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Old 7th Oct 2010, 12:30   #1
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AMD denies Oracle buyout rumour

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Old 7th Oct 2010, 12:47   #2
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Bearing in mind what's happened to Sun since they got acquired by Oracle, if AMD do get taken over by them, it'll be nothing but bad news for enthusiasts like us.

In the event that this does happen (remember, Sun thought they were cash-rich enough not to be a takeover target), our best hope is that Oracle are only after the processor part of AMD and that they split off and sell the ATi part...
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Old 7th Oct 2010, 13:06   #3
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But who would buy a graphics-card-only manufacturer? The ATI part of AMD might walking on water at the moment, but how long would that last with APUs or whatever they're called?

Even Nvidia are pinning their future hopes on a CPU-lite, not on reclaiming the graphics card crown. (Fermi notwithstanding).
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Old 7th Oct 2010, 14:30   #4
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they can always buy ARM?

the CEO can say what ever, if the offer is big enough the share owners will just out vote him or the shares will tank.

see what happen to MS and yahoo. they won't sell so MS, so MS went bing alone and now it has higher market share than yahoo (i heard someone unsure though).
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Old 7th Oct 2010, 15:16   #5
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But who would buy a graphics-card-only manufacturer? The ATI part of AMD might walking on water at the moment, but how long would that last with APUs or whatever they're called?

Even Nvidia are pinning their future hopes on a CPU-lite, not on reclaiming the graphics card crown. (Fermi notwithstanding).
Actually the ATI part might be the most interesting thing for a (primarily) database company think of all that parallel processing perfect for huge databases.
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Old 7th Oct 2010, 15:45   #6
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In the event that this does happen (remember, Sun thought they were cash-rich enough not to be a takeover target), our best hope is that Oracle are only after the processor part of AMD and that they split off and sell the ATi part...
That would be just as bad - Intel would simply raise prices of CPUs through the roof.
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It will never happen, AMD have nothing for them to kill off - mysql :-(
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Yeh well I am sure AMD will look at Sun getting squashed by Oracle and try and avoid that happening to AMD all costs... Hmmm Open Solaris anyone? I am just glad projects like Open Office were GPL'd or they would have been killed off/ commercialised... We will still wait to see what will happen to USB-enabled version of VirtualBox of course...
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i'm not really sure why oracle bothered with sun if they already want amd. seriously, its been about a year and they already want a new cpu architecture? does sparc suck that much?

oracle didn't have to buy out sun to work on open source development like solaris and openoffice.

imo, amd seems EXTREMELY confident in their next generation processors. i've never known this much confidence of a success in a product in the computer industry in a long time. amd is getting apple interested, they're trying to get into small mobile devices, they're challenging intel's highest-end stuff, they're turning down big money from oracle, and they're (for some reason) acting like the llano apu is the future of computing. who knows, maybe theres more i don't know about.

amd currently is losing money and they're hurting. i'm sure they're smart enough to realize that if they claim their next products are really as good as what they say they are, then people's expectations are going to be VERY high. that being said, if their products won't become as good as they claim, then they're doomed.

sooooo if amd's next generation cpus are as promising as they're making it out to be, they could probably do better than oracle. therefore, if oracle buys them, they'll just slow down the release of the new stuff.
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That would be just as bad - Intel would simply raise prices of CPUs through the roof.
Then the US feds break up intel, killing most of their RDA and future archs and were stuck with no processors for us .

Lets just hope Microsoft makes Windows ARM compatible so we could see some ARM manufacturer make Enthusiast parts hopefully.
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Based on what's happened to all of the companies that Oracle's taken over, they'll keep the good bits for themselves and just dump the rest - Oracle are an asset stripper, nothing more.

Oracle only have one real competitor in the marketplace (SAP), and in the case that they bought out AMD, they'd have a complete end=to-end software and hardware solution covering every aspect of a company's business. They'd effectively be untouchable.
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But who would buy a graphics-card-only manufacturer? The ATI part of AMD might walking on water at the moment, but how long would that last with APUs or whatever they're called?

Even Nvidia are pinning their future hopes on a CPU-lite, not on reclaiming the graphics card crown. (Fermi notwithstanding).
Actually the ATI part might be the most interesting thing for a (primarily) database company think of all that parallel processing perfect for huge databases.
Of course! if they want to take marketshare from the Teradata / Analyticals market, it makes perfect sense to go down this route
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Oracle bought Hyperion a couple of years back, so data warehousing/analytics is definitely something they're targeting.
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Hyperion is a piece of s**t (or the bits I've seen and used) and OBI is replacing it (I thought)

Teradata is a tiny market (in comparison to oracle) for BI... though I loooove Teradata and use it at home for testing.

"Oracle only have one real competitor in the marketplace (SAP)"
http://www.oracle.com/us/solutions/o...la-171082.html

competitor in on sense on one (small) product - partner overall.

"think of all that parallel processing perfect for huge databases"
datawarehouses are IO constrained.

there were a tonne of specialist DW databases but none has hit market share - managers trust oracle (doh!)
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