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Old 27th Oct 2010, 10:19   #1
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OCZ opens new SSD plant

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/bits/20...ew-ssd-plant/1
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Old 27th Oct 2010, 10:21   #2
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All they need now is a product to compete with the C300!
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Old 27th Oct 2010, 10:47   #3
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Maybe the OCZ IBIS competes with it :0
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Old 27th Oct 2010, 10:56   #4
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At least prices should be even more so on the way down
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Old 27th Oct 2010, 11:26   #5
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Can only be a good thing!
Costs are coming down!
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Old 27th Oct 2010, 11:43   #6
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Old 27th Oct 2010, 11:56   #7
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I will be backing seagates idea on the hybrid combined drive to be honest unless SSDs improve there ability to hold large amounts of data.
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Old 27th Oct 2010, 12:10   #8
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Prices down!! I want a 500Gb SSD for 200$ :P
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So when is Bindi getting the factory tour?
Beat me to it.
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That's right Seagate, keep telling yourself that SSDs aren't worth bothering with while your competitors sell 140,000 units a month. And that's before they are 1 = 1GB.
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Old 27th Oct 2010, 12:58   #12
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YES! Prices will go down, finally! Should we start buying up OCZ stock?
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Woohoo!

My dream of having entirely SSD storage in three to four years' time for my next rig comes closer to reality.
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Old 27th Oct 2010, 15:54   #16
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Still not enough. SSDs are - unfortunately - a premium product, most of them is not compatible with RAID setups (and not talking here about 2 disks in RAID0 running on software/chipset configuration). Problems with TRIM, GC, lifespan under heavy load and various controllers (JMicron comes to mind). Price is still biggest stumbling block. For a one/two small SSDs it is not tragic, but even minimum storage around 1TB SSD cost absolute fortune. And if you want for example to run 16x2TB disks in RAID6/60, then SSD route is a complete no go.

IBIS is interesting if you intend to run one such drive. If you want to RAID few of them you can't because IBIS architecture is already 'RAIDed' internally.

Both routes (SSD/hybrid-HDD) are total dead ends. HDRs are probably way forward, but this technology is still some time into the future. h-HDDs just like hybrid cars are just ridiculous waste of money and materials. SSDs is of course very nice, but it won't survive too long. Certainly not as main storage solution. Prices won't drop too much for very simple reason. Every new generation of NAND Flash while faster is more and more expensive. So with every new generation of SSDs we will witness exactly the same crazy circle, as with previous SSDs.
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Old 27th Oct 2010, 17:09   #17
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Don't forget most people only need a small SSD (64-128GB) for the OS and most used apps. It's a waste to fill them with games and videos/music etc.

I only have 2 games installed on mine and that's only because they have exceptionally long loading times. Most games only take a few seconds loading anyway off a normal drive to not need to fill my SSD. I'm still only using half the space on my 128GB SSD since buying it back in December.

For most things the only benefit of an SSD is its silent compared to the wurring of a normal drive which unless you watercool you won't hear that over fans and GPU cooler anyway.
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YAY cheaper SSD's for all!
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Sf-1200 ones seem to have very good GC in them

I find anything less then 128gb is to small (recommend 256gb or 2x segate xt drives as they work very well in raid for the price and do not need to worry about trim)
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Definitely looking forward to lower prices. I looked at SSDs last year before building this rig, but couldn't justify the price. The Raptors were expensive enough but still way cheaper than the equivalent storage size of the SSDs. I'm speculating that in about 3 years they'll reach the right size and price point. Hopefully sooner, but I'm a bit pessimistic (or realistic) by nature.
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