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supermonkey · 23rd Oct 2009, 00:17

I'm going to reply to this thread again to voice my concerns regarding this ad. Like Techno-Dann, I've noticed that the ad pops-up every time I come to Bit-Tech, and it's getting somewhat annoying.

After I voiced my concerns above, I made a mental note the next time it came up. The introductory text doesn't make it very clear that this is an ad. In fact, the text gives the impression that this is a Bit-Tech-sponsored survey.

However, what I find even more upsetting is the fact that RTT is the only admin to respond to this thread, but only to state that it is an ad and that he thinks Bing sucks. I'm surprised because the admins here generally are very good about responding to the users' feedback. I guess they're too busy moderating the Demotivational thread.

-monkey

Stuey · 23rd Oct 2009, 02:10

What I don't appreciate is that I went through the survey thinking that it was helping Bit-tech in some way. If it said "advertisement" I would have ignored it.

M7ck · 23rd Oct 2009, 10:46

This ad really is getting annoying now, pops up everytime now. What makes it worse is that it leads you to think it is to help us and bit-tech.

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Originally Posted by Bloody annoying advert

Please help us by taking a short survey. This will help us ensure that our site is relevant to you and your needs. The survey will take about 10 minutes of your time and, in return, you will be entered into a draw to win one of three £50 Amazon gift vouchers

What part of the survey ensures that BT is relevant to my need?

Tim S · 23rd Oct 2009, 12:20

Sorry I didn't reply to this earlier - I've been ludicrously busy recently. I agree that it's annoying and I've expressed my feelings. Other than that, I don't know much about it to be honest - I'm not involved in any ad deals to ensure that the editorial team is independent. However, when I asked when it was ending I was told that it should be very soon (a few days).

RTT · 23rd Oct 2009, 13:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by supermonkey

However, what I find even more upsetting is the fact that RTT is the only admin to respond to this thread, but only to state that it is an ad and that he thinks Bing sucks. I'm surprised because the admins here generally are very good about responding to the users' feedback. I guess they're too busy moderating the Demotivational thread.

I'm not an admin any longer; I'm just a plain old moderator (of which I do very little) - my opinions/replies are my own and should not be considered a 'bit-tech response' or official, or indeed anything along those lines

supermonkey · 23rd Oct 2009, 20:47

Ah, that's good to know. Now that you mention it, I do recall reading something to that effect in the past, but it must have slipped my mind.

Thanks for the information, Tim.

-monkey

RTT · 26th Oct 2009, 19:59

I swear to god this ****ing thing is asking me on each page view if I want to complete the ****ing survey, even if I press no

Stuey · 26th Oct 2009, 20:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by RTT

I swear to god this ****ing thing is asking me on each page view if I want to complete the ****ing survey, even if I press no

Glad to see that the survery ad with Bit-Tech logo and no mention that it's an ad is annoying the mod staff as well.

Maybe your complaint will weigh more than ours.

will. · 26th Oct 2009, 21:10

Yup, now I regret doing this survey. Save a damn cookie, or just remove the stupid thing. Your going to loose more members than whatever cheque Microsoft is giving you is worth...

Or have you already worked those numbers and the money comes out on top?

Cupboard · 26th Oct 2009, 23:35

+1 to the annoyance. Sure I wasn't *forced* to do it, but I saw the prize and thought it was helping BT so went for it and it has really pissed me off. Please, this is as bad as those crappy Intelli-Text (whatever) adverts or a pop up - you have to actively do something to it to be able to read the stuff you came here to read.

Delphium · 27th Oct 2009, 07:48

Personally I got half way though filling this before it got so repetative I just bailed on it, seriously CBA.

Just wish it would stay away, ughhh.

Da_Rude_Baboon · 27th Oct 2009, 11:35

It just appeared when viewing the forum.

robi386 · 27th Oct 2009, 11:37

When I clicked "yes" to take the survey, it asked me to save a .dll file on my PC.

Is this normal? Using Opera, BTW.

Cthippo · 29th Oct 2009, 04:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by robi386

When I clicked "yes" to take the survey, it asked me to save a .dll file on my PC.

Is this normal? Using Opera, BTW.

Same here. There is no way i'm going to let a survey run code on my machine.

On a deeper level, is whatever M$ is paying you guys worth alienating your customer base? Tim, I respect that marketing is separate from editorials, and I appreciate that, but does anybody from marketing read the forums? Does it matter?

Bindibadgi · 29th Oct 2009, 07:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cthippo

Same here. There is no way i'm going to let a survey run code on my machine.

On a deeper level, is whatever M$ is paying you guys worth alienating your customer base? Tim, I respect that marketing is separate from editorials, and I appreciate that, but does anybody from marketing read the forums? Does it matter?

You can probably imagine the amount editorial is shouting at marketing right now, on a daily basis, because it pisses us off too.

CardJoe · 29th Oct 2009, 09:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bindibadgi

You can probably imagine the amount editorial is shouting at marketing right now

LOTS

CardJoe · 29th Oct 2009, 10:59

This survey has now been taken down as the staff has complained so much. Rest assured that if we'd known about it being planned before hand then we would have raised those complaints earlier.

Tim S · 29th Oct 2009, 11:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cthippo

On a deeper level, is whatever M$ is paying you guys worth alienating your customer base? Tim, I respect that marketing is separate from editorials, and I appreciate that, but does anybody from marketing read the forums? Does it matter?

I have asked for this on several occasions because I think it's just as important to have a relationship (of sorts) with the ad team as it is with the ed team - ad quality is just as important as editorial quality, in my opinion - but it's not something I can enforce. In the past, I believe the readers had a good relationship with the ad team via Hiren, who is unfortunately not really involved in the process any more.

It's a shame, because the editorial team (and in particular me/Alex, as Editor/Group Editor) are left to handle any complaints when we're technically not responsible for them - we're not involved in the sales process at all in order to maintain our editorial independence/integrity.

GregTheRotter · 29th Oct 2009, 13:14

I must have told the thing to piss off at least ten times, till eventually I just filled it in, clicking random answers, in the hope that it would stop asking me to fill it in.

will. · 29th Oct 2009, 13:42

At least it's gone. Thanks Tim.

23rd Oct 2009, 00:17	#21
supermonkey Deal with it Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 4,448	I'm going to reply to this thread again to voice my concerns regarding this ad. Like Techno-Dann, I've noticed that the ad pops-up every time I come to Bit-Tech, and it's getting somewhat annoying. After I voiced my concerns above, I made a mental note the next time it came up. The introductory text doesn't make it very clear that this is an ad. In fact, the text gives the impression that this is a Bit-Tech-sponsored survey. However, what I find even more upsetting is the fact that RTT is the only admin to respond to this thread, but only to state that it is an ad and that he thinks Bing sucks. I'm surprised because the admins here generally are very good about responding to the users' feedback. I guess they're too busy moderating the Demotivational thread. -monkey __________________ But of bliss and of glad life there is little to be said, before it ends; as works fair and wonderful, while still they endure for eyes to see, are their own record, and only when they are in peril or broken for ever do they pass into song. -J.R.R. Tolkien, The Silmarillion

23rd Oct 2009, 02:10	#22
Stuey You will be defenestrated! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: NYC & NJ Posts: 2,610	What I don't appreciate is that I went through the survey thinking that it was helping Bit-tech in some way. If it said "advertisement" I would have ignored it. __________________ ToolGuyd - Stuey's Tool Blog

23rd Oct 2009, 12:20	#24
Tim S Padded Up Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: London Posts: 18,641	Sorry I didn't reply to this earlier - I've been ludicrously busy recently. I agree that it's annoying and I've expressed my feelings. Other than that, I don't know much about it to be honest - I'm not involved in any ad deals to ensure that the editorial team is independent. However, when I asked when it was ending I was told that it should be very soon (a few days). __________________ Global Technical Marketing Manager @ ASUS ASUS on Facebook \| Tech in Style \| Republic of Gamers ASUS Tech Support \| Global Tech Support Helplines

23rd Oct 2009, 20:47	#26
supermonkey Deal with it Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 4,448	Ah, that's good to know. Now that you mention it, I do recall reading something to that effect in the past, but it must have slipped my mind. Thanks for the information, Tim. -monkey __________________ But of bliss and of glad life there is little to be said, before it ends; as works fair and wonderful, while still they endure for eyes to see, are their own record, and only when they are in peril or broken for ever do they pass into song. -J.R.R. Tolkien, The Silmarillion

26th Oct 2009, 19:59	#27
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26th Oct 2009, 21:10	#29
will. A motorbike of jealousy! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Yorkshire! Posts: 4,462	Yup, now I regret doing this survey. Save a damn cookie, or just remove the stupid thing. Your going to loose more members than whatever cheque Microsoft is giving you is worth... Or have you already worked those numbers and the money comes out on top? __________________ work \| play \| blog PS3 & 360: willblack Flickr my twitter. Last.FM Check out my Last.FM & iToggle & Nav-o-Matic jQuery plugins.

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Cupboard I'm not a modder. Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Bury St Edmunds/Durham Uni Posts: 2,148	+1 to the annoyance. Sure I wasn't forced to do it, but I saw the prize and thought it was helping BT so went for it and it has really pissed me off. Please, this is as bad as those crappy Intelli-Text (whatever) adverts or a pop up - you have to actively do something to it to be able to read the stuff you came here to read. __________________ i7 920, 5870, 6GB Corsair all in an Intel DX58SO; 60GB Vertex, 1.5TB F2; Fractal Design R2 ThinkPad Edge 13.

27th Oct 2009, 07:48	#31
Delphium Eyefinity enabled Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Online Posts: 1,402	Personally I got half way though filling this before it got so repetative I just bailed on it, seriously CBA. Just wish it would stay away, ughhh. __________________ \| Gigabyte X58A UD3R r2 \| i7 930 @4.2ghz Watercooled \| 12GB Corsair Dominator @1600mhz 8-8-8-24 2T \| AMD 7970 GB \| 128GB Crucial C300 SSD \| 8x 500GB Seagate SATA-II \| Corsair 850W TX PSU \| 3x Dell S2209W 22"wide TFT's (5760x1080res) \| Logitech Z-5400 5.1ch speakers \| All working on Win7 Ultimate x64 \|

27th Oct 2009, 11:35	#32
Da_Rude_Baboon What the? Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Aberdeen Posts: 4,073	It just appeared when viewing the forum.

27th Oct 2009, 11:37	#33
robi386 What's a Dremel? Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 18	When I clicked "yes" to take the survey, it asked me to save a .dll file on my PC. Is this normal? Using Opera, BTW.

29th Oct 2009, 10:59	#37
CardJoe Freelance Journalist bit-tech Staff Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 11,331	This survey has now been taken down as the staff has complained so much. Rest assured that if we'd known about it being planned before hand then we would have raised those complaints earlier. __________________ ... The Unlimited Hyperbole Podcast @joethreepwood on Twitter

29th Oct 2009, 13:14	#39
GregTheRotter I Mod, Therefore I Own Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Athens, Greece Posts: 3,953	I must have told the thing to piss off at least ten times, till eventually I just filled it in, clicking random answers, in the hope that it would stop asking me to fill it in. __________________ Main rig: i7 920, 12gb 1600mhz ram @ 1333mhz, Asus P6T Mobo, Crucial m4 128gb SSD as OS disk, Samsung 1tb F1, 2x1tb F3 as storage, 1xSamsung F4 2tb, Creative X-FI Fatality pro soundcard,2 x EVGA GTX 670 in SLI, Dell U2711, Nec 20WGX2. Photography gear; Nikon D700, Nikon 16-35 F4 VR, Nikon 24-70 AF-S, Nikon 70-200 F2.8 VR II, Nikon 35mm F2 D,Nikon 50mm 1.8D, Nikon 85mm 1.8D, Micro Nikkor 105 f2.8 AI-S, Nikon SB-800, SB-900,

29th Oct 2009, 13:42	#40
will. A motorbike of jealousy! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Yorkshire! Posts: 4,462	At least it's gone. Thanks Tim. __________________ work \| play \| blog PS3 & 360: willblack Flickr my twitter. Last.FM Check out my Last.FM & iToggle & Nav-o-Matic jQuery plugins.