bit-tech.net

Go Back   bit-tech.net Forums > bit-tech.net > Article Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 3rd May 2010, 09:36   #1
Sifter3000
I used to be somebody
Moderator
 
Sifter3000's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: The South Sea Bubble
Posts: 1,766
Sifter3000 has yet to learn the way of the DremelSifter3000 has yet to learn the way of the DremelSifter3000 has yet to learn the way of the DremelSifter3000 has yet to learn the way of the DremelSifter3000 has yet to learn the way of the DremelSifter3000 has yet to learn the way of the DremelSifter3000 has yet to learn the way of the Dremel
NEC announces new phase-change cooler

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardwar...hange-cooler/1

__________________
The Rt Hon Alex Watson.
Dennis Publishing Emerging Platforms, bit and CPC alumni.

My weblog is The Wired Jester.
Photos on Flickr.
Sifter3000 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd May 2010, 09:39   #2
memeroot
aged and experianced
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 1,215
memeroot has yet to learn the way of the Dremelmemeroot has yet to learn the way of the Dremelmemeroot has yet to learn the way of the Dremel
sounds great, sounds far off
memeroot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd May 2010, 09:49   #3
[USRF]Obiwan
I *am* a Dremel
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 1,692
[USRF]Obiwan is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.[USRF]Obiwan is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.[USRF]Obiwan is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.[USRF]Obiwan is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.[USRF]Obiwan is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.[USRF]Obiwan is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.[USRF]Obiwan is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.[USRF]Obiwan is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.[USRF]Obiwan is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.[USRF]Obiwan is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.[USRF]Obiwan is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.
interesting indeed! Shame the included pic is a old nec cooling system...
__________________
Mascleta: "The most accurate simulation of thunder, humans can simulate..."
The answer is 42, so... whats the question again?
If you know what 'Peek' and 'Poke' represents, then you are probably as old as me.
In 1982 I was addicted to Lady Bug and played it in the local arcade (every day) And yes i'm proud I did that!
[USRF]Obiwan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd May 2010, 09:52   #4
Gareth Halfacree
WIIGII!
bit-tech Staff
 
Gareth Halfacree's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Bradford, UK
Posts: 3,911
Gareth Halfacree is a Super Spamming SaiyanGareth Halfacree is a Super Spamming SaiyanGareth Halfacree is a Super Spamming SaiyanGareth Halfacree is a Super Spamming SaiyanGareth Halfacree is a Super Spamming SaiyanGareth Halfacree is a Super Spamming SaiyanGareth Halfacree is a Super Spamming SaiyanGareth Halfacree is a Super Spamming SaiyanGareth Halfacree is a Super Spamming SaiyanGareth Halfacree is a Super Spamming SaiyanGareth Halfacree is a Super Spamming Saiyan
Quote:
Originally Posted by [USRF]Obiwan View Post
interesting indeed! Shame the included pic is a old nec cooling system...
Aye - NEC hasn't released any images of the new system yet.
__________________
Author, Raspberry Pi User Guide Third Edition, 21 Brilliant Projects for the Raspberry Pi and more | gareth.halfacree.co.uk | twitter
bit-tech news correspondent, Custom PC columnist, other things to other people
I'm a filthy freelancer! Hire me!
Gareth Halfacree is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd May 2010, 09:57   #5
rickysio
N900 | HJE900
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 964
rickysio has yet to learn the way of the Dremel
The only thing I can say is

REEEALLY?
rickysio is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd May 2010, 10:00   #6
confusis
Kiwi-modder
 
confusis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
Posts: 2,406
confusis can run Crysisconfusis can run Crysisconfusis can run Crysisconfusis can run Crysisconfusis can run Crysisconfusis can run Crysisconfusis can run Crysisconfusis can run Crysisconfusis can run Crysisconfusis can run Crysis
once again NEC excels. If it's cheap i'm buying two!
confusis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd May 2010, 10:07   #7
Teknokid
Ultramodder
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,060
Teknokid is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.Teknokid is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.Teknokid is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.Teknokid is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.Teknokid is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.Teknokid is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.Teknokid is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.Teknokid is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.Teknokid is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.Teknokid is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.Teknokid is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.
80% less energy than a high end air cooling system? right.. so that would be 80% less energy than a fan? I dont think so some how...
Teknokid is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd May 2010, 10:15   #8
GravitySmacked
Mostly Harmless
 
GravitySmacked's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Aulin Enterprise
Posts: 3,482
GravitySmacked is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.GravitySmacked is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.GravitySmacked is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.GravitySmacked is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.GravitySmacked is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.GravitySmacked is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.GravitySmacked is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.GravitySmacked is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.GravitySmacked is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.GravitySmacked is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.GravitySmacked is the Cheesecake. Relix smiles down upon them.
Impressive claims indeed.
__________________

GravitySmacked is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd May 2010, 10:25   #9
FelixTech
Robot
 
FelixTech's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: London
Posts: 346
FelixTech has yet to learn the way of the DremelFelixTech has yet to learn the way of the Dremel
Quote:
Originally Posted by Teknokid
80% less energy than a high end air cooling system? right.. so that would be 80% less energy than a fan? I dont think so some how...
They might be referring to server racks/hpc systems, which are often like wind tunnels :P
__________________
Use ClickMechanic for car repairs and servicing!
Play Animal Shogi for free on Android!
FelixTech is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd May 2010, 10:51   #10
Star*Dagger
Pan-Galactic Revolutionary
 
Star*Dagger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Earth, Sol System, Alpha Quadrant
Posts: 821
Star*Dagger should be considered for presidentStar*Dagger should be considered for presidentStar*Dagger should be considered for presidentStar*Dagger should be considered for presidentStar*Dagger should be considered for presidentStar*Dagger should be considered for presidentStar*Dagger should be considered for presidentStar*Dagger should be considered for presidentStar*Dagger should be considered for presidentStar*Dagger should be considered for presidentStar*Dagger should be considered for president
Ill take 3! One for the cpu and one each for my gpus!
Star*Dagger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd May 2010, 11:07   #11
Kalcifer
Its fun to do the impossible.
 
Kalcifer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 631
Kalcifer - may the hammer of Bindi be bestowed on youKalcifer - may the hammer of Bindi be bestowed on youKalcifer - may the hammer of Bindi be bestowed on youKalcifer - may the hammer of Bindi be bestowed on youKalcifer - may the hammer of Bindi be bestowed on youKalcifer - may the hammer of Bindi be bestowed on youKalcifer - may the hammer of Bindi be bestowed on youKalcifer - may the hammer of Bindi be bestowed on youKalcifer - may the hammer of Bindi be bestowed on youKalcifer - may the hammer of Bindi be bestowed on youKalcifer - may the hammer of Bindi be bestowed on you
Sign me up, if this lives up to its promises, I will be getting one, maybe even two.

I am very interested in which type of micro-compressor they used, anyone know?
__________________
-CASE- Fractal Design Define R2 Titanium -CPU-QX6850 @ 3.00 GHz -MOBO-Asus P5N32-E SLI -RAM- 4GB Patriot DDR2 RAM -GPU- GeForce 8800 Ultra -STORAGE- Crucial C300 256GB 6Gb/s SSD - 2 x 2TB Samsung Spinpoint F3 -OPTICAL-LG DVDRW - LG Blu-Ray Reader -COOLING- 4x140 + 3x120 Fractal Design Fans - 2x140 + 2x120 DEMCiflex Dust Filters - Noctua NH-U12P SE2 CPU Cooler
Kalcifer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd May 2010, 11:28   #12
Xir
I Mod, Therefore I Own
 
Xir's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Saxony / Germany
Posts: 3,969
Xir is definitely a rep cheat.Xir is definitely a rep cheat.Xir is definitely a rep cheat.Xir is definitely a rep cheat.Xir is definitely a rep cheat.Xir is definitely a rep cheat.Xir is definitely a rep cheat.Xir is definitely a rep cheat.Xir is definitely a rep cheat.Xir is definitely a rep cheat.Xir is definitely a rep cheat.
Hmmm, what else boils at 50 Celsius?
__________________
SN25P
A64 3700+ (San Diego)
2 GB DDR400 OCZ Platinum EL 2-3-2-5 1T
X1800XT 512mb Sapphire
200GB Samsung SP2004C 24" Asus something 1920x1080
Xir is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd May 2010, 11:41   #13
l3v1ck
really joined on Dec 24th 2004.
 
l3v1ck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: The Right Side of the Pennines
Posts: 12,895
l3v1ck has yet to learn the way of the Dremell3v1ck has yet to learn the way of the Dremell3v1ck has yet to learn the way of the Dremell3v1ck has yet to learn the way of the Dremell3v1ck has yet to learn the way of the Dremell3v1ck has yet to learn the way of the Dremel
Will it be like some HSF's that cope well with most chips but struggle with high end hot ones?
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sifter3000
We swung the banhammer in his little stupid spamming face
The old Dennis Forums (CPC, PC Pro, Mac User etc) - Meeting Place lives on. You're welcome to visit it HERE
l3v1ck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd May 2010, 11:44   #14
EdwardTeach
Multimodder
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 171
EdwardTeach has yet to learn the way of the Dremel
sounds like it will take a few years to filter through to the consumer market
EdwardTeach is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd May 2010, 11:48   #15
perplekks45
LIKE AN ANIMAL!
 
perplekks45's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Offenbach, Germany
Posts: 4,665
perplekks45 is a hoopy frood who really knows where their towel is.perplekks45 is a hoopy frood who really knows where their towel is.perplekks45 is a hoopy frood who really knows where their towel is.perplekks45 is a hoopy frood who really knows where their towel is.perplekks45 is a hoopy frood who really knows where their towel is.perplekks45 is a hoopy frood who really knows where their towel is.perplekks45 is a hoopy frood who really knows where their towel is.perplekks45 is a hoopy frood who really knows where their towel is.perplekks45 is a hoopy frood who really knows where their towel is.perplekks45 is a hoopy frood who really knows where their towel is.perplekks45 is a hoopy frood who really knows where their towel is.
If it's cheaper than watercooling I'm in.
__________________
The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far.
ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn
I! I! Cthulhu fhtagn!
perplekks45 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd May 2010, 11:59   #16
eddtox
Homo Interneticus
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Maidstone, Kent
Posts: 1,296
eddtox has yet to learn the way of the Dremeleddtox has yet to learn the way of the Dremel
If it's as good as they say it is they'll make a killing in data centres and similar environments.
__________________
Check out my big clearout sale - Now with added Kindle
eddtox is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd May 2010, 12:01   #17
Combatus
Custom PC/bit-tech modding sections
Moderator
 
Combatus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Watford, UK
Posts: 1,954
Combatus is definitely a rep cheat.Combatus is definitely a rep cheat.Combatus is definitely a rep cheat.Combatus is definitely a rep cheat.Combatus is definitely a rep cheat.Combatus is definitely a rep cheat.Combatus is definitely a rep cheat.Combatus is definitely a rep cheat.Combatus is definitely a rep cheat.Combatus is definitely a rep cheat.Combatus is definitely a rep cheat.
Not sure about the 'impressive' reduced power claims, they seem a bit desperate to me considering your average pump uses about 20W plus a few fans which draw next to nothing - even if they used 70% less power this would still only be a saving of less than 18W. Not exactly earth shattering savings when you consider a GTX 480 uses 300W . If the vapour needs to evaporate at 50 degrees Celsius for the circulation to kick in, that's already pretty warm so it would be interesting to see how close to ambient one of these could get compared to a high end custom watercooling system.
__________________
My Mods Project: SFX | How to photograph your project | Join the Case Mod Index and WIN PRIZES! | Mod of the Month March 2014 is here! Vote now!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mattmc91 View Post
Is the res loud, like, constantly making you need a piss loud?
Combatus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd May 2010, 12:52   #18
Deadpunkdave
...why you need a 20-sided die
 
Deadpunkdave's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: England
Posts: 193
Deadpunkdave has yet to learn the way of the DremelDeadpunkdave has yet to learn the way of the DremelDeadpunkdave has yet to learn the way of the DremelDeadpunkdave has yet to learn the way of the Dremel
Quote:
Originally Posted by Combatus
Not exactly earth shattering savings when you consider a GTX 480 uses 300W .
Again, i think the efficiency angle is for server rooms where a 70% saving could save significant money.
Deadpunkdave is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd May 2010, 12:54   #19
Xir
I Mod, Therefore I Own
 
Xir's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Saxony / Germany
Posts: 3,969
Xir is definitely a rep cheat.Xir is definitely a rep cheat.Xir is definitely a rep cheat.Xir is definitely a rep cheat.Xir is definitely a rep cheat.Xir is definitely a rep cheat.Xir is definitely a rep cheat.Xir is definitely a rep cheat.Xir is definitely a rep cheat.Xir is definitely a rep cheat.Xir is definitely a rep cheat.
Two questions about phase change coolers.

C5H12 Pentan (Boils at) 36C (ignites at) 309C
C6H14 Hexan (Boils at) 69C (ignites at) 240C

First: What fluid is used in the "VaporX" coolers?

secondly, in a normal ATX-case the graphicscart is placed "Upside down".
Wouldn't the gas phase be at the hot point (die), and the fluid phase at the cold cooler side?)
__________________
SN25P
A64 3700+ (San Diego)
2 GB DDR400 OCZ Platinum EL 2-3-2-5 1T
X1800XT 512mb Sapphire
200GB Samsung SP2004C 24" Asus something 1920x1080
Xir is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd May 2010, 13:21   #20
Autti
Multimodder
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 152
Autti has yet to learn the way of the Dremel
NEC discover how fridges work.
Good work.

Bit cynical but how can't you be with such claims.
__________________
Zen and the Art of Modding: an Amateur Foray
2 days since last hospital visit
Autti is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 02:54.
Powered by: vBulletin Version 3
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.