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ccxo · 7th Mar 2012, 20:44

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Originally Posted by nchhabs

I think unfortunately that you've misunderstood. I'm not saying DICE should alter the game as it currently exists. I'm saying the community should be given the tools to alter the competitive elements of the game just as Valve provided the CS/CSS community with a variety of tools which ended up with the creation of CS promod for CSS for example.

Tbh I'm very surprised this notion of modding tools/community content creation (of which one example is a competitive mod) is being resisted by casuals so much. Guess it's why DICE could get away with it in the first place.

Now don't get me wrong, I love the game (see: http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/user/dracaXL/ for the retarded number of hours I've put into it) and I mostly play normal large gamemodes. However, as you said, in BF3 there's no major support from EA and DICE at the moment, and that's frustrating.

The last game that the community got to mod and edit was BF2, Dice have said no to releasing any mod tools for BF3.
Ive played alot of competive BF3, the problem with the game is that while Dice etc say they listen to the community, their not that worried and couldnt really care less.
Take contined promises for spectator mode etc and nothing delivered, constant requests and pressure from the compltive teams for this and nothing from Dice.
Alot of BF3's problems come from the fact that towards the end of production the focus switched to the console version away from pc to get the game out the door, this has left so many holes etc in a game that really should have been 100% balanced and polished.

With no spectator/battlerecorder/better admin tools the game wont go foward as a competitive title, you need casters and viewiers to make a successfull competitive game.

Competive BF3 has about 6 months left in it, before the money dries up and game dies like BC2 did and just become a public game as theirs no EA/DICE support.

Achilleas.k · 7th Mar 2012, 20:51

Modding is unfortunately kinda dead when it comes to the big budget games these days. From my experience, this was sort of related to the whole (lack of) dedicated servers story of Modern Warfare 2. Everyone was scared shitless that the future of PC multiplayer games would be peer-to-peer. When we saw that dedicated servers weren't going anywhere, I think we stopped asking for the other stuff we were used to, namely SDKs and server mods. I'm still surprised EA managed to get away with licensed-only servers, but there's obviously a piracy issue going on there as well.

Bottom line is, you can't sell new maps, vehicles and game modes for money when modders can make them for free.

EDIT: Wing kills in Operation Jackass are PRICELESS!

The_Beast · 7th Mar 2012, 21:12

Modding isn't dead (look as Skyrim), companies are killing it to release sub-par DLC that you have to pay money for in order to play.

Achilleas.k · 7th Mar 2012, 21:45

Maybe I should have specified that modding is dead when it comes to multiplayer games. It's definitely going downhill in general though. Skyrim is the exception of what used to be the rule.

faugusztin · 7th Mar 2012, 21:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by nchhabs

Sending a tank shell into a heli is a beautiful thing.

Getting jets is even more satisfying.

adidan · 8th Mar 2012, 07:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by faugusztin

Getting jets is even more satisfying.

Lol true, although I've not done that quite so often.

In a heli you have time to say 'what the....'
In a jet it's more like 'wha....'

Dwarfer · 8th Mar 2012, 07:56

Anyone seen one of the 3 new add-ons we're getting. Close Quarters! EA/Dice pandering for the COD fans again. This isn't what Battlefield is about, it should be and has being about massive open war on unscaled Battlefields (hence the name

)

Not saying I won't play this map-pack but it's certainly not the direction they should be taking! This will only bring more of the same crowd who don't want to work as a team and are only there for their e-penis! Like those who play Metro day in and out.

Orca · 8th Mar 2012, 08:14

Regarding the Close Quarters DLC pack (via Reddit)...

I lol'd

wuyanxu · 8th Mar 2012, 08:39

Armoured Kill is where it's at

Close Quarter will be as boring as Metro/CoD.

can't wait a BF3 reimagination of Heavy Metal, or Harvest Day. in fact, i'd say forget about infantry combat completely.

i come to play BF3 isn't to shoot people in the face, it's to blow people up, using a tank shell, in the face.

replaying Mirror's Edge now, what a brilliant game. so guess won't be back to BF3 until Armoured Kill DLC is released. will skip over the CoD DLC. here's hope to CPC server never runs Close Quarter DLC.

adidan · 8th Mar 2012, 08:40

Is it just a coincidence? I was having trouble with connections, no problem at all yesterday, after switching back to wifi.

Today, first round fine, no problems. Second round, same server, 15 or 16-0 in the AA in MVP1 / 2 position with about 500 tickets left each side and all of a sudden I lose connection to the server.

That's happened so many times now it's frakin me off.

[ZiiP] NaloaC · 8th Mar 2012, 10:06

Close Quarter supports 2-16 players.... Whoop.

Reckon I'll be skipping that expansion completely.

Achilleas.k · 8th Mar 2012, 11:27

Final DLC pack:

[ZiiP] NaloaC · 8th Mar 2012, 11:44

Source for "2-16 players"...

http://www.battlefield.com/battlefie...close-quarters

Jake123456 · 8th Mar 2012, 12:49

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5GsPaycjy0

Looks pretty decent if I say so myself..

longweight · 8th Mar 2012, 12:58

All sounds good to me!

ccxo · 8th Mar 2012, 14:16

Looking at the map that shown in the video just looks at though they have used the maps from the singe player and co-op, with a few changes and some more destruction.

Yet its going to take another 4 months till we see it, go aggresive style of dlc that was promised.

yassarikhan786 · 8th Mar 2012, 14:37

Can't wait for the new large vehicle map

Da_Rude_Baboon · 8th Mar 2012, 15:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Achilleas.k

Final DLC pack:

I would love that!

nchhabs · 8th Mar 2012, 15:19

That leaked footage features a map that kinda looks like fy_poolday heh. Depending on what gamemode they go for on those maps it could be interesting - squad rush might work well, but even TDM would be kinda lame with all the ridiculous spawns. It'd be too easy to camp spawn points on a very small map like that.

MrDomRocks · 8th Mar 2012, 16:15

Daniel Mattros said earlier today that the patch will come before DLC.

Can't wait for things to be shifted around. Hope they change the spawns for Conquest too. it's still too easy to camp flag spawns and or lay traps for people.

7th Mar 2012, 20:51	#7642
Achilleas.k Supermodder Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Cyprus Posts: 316	Modding is unfortunately kinda dead when it comes to the big budget games these days. From my experience, this was sort of related to the whole (lack of) dedicated servers story of Modern Warfare 2. Everyone was scared shitless that the future of PC multiplayer games would be peer-to-peer. When we saw that dedicated servers weren't going anywhere, I think we stopped asking for the other stuff we were used to, namely SDKs and server mods. I'm still surprised EA managed to get away with licensed-only servers, but there's obviously a piracy issue going on there as well. Bottom line is, you can't sell new maps, vehicles and game modes for money when modders can make them for free. EDIT: Wing kills in Operation Jackass are PRICELESS! Last edited by Achilleas.k; 7th Mar 2012 at 21:11.

7th Mar 2012, 21:12	#7643
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8th Mar 2012, 08:14	#7648
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8th Mar 2012, 08:39	#7649
wuyanxu still wants Homeworld 3 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Luton Posts: 9,831	Armoured Kill is where it's at Close Quarter will be as boring as Metro/CoD. can't wait a BF3 reimagination of Heavy Metal, or Harvest Day. in fact, i'd say forget about infantry combat completely. i come to play BF3 isn't to shoot people in the face, it's to blow people up, using a tank shell, in the face. replaying Mirror's Edge now, what a brilliant game. so guess won't be back to BF3 until Armoured Kill DLC is released. will skip over the CoD DLC. here's hope to CPC server never runs Close Quarter DLC. __________________ i7 2700k \ 16GB \ gtx580 \ D2X \ z68x-UD5 \ m4 128GB +2TB \ Ax850 \ FT02-RW \ G15+G5+G51 \ U2711 27" 5D mkII \ 24-105 L \ 17-40 L \ 85/1.8 \ 35/2 \ 70-300 Di \ 270ExII \ 430ExII \ 3LT Adrian \ Hadley Pro -- Photostreamr

8th Mar 2012, 08:40	#7650
adidan CPC_refugee Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Outside your house. Posts: 10,090	Is it just a coincidence? I was having trouble with connections, no problem at all yesterday, after switching back to wifi. Today, first round fine, no problems. Second round, same server, 15 or 16-0 in the AA in MVP1 / 2 position with about 500 tickets left each side and all of a sudden I lose connection to the server. That's happened so many times now it's frakin me off. __________________ Don't do today what you can put off until tomorrow Battlefield 3 adidan_uk BF3 Stats i7 3770 3.4GHz // Asus P8Z77-M // Scythe Big Shuriken // Gainward 570 Phantom // 8Gb G.Skill Ripjaws 1600MHz // 250Gb Samsung 840 // 650W Be Quiet Dark Power Pro // Lian Li V351b Apache Filled // Samsung T220 22" // W7 64

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7th Mar 2012, 21:45	#7644
Achilleas.k Supermodder Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Cyprus Posts: 316	Maybe I should have specified that modding is dead when it comes to multiplayer games. It's definitely going downhill in general though. Skyrim is the exception of what used to be the rule.

8th Mar 2012, 07:56	#7647
Dwarfer Banned Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,039	Anyone seen one of the 3 new add-ons we're getting. Close Quarters! EA/Dice pandering for the COD fans again. This isn't what Battlefield is about, it should be and has being about massive open war on unscaled Battlefields (hence the name ) Not saying I won't play this map-pack but it's certainly not the direction they should be taking! This will only bring more of the same crowd who don't want to work as a team and are only there for their e-penis! Like those who play Metro day in and out.

8th Mar 2012, 10:06	#7651
[ZiiP] NaloaC I Mod, Therefore I Own Join Date: May 2008 Location: Ireland Posts: 3,488	Close Quarter supports 2-16 players.... Whoop. Reckon I'll be skipping that expansion completely. __________________ ZiiP Gamestore [ZiiP] Gaming Community - IW BlackMailers and loonies abound! Sui Generis: i7 920, Corsair H50, 6GB Dominator C7 1600, EVGA x58 SLI LE, Corsair F3 120GB SSD, Samsung F3, Sapphire 5870 Vapor-X, Corsair HX850W, Corsair Obsidian 800D, Iiyama 26" Prolite, Logitech G15, Logitech G5, Sennheiser PC350.

8th Mar 2012, 11:27	#7652
Achilleas.k Supermodder Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Cyprus Posts: 316	Final DLC pack:

8th Mar 2012, 11:44	#7653
[ZiiP] NaloaC I Mod, Therefore I Own Join Date: May 2008 Location: Ireland Posts: 3,488	Source for "2-16 players"... http://www.battlefield.com/battlefie...close-quarters __________________ ZiiP Gamestore [ZiiP] Gaming Community - IW BlackMailers and loonies abound! Sui Generis: i7 920, Corsair H50, 6GB Dominator C7 1600, EVGA x58 SLI LE, Corsair F3 120GB SSD, Samsung F3, Sapphire 5870 Vapor-X, Corsair HX850W, Corsair Obsidian 800D, Iiyama 26" Prolite, Logitech G15, Logitech G5, Sennheiser PC350.

8th Mar 2012, 12:58	#7655
longweight GIFted Join Date: May 2011 Location: London Posts: 9,274	All sounds good to me!

8th Mar 2012, 14:16	#7656
ccxo On top of a hill Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,287	Looking at the map that shown in the video just looks at though they have used the maps from the singe player and co-op, with a few changes and some more destruction. Yet its going to take another 4 months till we see it, go aggresive style of dlc that was promised.

8th Mar 2012, 14:37	#7657
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8th Mar 2012, 15:19	#7659
nchhabs www.twitch.tv/dracaXL Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 841	That leaked footage features a map that kinda looks like fy_poolday heh. Depending on what gamemode they go for on those maps it could be interesting - squad rush might work well, but even TDM would be kinda lame with all the ridiculous spawns. It'd be too easy to camp spawn points on a very small map like that. __________________ *** Core i7 2600k w. Noctua NH-D14 :: Gigabyte P67A-UD4-B3 :: 8GB XMS3 RAM @ 1600 mhz :: 2x GTX 580 (SLI) :: Cooler Master Cosmos II :: Silverstone Strider 1000W :: Dell U2711 :: Musical Fidelity M1-DAC[A] :: KRK VXT 6 :: KRK 10S :: B&W P5 :: ELAC Floorstanders :: CEC CD 3800 :: CEC 3800 Amplifier

8th Mar 2012, 16:15	#7660
MrDomRocks Co-Mumble Ruler!! Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: West Midlands, United Kingdom Posts: 3,932	Daniel Mattros said earlier today that the patch will come before DLC. Can't wait for things to be shifted around. Hope they change the spawns for Conquest too. it's still too easy to camp flag spawns and or lay traps for people. __________________ Battlefield 4 Community Server?