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Sifter3000 · 26th Jul 2010, 11:37

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardwar...es-of-ubuntu/1

Phalanx · 26th Jul 2010, 11:40

I think it's the narrow-mindedness of Dell and companies like them in issues such as this that hold back other operating systems from becoming a proper contender (in terms of market share. I know Unbuntu is very good). The fact they believe Linux is only for open-source programming is just pathetic.

flibblesan · 26th Jul 2010, 11:47

If they are still available by phone then why are Dell telling people that they no longer offer Ubuntu systems? Three members of my local Linux user group tried to order computers with Ubuntu from Dell over the phone to be told that, and the only option was a machine without Windows. They paid the same price but got some small hardware upgrades.

crazyceo · 26th Jul 2010, 12:41

Ouch!

Who cares?

saspro · 26th Jul 2010, 12:46

Dell can't support Linux properly, instead of training members of staff it's easier to stop selling it (especially as they don't make a profit on the software)

Tangster · 26th Jul 2010, 12:52

Obviously.=, why would any company want to have to train new staff to deal with queries about linux?

JA12 · 26th Jul 2010, 13:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by saspro

Dell can't support UBUNTU properly

There, fixed that for you. And Dell don't have to provide customer support. Canonical can do that just fine. It's called collaboration.

Speaking of which.. Dell have made deals with MS concerning Windows Phone 7. And just after that the Ubuntu offerings start to disappear. Coincidence?
MS offered Windows Phone 7 to HP as well but HP said no thanks. They have that field covered with Linux-based systems. Personally, I would go to HP.

crazyceo · 26th Jul 2010, 14:04

HP have actually said yes and will be launching Windows Mobile 7 devices in the Autumn. We all know how commercially bad Linux based products have been to the big players. It wasn't for trying as the masses wanted Windows lookalike and couldn't be arsed to learn Linux based OS.

What's the problem here? If you want a linux based OS then just download and install one!

general22 · 26th Jul 2010, 14:31

THE YEAR OF LINUX DESKTOP!

Gareth Halfacree · 26th Jul 2010, 14:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by general22

THE YEAR OF LINUX DESKTOP!

I'll believe it when I see it. And I say that as one who uses Linux on all his laptops, desktops, and netbooks both professionally and personally.

Toploaded · 26th Jul 2010, 15:29

I love Linux, but I'd never expect a company like dell to sink the resources into supporting it. I'm surprised they ever did.

Fabou · 26th Jul 2010, 16:58

That's why ton of people barely using a computer to broswe eb and read mail think they have to pay overpriced windows because it's PC or mac (mac being even more expencive).

Singularity · 26th Jul 2010, 17:07

Well that's a dick move. I don't know if it's pressure from Microsoft, or just Dell's not caring about customers, but this makes me sad. True, most linux users are install it themselves, but I do believe that every notebook should be available without an OS. If we don't want to use windows, we don't want to have to pay for it.

TheUn4seen · 26th Jul 2010, 17:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazyceo

What's the problem here? If you want a linux based OS then just download and install one!

Because I don't want to pay for something I won't use (MS oem license)? At least Dell offers some notebooks without any OS (but not in every country), too bad Sony won't do the same, as Dell's notebooks aren't really worth the time and money lately (overheating and/or throttling CPUs, poor build quality and so on).

leexgx · 26th Jul 2010, 17:26

you can still ring them up and get Ubuntu installed on the system not sure what the issue is

Most users would not buy an linux based system due to issues getting stuff working, even my self tryed it but nothing has changed from 10 years ago when i last used it i can still brake it in less then 1 hr use (norm broken updater that has No self heal so once broken you need to drop to command line and fix it that way that tends to be longer then the a to z)

crazyceo · 26th Jul 2010, 18:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheUn4seen

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazyceo

What's the problem here? If you want a linux based OS then just download and install one!

Because I don't want to pay for something I won't use (MS oem license)? At least Dell offers some notebooks without any OS (but not in every country), too bad Sony won't do the same, as Dell's notebooks aren't really worth the time and money lately (overheating and/or throttling CPUs, poor build quality and so on).

Then don't buy from Dell!

Skutbag · 26th Jul 2010, 19:09

There should be a non-Windows / free OS option - and as a large supplier to the masses, they should set an example. Yes the option is still there, but this is about awareness in the general public.

JA12 · 26th Jul 2010, 19:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazyceo

HP have actually said yes and will be launching Windows Mobile 7 devices in the Autumn. We all know how commercially bad Linux based products have been to the big players.

http://www.gadgetvenue.com/hp-window...ppen-07241043/

Yes, we all know how commercially bad Linux based products have been to the big players. Big players like Google, IBM, Dell, HP, Cisco? No wait...

echeb · 26th Jul 2010, 20:52

i bet this is because of low sales due to NO ADVERTISING WHATSOEVER. did you ever see the word 'ubuntu' on any of the things they put inside papers and magazines? and surprise surprise there is
"no actual advertising to alert people of the fact that such systems are available if they bother to call up and ask"

ps. "There should be a non-Windows / free OS option" there is, if you are in Britain.
http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/l.../x10white.html

scrimple3D · 26th Jul 2010, 21:04

What if they're being given a cash incentive to drop Linux as an operating system option? Is that a possibility?

26th Jul 2010, 11:37	#1
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26th Jul 2010, 11:47	#3
flibblesan Destroyer Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Nottingham Posts: 1,319	If they are still available by phone then why are Dell telling people that they no longer offer Ubuntu systems? Three members of my local Linux user group tried to order computers with Ubuntu from Dell over the phone to be told that, and the only option was a machine without Windows. They paid the same price but got some small hardware upgrades.

26th Jul 2010, 12:41	#4
crazyceo Banned Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Wirral Posts: 563	Ouch! Who cares?

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crazyceo Banned Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Wirral Posts: 563	HP have actually said yes and will be launching Windows Mobile 7 devices in the Autumn. We all know how commercially bad Linux based products have been to the big players. It wasn't for trying as the masses wanted Windows lookalike and couldn't be arsed to learn Linux based OS. What's the problem here? If you want a linux based OS then just download and install one!

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echeb Multimodder Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Devon, England Posts: 77	i bet this is because of low sales due to NO ADVERTISING WHATSOEVER. did you ever see the word 'ubuntu' on any of the things they put inside papers and magazines? and surprise surprise there is "no actual advertising to alert people of the fact that such systems are available if they bother to call up and ask" ps. "There should be a non-Windows / free OS option" there is, if you are in Britain. http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/l.../x10white.html __________________ "I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it" - Voltaire/Evelyn Beatrice Hall. Laptop: Compaq CQ50-110EM Nvidia 8200m, AMD Turion X2, 2 gig ram, 200GB HDD, Windows 7 Desktop: Antec 300, AMD Phenom X2 550 BE, Asus ATI 4350 silent, MSI 770-C45, OCZ StealthXstream 500W, WD Blue 500 GB, 2 GB generic ram.

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scrimple3D Minimodder Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 31	What if they're being given a cash incentive to drop Linux as an operating system option? Is that a possibility?