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CardJoe · 9th Nov 2009, 11:29

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/gaming/...-of-own-game/1

RedLynx, the developer of Trials 2, has admitted it uploaded torrents of it's own game to the internet.

mi1ez · 9th Nov 2009, 11:35

"There is in general a feeling that IP and content should be free. That's fine to say, but if you have to pay all the people that actually put their heart and soul into a game - who have to pay a mortgage off and have children - it becomes much more difficult. Yes, you can limit [piracy] with technical tricks, but there needs to be an overall change in the perception of IP and the people who create it."

Completely agree with this

Phil Rhodes · 9th Nov 2009, 11:42

Well, you don't have to have children...

alpaca · 9th Nov 2009, 11:47

solution: castrate all game programmers and let them sleep under their desk so they don't have to pay off a house...

liratheal · 9th Nov 2009, 11:51

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Originally Posted by alpaca

solution: castrate all game programmers and let them sleep under their desk so they don't have to pay off a house...

but how does the dev pay for the staff, the building, the equipment etc etc :B

Sifter3000 · 9th Nov 2009, 11:51

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Originally Posted by alpaca

solution: castrate all game programmers and let them sleep under their desk so they don't have to pay off a house...

Sounds like your work for a HR dept...

9th Nov 2009, 12:10

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Originally Posted by alpaca

solution: castrate all game programmers and let them sleep under their desk so they don't have to pay off a house...

As someone who wants to be a game designer, I'm not sure I'm in favour of this strategy.

feedayeen · 9th Nov 2009, 13:32

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Originally Posted by sear

Quote:

Originally Posted by alpaca

solution: castrate all game programmers and let them sleep under their desk so they don't have to pay off a house...

As someone who wants to be a game designer, I'm not sure I'm in favour of this strategy.

It is just a cost savings program for the programmers. It's not going to save the company any money since that is what they expect you to do already.

Psytek · 9th Nov 2009, 14:51

People who pirate a 59p product were obviously never going to buy it... even if they had a billions pounds. Piracy is not lost sales... yada yada, broken record, nobody will ever listen, who cares, look out for number one, use SSL/SSH and ignore the white men in the black suits, they're idiots, and they'll be dead soon.

Star*Dagger · 9th Nov 2009, 16:38

If your mortgage is more than 10 years you are getting robbed, no different than a mugging in the street, except the mugging would only take what you have on you.

The idea that we play 3 to 5 times the amount of the loan over 30 years is one of the greatest system of social control for the people who are intelligent enough to actually start and succeed in revolutionary action. Every mortgage payment is a loss of your freedom and money to people who do not have your interests in mind.
And that ladies and gentleman is why we should push for real banking reform and any other area that limits our lives.

S*D

Cerberus90 · 9th Nov 2009, 16:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by sear

Quote:

Originally Posted by alpaca

solution: castrate all game programmers and let them sleep under their desk so they don't have to pay off a house...

As someone who wants to be a game designer, I'm not sure I'm in favour of this strategy.

As someone who is curerntly doing a degree in games programming, I'm definitely not in favour of this,

mikeuk2004 · 9th Nov 2009, 17:16

This is an amazing game, I have Trials HD on the xbox 360 and its worth every penny. Think it cost me just a little over £10 and you get your moneys worth.

Pirates should have their eletrical goods taken off them and crushed.

jezmck · 9th Nov 2009, 17:31

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Originally Posted by CardJoe

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/gaming/...-of-own-game/1

RedLynx, the developer of Trials 2, has admitted it uploaded torrents of it's own game to the internet.

FFS Joe, why is it always your grammar fails I see?

SMIFFYDUDE · 9th Nov 2009, 18:16

I was beginning to think I was the only one left who respected IP and thinks that just because file sharing is possible doesn't mean its a human right.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Star*Dagger

If your mortgage is more than 10 years you are getting robbed, no different than a mugging in the street, except the mugging would only take what you have on you.

The idea that we play 3 to 5 times the amount of the loan over 30 years is one of the greatest system of social control for the people who are intelligent enough to actually start and succeed in revolutionary action. Every mortgage payment is a loss of your freedom and money to people who do not have your interests in mind.
And that ladies and gentleman is why we should push for real banking reform and any other area that limits our lives.

S*D

Little wonder why mortgage means death grip.

mrbens · 9th Nov 2009, 22:25

I wish I had pirated this game instead of buying it because I only played it for a day and didn't like it!

giantegg · 10th Nov 2009, 00:50

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Originally Posted by Psytek

People who pirate a 59p product were obviously never going to buy it... even if they had a billions pounds. Piracy is not lost sales... yada yada, broken record, nobody will ever listen, who cares, look out for number one, use SSL/SSH and ignore the white men in the black suits, they're idiots, and they'll be dead soon.

..what are you, high?

I'm not sure what ssl/ssh has to do with anything, and piracy clearly IS lost sales. Not all pirates would buy games if piracy was impossible, but some would. gtfo my bit-tech.

Javerh · 10th Nov 2009, 06:12

Nevermind the piracy but when are they going to release Alien Phobia 4?

leexgx · 10th Nov 2009, 08:23

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Originally Posted by giantegg

I'm not sure what ssl/ssh has to do with anything, and piracy clearly IS lost sales. Not all pirates would buy games if piracy was impossible, but some would. gtfo my bit-tech.

its what is used for loading games without itunes

Landy_Ed · 10th Nov 2009, 11:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Star*Dagger

If your mortgage is more than 10 years you are getting robbed, no different than a mugging in the street, except the mugging would only take what you have on you.

The idea that we play 3 to 5 times the amount of the loan over 30 years is one of the greatest system of social control for the people who are intelligent enough to actually start and succeed in revolutionary action. Every mortgage payment is a loss of your freedom and money to people who do not have your interests in mind.
And that ladies and gentleman is why we should push for real banking reform and any other area that limits our lives.

S*D

Choice exists, unlike a mugging. If you don't buy your home, you're paying someone else's mortgage instead. We all get to see beforehand how much it's going to cost us based on current interest rates. Still no excuse for theft (whether it's software, music or physical product). Nothing is free in this life, it's just a question of who foots the bill. & good on you RedLynx for taking a brave approach, unlike IW who are not even releasing a demo of MW2. I've never heard of the Trials series, but I'll certainly look out for them.

giantegg · 11th Nov 2009, 02:27

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Originally Posted by leexgx

its what is used for loading games without itunes

riiiight. I'm going to assume that means you play it on your iphone or ipods..
2 things,
1. What a horrible gaming medium, games on mobile devices, for now, are gimmicks and only that.
2. Why are iphone/apple gamers reading a PC tech website, and complaining about issues that don't -really- affect them?

9th Nov 2009, 11:29	#1
CardJoe Freelance Journalist bit-tech Staff Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 11,334	Trials dev uploaded torrent of own game http://www.bit-tech.net/news/gaming/...-of-own-game/1 RedLynx, the developer of Trials 2, has admitted it uploaded torrents of it's own game to the internet. __________________ ... The Unlimited Hyperbole Podcast @joethreepwood on Twitter

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mi1ez Hypermodder Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Warwickshire, UK Posts: 920	"There is in general a feeling that IP and content should be free. That's fine to say, but if you have to pay all the people that actually put their heart and soul into a game - who have to pay a mortgage off and have children - it becomes much more difficult. Yes, you can limit [piracy] with technical tricks, but there needs to be an overall change in the perception of IP and the people who create it." Completely agree with this __________________ The Angel Delights?

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Psytek Multimodder Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 158	People who pirate a 59p product were obviously never going to buy it... even if they had a billions pounds. Piracy is not lost sales... yada yada, broken record, nobody will ever listen, who cares, look out for number one, use SSL/SSH and ignore the white men in the black suits, they're idiots, and they'll be dead soon.

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