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Old 26th May 2010, 13:48   #1
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Valve claims Steam is five times more stable on Mac

http://www.bit-tech.net/blog/2010/05...-than-windows/

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Old 26th May 2010, 13:57   #2
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as mentioned there are numerous reasons for this

including the strict limitation of hardware that most macs have

besides i havnt had it crash once 5 times more stable than 0 is still 0

lest we forget that the performance is also a lot worse
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Old 26th May 2010, 14:05   #3
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I can buy that quite easily, owing as yakyb says, to far less hardware variation and more strictly vetted drivers in a closed ecosystem.

Absolute numbers also matter though. 5x is a more serious issue if it's e.g. 10% vs 50% than if it's 0.01% vs 0.05%.
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Steam is currently quite stable for me, esp. for Valve games. It's the 3rd party publishers (read IW) that are unstable for me.

Could this be the start of Valve reducing it's PC releases in favour of Macs? It certainly would open them up to become the dominant force in Mac gaming if they did and possibly encourage other developers to look to port/develop for Macs too.
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Old 26th May 2010, 14:12   #5
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Ill put it out in the open, for me Steam on OSX has been less stable than on Windows.

5 crashes in OSX, averaging one every couple of days against Windows which I cant remember the last time it crashed.
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Old 26th May 2010, 14:22   #6
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While steam itself hasn't crashed on my mac, Portal died a coupe times before the patches...

Eaqually though, I've never had much issue on Windows, apart from when steam was new...
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my steam has never crashed on windows 7 64-bit
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Old 26th May 2010, 14:27   #9
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Never had steam crash under windows. All those crashes will be overclockers pushing too hard as well as, as stated in the article, "bargain specials, cobbled together from third-hand hardware and running more on hope and duct tape than..." (PS. where IS the rest of that sentence...)
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steam is still not 100% on mac, if you quit sometimes it has an error report shortly after, it works fine just that error report pops up after you quit now and then.

still it was the only thing i missed about windoze, i dont think i will ever have a windoze machine ever again.

just need them to release tf2 and we are laughing . . . . or at least css
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Never had steam crash under windows. All those crashes will be overclockers pushing too hard as well as, as stated in the article, "bargain specials, cobbled together from third-hand hardware and running more on hope and duct tape than..." (PS. where IS the rest of that sentence...)
Not had a single crash out of my overclocked machine since it was setup.
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Never had steam crash under windows. All those crashes will be overclockers pushing too hard as well as, as stated in the article, "bargain specials, cobbled together from third-hand hardware and running more on hope and duct tape than..." (PS. where IS the rest of that sentence...)
Not had a single crash out of my overclocked machine since it was setup.
You evidently haven't puched too hard then! :P
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4.00GHz on a i7 920 (C0) in a Shuttle system.

Is pushing fairly hard with a GTX 295 in there!
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Never had steam crash under windows. All those crashes will be overclockers pushing too hard as well as, as stated in the article, "bargain specials, cobbled together from third-hand hardware and running more on hope and duct tape than..." (PS. where IS the rest of that sentence...)
never had steam crash on me ever 4.3 i7 965 on water 1100mhz 3x 5870 and currently on my 3 480's no issues at all
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Old 26th May 2010, 15:05   #15
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How much are you betting all the mac fanboys stop reading after the title?
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Playing TF2 on my comp since 2 yrs.... never crashed once...
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Started acting cranky only after the recent update.....
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This comparison at this stage is absolutely unnecessary...
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I don't think i've EVER had steam crash, and its been a long while....
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No, another one who's not had Steam crash, either on Mac (Hackintosh) or PC (Win 7). Also, looking forward to the Mac Hardware Survey - I wonder how many other Hackintosh users are out there (like me), and whether we represent a sizeable minority?
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Old 26th May 2010, 16:32   #19
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Well Steam just crashed on me whilst it was sat doing nothing on my Macbook Pro. It's never crashed on my PC.
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By the looks of the comments, Gabe Newell seems to be reading the wrong report.
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