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Old 2nd Jun 2010, 10:12   #1
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Samsung ships Wave with added malware

German units of Samsung's new Wave handset come with a nasty surprise: free malware.

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardwar...with-malware/1
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first IBM ship free flash devices with a extra gift, worms
now, samsung is doing the same XD, its worm infection mania
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get a f****** firewall

then you wont ever have these problems
god people think anti-virus programs protect you, its like plasters there useless till you cut youself on something

anti-virus programs dont protect you they just get rid of it


the problem is most anti-virus programs are signiture bassed in the fact they only scan for items in there database so any of the millions of viruses created saily could infect your pc without you realising
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get a f****** firewall

then you wont ever have these problems
god people think anti-virus programs protect you, its like plasters there useless till you cut youself on something

anti-virus programs dont protect you they just get rid of it


the problem is most anti-virus programs are signiture bassed in the fact they only scan for items in there database so any of the millions of viruses created saily could infect your pc without you realising
What makes you think Firewalls are bullet proof?

Or in 4 words : Firewalls are F****** PERFECT?
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Old 2nd Jun 2010, 11:51   #7
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get a f****** firewall

then you wont ever have these problems
god people think anti-virus programs protect you, its like plasters there useless till you cut youself on something

anti-virus programs dont protect you they just get rid of it


the problem is most anti-virus programs are signiture bassed in the fact they only scan for items in there database so any of the millions of viruses created saily could infect your pc without you realising
What makes you think Firewalls are bullet proof?

Or in 4 words : Firewalls are F****** PERFECT?
no, im talking from experience

i have got a decent firewall that asks me everytime an unsigned exe tries to run or edit any registry values or any other system critical components itr also lets me trust any programs and remembers the choices i make so yes certain firewalls are bullet proof to an ecstent, by firewall i am refering to a "hips" not a bog standard fireall you get with an antivirus

host-bassed intrusion protection system and it dose work becasue i bought a game the other day that had maleare on the disk and it picked it up right away while my antivirus was silent
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Old 2nd Jun 2010, 12:50   #8
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4 words

get a f****** firewall

then you wont ever have these problems
god people think anti-virus programs protect you, its like plasters there useless till you cut youself on something

anti-virus programs dont protect you they just get rid of it


the problem is most anti-virus programs are signiture bassed in the fact they only scan for items in there database so any of the millions of viruses created saily could infect your pc without you realising
What makes you think Firewalls are bullet proof?

Or in 4 words : Firewalls are F****** PERFECT?
no, im talking from experience

i have got a decent firewall that asks me everytime an unsigned exe tries to run or edit any registry values or any other system critical components itr also lets me trust any programs and remembers the choices i make so yes certain firewalls are bullet proof to an ecstent, by firewall i am refering to a "hips" not a bog standard fireall you get with an antivirus

host-bassed intrusion protection system and it dose work becasue i bought a game the other day that had maleare on the disk and it picked it up right away while my antivirus was silent
Firewalls, by definition, enforce network traffic policies, not registry edits.

And as a word of friendly advice, please turn on the spell checking in your web browser. There's nothing worse than someone trying to preach (naively or otherwise) their specific viewpoint with more spelling mistakes than words. You could be dyslexic, foreign or both, but it's still no excuse not to use the tools that have been provided for years.

Edit: On another note, I really hope this doesn't delay the Galaxy S - really looking forward to getting my hands on one of those.
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And as a word of friendly advice, please turn on the spell checking in your web browser.
There are spell checkers in web browsers?
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get a f****** firewall

then you wont ever have these problems
god people think anti-virus programs protect you, its like plasters there useless till you cut youself on something

anti-virus programs dont protect you they just get rid of it


the problem is most anti-virus programs are signiture bassed in the fact they only scan for items in there database so any of the millions of viruses created saily could infect your pc without you realising
What makes you think Firewalls are bullet proof?

Or in 4 words : Firewalls are F****** PERFECT?
no, im talking from experience

i have got a decent firewall that asks me everytime an unsigned exe tries to run or edit any registry values or any other system critical components itr also lets me trust any programs and remembers the choices i make so yes certain firewalls are bullet proof to an ecstent, by firewall i am refering to a "hips" not a bog standard fireall you get with an antivirus

host-bassed intrusion protection system and it dose work becasue i bought a game the other day that had maleare on the disk and it picked it up right away while my antivirus was silent
Firewalls, by definition, enforce network traffic policies, not registry edits.

And as a word of friendly advice, please turn on the spell checking in your web browser. There's nothing worse than someone trying to preach (naively or otherwise) their specific viewpoint with more spelling mistakes than words. You could be dyslexic, foreign or both, but it's still no excuse not to use the tools that have been provided for years.

Edit: On another note, I really hope this doesn't delay the Galaxy S - really looking forward to getting my hands on one of those.
a hips is a firewall and it alerts you when an exe tries to edit the registry and other items

please do your research before you post and dont be a grammer nazi

(here is link search for hips on page)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intrusi...tem#Host-based

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a hips is a firewall and it alerts you when an exe tries to edit the registry and other items

please do your research before you post and dont be a grammer nazi
Not to get too invovled with this terribly productive argument, but I looked up HIPS as they sounded quite interesting, but it appears they're not just firewalls, but a whole series of interconnecting solutions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Host-ba...tem#Host-based

Shame they sound so resource hungry, it's a good idea otherwise.
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How do I get it to work in FF? I checked the options, and it appears to be turned on, but it isn't actually doing anything...
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Old 2nd Jun 2010, 18:23   #14
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a hips is a firewall and it alerts you when an exe tries to edit the registry and other items

please do your research before you post and dont be a grammer nazi
Not to get too invovled with this terribly productive argument, but I looked up HIPS as they sounded quite interesting, but it appears they're not just firewalls, but a whole series of interconnecting solutions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Host-ba...tem#Host-based

Shame they sound so resource hungry, it's a good idea otherwise.
well they are like an antivirus, some are more resource demanding than others for example
my hips (comodo) hardly takes any resoruce 1-3mb usually

here is screenshot


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a hips is a firewall and it alerts you when an exe tries to edit the registry and other items

please do your research before you post and dont be a grammer nazi

(here is link search for hips on page)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intrusi...tem#Host-based
And because one company calls a duck a goose, you're going to believe that?

Furthermore, IPS/IDS or bog-standard layer 3/4 firewall, the definition still doesn't fit the bill of a local application modifying your local registry. I've done plenty of research.

<pedant>Grammar nazi, I am also not. I'm a spelling nazi when required. And your posts were abusing the amount of brain power required to interpret them.</pendant>

If you weren't too busy being an opinionated oik, you'd have realised that I made a polite suggestion rather than attacking you personally.

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How do I get it to work in FF? I checked the options, and it appears to be turned on, but it isn't actually doing anything...
I'm not sure - perhaps you need to restart FF to get it working? I'm almost 100% sure that it's an Ubuntu default to have it on, as I can't remember having to actually switch it on. Perhaps change the dictionary from en-US to en-GB, but not enable it altogether.

If it wasn't obvious, I should point out that it only works for text input boxes (or other form input fields) like the one I'm using to write this reply 'ere.
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How do I get it to work in FF? I checked the options, and it appears to be turned on, but it isn't actually doing anything...
installed the dictionary addon?
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/browse/type:3
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a hips is a firewall and it alerts you when an exe tries to edit the registry and other items

please do your research before you post and dont be a grammer nazi

(here is link search for hips on page)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intrusi...tem#Host-based
And because one company calls a duck a goose, you're going to believe that?

Furthermore, IPS/IDS or bog-standard layer 3/4 firewall, the definition still doesn't fit the bill of a local application modifying your local registry. I've done plenty of research.

<pedant>Grammar nazi, I am also not. I'm a spelling nazi when required. And your posts were abusing the amount of brain power required to interpret them.</pendant>

If you weren't too busy being an opinionated oik, you'd have realised that I made a polite suggestion rather than attacking you personally.

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How do I get it to work in FF? I checked the options, and it appears to be turned on, but it isn't actually doing anything...
I'm not sure - perhaps you need to restart FF to get it working? I'm almost 100% sure that it's an Ubuntu default to have it on, as I can't remember having to actually switch it on. Perhaps change the dictionary from en-US to en-GB, but not enable it altogether.

If it wasn't obvious, I should point out that it only works for text input boxes (or other form input fields) like the one I'm using to write this reply 'ere.
look into comodo it stops items modifying registry do you want me to upload a pic

forgods sake dont some of you people believe anything
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look into comodo it stops items modifying registry do you want me to upload a pic

forgods sake dont some of you people believe anything
I don't believe marketing over my own learned knowledge, if that's what you're asking?
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I don't believe marketing over my own learned knowledge, if that's what you're asking?
i use the aplication i think i know what im talking about
and quit spekulating what it can or cannot when you havent even used or seen it in action yourself.
at the moment you are just caught up in your own little buble and you will someday have to comeback down to earth

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look into comodo it stops items modifying registry do you want me to upload a pic

forgods sake dont some of you people believe anything
I don't believe marketing over my own learned knowledge, if that's what you're asking?
It does actually come up asking for permission for pretty much everything.

Infact, thats one of the reasons I stopped using it, that and an update a while ago bricked the PC. One of the comodo files started using 100% CPU as soon as the PC started. They did fix this problem, but I'd already uninstalled it and just moved to the Win7 Firewall.
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