsed by Apple, I can't see how this is a conflict of interest - unless one of those things changes.

splashdream · 9th Jul 2009, 16:12

Now that Google has demonstrated and announced that they are moving into the OS market place, even if it is open source, neither individual has a case to keep the directorship in tact. Doing so would put both companies at risk from many perspectives. This alone would be enough in most organizations to call for there resignation due to conflict of interest.

For me the biggest question is: how much of the knowledge gained in his term on the Apple board has been passed along to this new OS's management and development teams? My guess is going to be "more than google wants to admit and more than apple would normally allow".

Sir Digby · 10th Jul 2009, 01:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by PT88

thought that said Dictatorship for a moment...

I managed to read the whole article, then the forum posts up to yours before realizing

time for sleep I think.

War-Rasta · 10th Jul 2009, 15:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by proxymoron

Seeing as Apple don't allow their OS to be installed on anything but Apple hardware, and the Google OS is intended for netbooks, none of which are made or endorsed by Apple, I can't see how this is a conflict of interest - unless one of those things changes.

They still compete. Even if netbooks are not the main threat for Apple it still could persuade an X amount of possible buyers into getting something else. If you're in the market for a new computer, but you don't know much about them, you might be attracted by a Mac due to it's looks, sales pitch or whatever reason; but if along comes a person with a cheaper product that will allow them to do what they need the will go for that.

I know it's not the biggest threat to Apple, but it's still a competitor. Besides, who knows what might become of the Chrome OS in the future. Maybe by 2015 the world will be using it even more than windows...

Cupboard · 10th Jul 2009, 16:14

I think the competition of the Android lineup of phones to the iPhone is far greater than this but I can see that, as people above have said, it could be the thin end of the wedge.

dyzophoria · 10th Jul 2009, 19:21

i still have to see how google will pull this off though i like the idea of competitions on the OS market, honestly ubuntu really had the promise of a better linux based OS for the masses , yet still embracing it still was a little slow, even with the name "Google" now attached to an OS I still has the "to see is to believe" stand at the moment, nevertheless on the MS side, this will also force them to further ramp up development on their end; and honestly too they are pulling such a feat itself on the development of 7 from vista and xp imho. though I like what im seeing... more competition is a plus for advancement in the OS side

B3CK · 11th Jul 2009, 06:03

When a beta comes out,, I'm gonna pull out some broken apples under my work-desk and try to install.
With what has appeared to me as good business sense by apple by charging premium for everything they brand, I'm super surprised to hear of these two guys working both sides of the table between these companies. I can see both companies prospering off of the colloboration between the two, but with apple's mantra of "Its the business of a business to make money", and google's "do no harm", I don't see how this partnership could keep the net neutral, as I would want it to be.
I'm not one to jump ship at the smell of smoke, but this defiantly makes me weary of the chrome os. Defiantly gonna want to get a lay-mans' breakdown of the fine print on the chrome os eula.

jjsyht · 12th Jul 2009, 19:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sir Digby

I managed to read the whole article, then the forum posts up to yours before realizing

time for sleep I think.

x2...

leslie · 12th Jul 2009, 21:04

Considering I-Phone is a modified OSX, this shows it could be ported easily to a netbook in the future if Apple were so inclined.

Apple never comments on upcoming products, and considering how bit netbooks are and their ties to Nvidia and Intel, there is no reason they can't make one and are likely planning one. This would put them in direct competition.

Nicholas · 13th Jul 2009, 13:16

What would be nice is if he put off resigning from either company - -then decided to resign and go to just one and neither company wanted them back lol.

leslie · 13th Jul 2009, 19:30

Rumors are now starting to circulate about a 10in. $500-$600(usd) Mac tablet/netbook.

This would put them in direct fire with Google.
http://apple.slashdot.org/story/09/0...Pad?art_pos=10

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Cupboard I'm not a modder. Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Bury St Edmunds/Durham Uni Posts: 1,848	I think the competition of the Android lineup of phones to the iPhone is far greater than this but I can see that, as people above have said, it could be the thin end of the wedge. __________________ i7 920, 8800GTS 512, 6GB Corsair all in an Intel DX58SO; 3*320GB RAID5; CM Stacker Samsung Q45.

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dyzophoria Multimodder Join Date: May 2004 Location: Home Posts: 162	i still have to see how google will pull this off though i like the idea of competitions on the OS market, honestly ubuntu really had the promise of a better linux based OS for the masses , yet still embracing it still was a little slow, even with the name "Google" now attached to an OS I still has the "to see is to believe" stand at the moment, nevertheless on the MS side, this will also force them to further ramp up development on their end; and honestly too they are pulling such a feat itself on the development of 7 from vista and xp imho. though I like what im seeing... more competition is a plus for advancement in the OS side __________________ [FONT=Lucida Console]picture this..[/FONT] // [FONT=Tahoma][FONT=Fixedsys]picture that..[/FONT][/FONT]

9th Jul 2009, 11:54	#3
fodder Modder Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 59	Um, I may be missing something here, but aren't both Android and Chrome open source? How does this reduce competition? (over) pay for apple products or dl googles for free.

9th Jul 2009, 12:41	#5
PT88 Minimodder Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 23	thought that said Dictatorship for a moment...

9th Jul 2009, 13:07	#6
Phil Rhodes Supermodder Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 582	A Chrome OS might have two effects: - Making linux usable for normal people, and - Providing a properly-organised and well-directed management structure for turning Linux into what we all hope it can be. This would be great, but it depends heavily on what Google's intentions are.

9th Jul 2009, 15:05	#9
proxymoron What's a Dremel? Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 18	Seeing as Apple don't allow their OS to be installed on anything but Apple hardware, and the Google OS is intended for netbooks, none of which are made or endorsed by Apple, I can't see how this is a conflict of interest - unless one of those things changes.

9th Jul 2009, 16:12	#10
splashdream Modder Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Tacoma, WA, USA Posts: 59	Now that Google has demonstrated and announced that they are moving into the OS market place, even if it is open source, neither individual has a case to keep the directorship in tact. Doing so would put both companies at risk from many perspectives. This alone would be enough in most organizations to call for there resignation due to conflict of interest. For me the biggest question is: how much of the knowledge gained in his term on the Apple board has been passed along to this new OS's management and development teams? My guess is going to be "more than google wants to admit and more than apple would normally allow".

11th Jul 2009, 06:03	#15
B3CK Supermodder Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Dallas, Texas Posts: 355	When a beta comes out,, I'm gonna pull out some broken apples under my work-desk and try to install. With what has appeared to me as good business sense by apple by charging premium for everything they brand, I'm super surprised to hear of these two guys working both sides of the table between these companies. I can see both companies prospering off of the colloboration between the two, but with apple's mantra of "Its the business of a business to make money", and google's "do no harm", I don't see how this partnership could keep the net neutral, as I would want it to be. I'm not one to jump ship at the smell of smoke, but this defiantly makes me weary of the chrome os. Defiantly gonna want to get a lay-mans' breakdown of the fine print on the chrome os eula. __________________ "God loves stupid people, that is why he made so many of them." My best friend at M$ Tech support.

12th Jul 2009, 21:04	#17
leslie Old user, new name. Join Date: May 2009 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 69	Considering I-Phone is a modified OSX, this shows it could be ported easily to a netbook in the future if Apple were so inclined. Apple never comments on upcoming products, and considering how bit netbooks are and their ties to Nvidia and Intel, there is no reason they can't make one and are likely planning one. This would put them in direct competition.

13th Jul 2009, 13:16	#18
Nicholas What's a Dremel? Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 15	What would be nice is if he put off resigning from either company - -then decided to resign and go to just one and neither company wanted them back lol.

13th Jul 2009, 19:30	#19
leslie Old user, new name. Join Date: May 2009 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 69	Rumors are now starting to circulate about a 10in. $500-$600(usd) Mac tablet/netbook. This would put them in direct fire with Google. http://apple.slashdot.org/story/09/0...Pad?art_pos=10