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Old 27th Jan 2010, 11:18   #1
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Ubisoft introduces new online DRM system

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Ubisoft has announced a new DRM system for future PC titles that require a constant internet connection.

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Old 27th Jan 2010, 11:20   #2
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Old 27th Jan 2010, 11:20   #3
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The good news is that Ubisoft promises the new system doesn't use either StarForce or SecuROM and doesn't require a disc check or apply an install limit on customers.

The bad news is that a constant internet connection is required, users will need to connect to a Ubi.com account before playing and apparently all save games will be uploaded to a Ubisoft cloud.
As far as i can see that's good news all around.

UNTILL UBISOFT GOES OUT OF BUSINESS. Then you can kiss your games goodbye, but they hardly took that into consideration.

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Oh wait, good stuff. But what about the savegames?
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Old 27th Jan 2010, 11:20   #4
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So where do I get the internet emulator beta from cracker group X

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That gave me reason not to buy any Ubisoft games, thanks!
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I lol'd at the image and got pissed off with another DRM system... all at the same time!
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Oh bloody hell. "Most people have constant internet connection". But what about those people that don't.
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Oh bloody hell. "Most people have constant internet connection". But what about those people that don't.
Do you know any gamers without an internet connection? I assume most of Ubi's new games will be multiplayer-heavy anyways, so there would be no point in buying them if you don't have internet. So IMO those people aren't the target audience for Ubi.
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Oh bloody hell. "Most people have constant internet connection". But what about those people that don't.
Indeed. When I changed ISP recently I went 4-5 days without an internet connection. And every now and then, if there is a server fault with an ISP you can have a few hours without a connection. During this time you can't play. That sucks.

Why can't these people use the "steam" model. Connect once, validate, and then allow offline play.

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"At the moment, if you release the PC version, essentially what you're doing is letting people have a free version that they rip off instead of a purchased version. Piracy's basically killing PC,"
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Do you know any gamers without an internet connection? I assume most of Ubi's new games will be multiplayer-heavy anyways, so there would be no point in buying them if you don't have internet. So IMO those people aren't the target audience for Ubi.
Yes, hes sitting on a chair typing out a message to you right now....

I am currently at boarding school, so that means limited internet during the week, limited in this case being all but browsing and MSN impossible, so no connecting to servers to get saved games etc. Thankfully steam offline works for most of my games (and the good old ones that came with a disk )

Now, hopefully when I get to uni it will work, but otherwise

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"At the moment, if you release the PC version, essentially what you're doing is letting people have a free version that they rip off instead of a purchased version. Piracy's basically killing PC,"
..... That is the case with making absolutely anything, you make it. It can be copied. Only way to stop it being copied is to not release it at all
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But yes.

This will be pirated just like any other system. Monitor the traffic, replicate the responses with a local "server", force gamesaves to a directory on the local "server", modify the system that sends the calls to look at localhost. Oops.
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This is just the wrong way to fight a problem that this only fuels. Still no games on Ubisofts list are even remotely interesting to me now I just have to go bitch about GFWL being included with Metro 2033 >
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Oh bloody hell. "Most people have constant internet connection". But what about those people that don't.
Do you know any gamers without an internet connection? I assume most of Ubi's new games will be multiplayer-heavy anyways, so there would be no point in buying them if you don't have internet. So IMO those people aren't the target audience for Ubi.
It's more an issue of you have to have the connection ALL THE TIME. If it drops while you're playing then the game will pause before letting you carry on playing, but Ubi hasn't clarified if you'll be able to upload your save. If you're on WiFi and the signal drops, too bad. If someone else needs to use the internet and you can't share a connection or have a bandwidth problem, too bad. If you're not on an unlimited connection then it'll hog your bandwidth needlessly.
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"Ubisoft has announced a new DRM system"

If only there was a DRM system out there that didn't require a constant internet connection and does exactly the same thing.

*Sigh*
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I honestly think that this may be good, if it helps them to make more profits from PC gamers then they will feel that it will be worth developing games for the PC entirely, and not just make some crappy ports... or ignore the PC gamers completely.


I hope this system that they will be using goes well, and finally, at least I won't have to have my disc in anymore when I wanna play, now I can keep those discs somewhere safe where they won't get scratched.

and I also have to say, I think that if someone doesn't like this idea, then they are obviously pirates or have no internet connection to their primary (Gaming) PC.
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and I also have to say, I think that if someone doesn't like this idea, then they are obviously pirates or have no internet connection to their primary (Gaming) PC.


Read my post a few up -_-

And you haven't needed a disk for ages, its called Steam, and works well, and works offline
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It will have to have more benefits to me than just "Hey look, you can take your save games anywhere" because, really, how useful is that to anyone? Most people have one gaming rig at home. If they have more they can already just move their save games themselves.

Personally, I really like the way that EA and BioWare have done it. Yes, it's annoying that you have to create yet another account and you have to remember another password and all that, but there lots of upsides in their implementation. There is day one DLC for games like Mass Effect and Dragon Age, often free. You can easily grab extra content and it doesn't come with stupid restrictions about always needing to be online, though it is mostly pretty secure. It's the best way that this method can be done and Ubisoft seem to have missed out on that.

If cloud saves are the main benefit then I'll just not bother, tbh. It's not worth the hassle of junkmail, bandwidth troubles and registering.
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