Other General Battlefield 3 discussion thread

[MrDomRocks]

I will be online shortly, just some tweaking to do with my ghetto fan fitting on my HS. Just some more cable ties to fit

[Parge]

And I'm baaaack boys!

Well, was today, got an interview at work on Thursday this week so probably won't be on til Thursday now!

BF3 rocks!

[MrDomRocks]

Originally Posted by Parge

And I'm baaaack boys!

Well, was today, got an interview at work on Thursday this week so probably won't be on til Thursday now!

BF3 rocks!

Welcome back Parge!!

Good luck with the interview!!

[nchhabs]

Originally Posted by 3lusive

^Yeah, and just to add to what you've said.

The sound in BF is poor in comparison to Cod. It definitely is. You would certainly know this if you played FPS games using a headset and were used to soundwhoring, because you can't do it anywhere near as effectively in BF as you can in Cod.

In titles like MW and MW2, you can hear footsteps, gun reloads, enemy movements, even grenade pins being released - it's truly amazing from the perspective of sound (wearing a decent headset of course). Once you've experienced that, you can never go back to games which have poorer sound and don't allow you to have an advantage over the enemy like you can in those two Cod titles.

BF has mundane, boring sound which is drowned out by constant background noises. The guns also don't sound anywhere near as good.

Thoughts? I lol'd.

(taken from the "cynical history of CODPLOPS" comment thread)

[MrDomRocks]

What is this guy on? Foot steps in Battlefield 3 are there. Sometimes you don't notice them but that's because sometimes foot steps can't be heard due to background sound and gunfire. I have been playing with a decent set of 2.1 speakers. And whilst they arent high end they are pretty good. And playing quite loud I hear all kinds of sound and movement. I can hear the pin of nade when it's pulled and thrown.

And not to mention the predefined voices. i.e "laying the c4" etc etc

400+ hours and I can't say the audio was ever a reason to not play the game. The reason to not play BLOPS2 or COD is simple. It's got no skill, it's generic in gameplay, and who wants to drop a kill streak and blast every player to win. Just because you camped or cheated?

[Achilleas.k]

BF3 is the probably the best sounding game I've ever played. The only reason you can hear gun reloads in COD is because there's no tanks firing at you while the guy behind you is reloading. The sound blew me away in BFBC2 and it only got better in BF3.

I've played both COD and BF on a semi-decent surround system and very decent headset. The big difference is that COD is ... quieter.

[smc8788]

Originally Posted by nchhabs

Thoughts? I lol'd.

(taken from the "cynical history of CODPLOPS" comment thread)

I also lol'd. Sounds like someone is far too reliant on sound whoring footsteps to be aware of where the enemy is instead of having basic battlefield awareness to prevent getting flanked. Since the last patch it's actually a lot easier to hear footsteps, but only really when you're in the same building or just outside, which is fine TBH (unlike in COD where you can hear someone scratching their arse from halfway across the map). And to those who say the sound is completely useless in competitive scenarios:



Personally I think the sound design in BF3 is some of the best I've ever experienced in an FPS. It may not have the clinical, sterile design of some competitive FPSes but I find it so much more immersive. There's something about an RPG flying narrowly over your head or a jet coming in for a strafing run that you just cannot get from COD and its endless, anemic sound of grenade launchers flying across the map.

[Achilleas.k]

Not pretending to be pro or anything, we all know roughly my skill level, but aren't the tips in that video kinda ... basic? Do people really need a video to tell them that if someone screams "grenaaaaade" in the enemy team's language it means there's a grenade next to him? Or that the defib beeps whenever you take it out? Do people not notice these things while playing?

I can understand the need for some of the other videos about burst firing and gauging your distance to the target to figure out how short each burst needs to be, and I can understand the reason for videos about how attachments affect weapons (considering most effects aren't apparent without heavy experimentation), but this is REALLY basic stuff. Isn't it?

[faugusztin]

Those are invaluable tips for former COD players .

[smc8788]

Originally Posted by Achilleas.k

Not pretending to be pro or anything, we all know roughly my skill level, but aren't the tips in that video kinda ... basic? Do people really need a video to tell them that if someone screams "grenaaaaade" in the enemy team's language it means there's a grenade next to him? Or that the defib beeps whenever you take it out? Do people not notice these things while playing?

I can understand the need for some of the other videos about burst firing and gauging your distance to the target to figure out how short each burst needs to be, and I can understand the reason for videos about how attachments affect weapons (considering most effects aren't apparent without heavy experimentation), but this is REALLY basic stuff. Isn't it?

There's a difference between being a good player and being a smart player, so they may not be as obvious to everyone, particularly newbies (hence the video title). Besides, as a general rule of thumb I'd say it's a good idea to never underestimate the Youtube audience's stupidity

[MrDomRocks]

Originally Posted by Achilleas.k

Not pretending to be pro or anything, we all know roughly my skill level, but aren't the tips in that video kinda ... basic? Do people really need a video to tell them that if someone screams "grenaaaaade" in the enemy team's language it means there's a grenade next to him? Or that the defib beeps whenever you take it out? Do people not notice these things while playing?

I can understand the need for some of the other videos about burst firing and gauging your distance to the target to figure out how short each burst needs to be, and I can understand the reason for videos about how attachments affect weapons (considering most effects aren't apparent without heavy experimentation), but this is REALLY basic stuff. Isn't it?

Originally Posted by smc8788

There's a difference between being a good player and being a smart player, so they may not be as obvious to everyone, particularly newbies (hence the video title). Besides, as a general rule of thumb I'd say it's a good idea to never underestimate the Youtube audience's stupidity

Most of what they said I already knew. Didn't realise that the pro gamers called that one location J/JStairs and J Window you can jump into from up top xD

It shows noobs the audio queues that most don't realise are taking place. Not forgetting, C4 being placed/Blown/Ammo/Health being dropped and reloads being yelled.

I listen for those. And when you become complacant you can miss so much going on around you. Listening out for C4 being dropped is a good thing. As you can hear it if your in a tank xD

[Elton]

Listen carefully. I usually do if only to set up a quick trap. Knowing where an enemy is is invaluable. The only problem is that I hate the queues because my position is given away.

[MrDomRocks]

Originally Posted by Elton

Listen carefully. I usually do if only to set up a quick trap. Knowing where an enemy is is invaluable. The only problem is that I hate the queues because my position is given away.

That they do but I have ran into many of your traps in the past.

I do love setting traps for people though.

This one being my favourite. It was an accident though.

[Digi]

Classic footage! Some good games last night, knifed TellTale at least 5 times... *cough*

[MrDomRocks]

Originally Posted by Digi

Classic footage! Some good games last night, knifed TellTale at least 5 times... *cough*

Heh take it your at work or just going. I have yet to sleep. Insomnia has come back BAD!

[Telltale Boy]

Originally Posted by Digi

Classic footage! Some good games last night, knifed TellTale at least 5 times... *cough*

When are you imagining this happened? Before or after I dominated you multiple times with my jet/tank/heli?

You're getting delusional in your old age Digi.

[MrDomRocks]

Originally Posted by Telltale Boy

When are you imagining this happened? Before or after I dominated you multiple times with my jet/tank/heli?

You're getting delusional in your old age Digi.

I do believe thats fighting talk!!

[Elton]

I might be up for a game or two in the morning. Maybe.

[Digi]

Originally Posted by Telltale Boy

When are you imagining this happened? Before or after I dominated you multiple times with my jet/tank/heli?

You're getting delusional in your old age Digi.

Well it happened when I bailed out of that jet, landed on your jet, wrenched open the cockpit and shouted 'yippee-kai-eh ************!' - or thereabouts..

My MP7 showed up your M416 though, that's for sure! And I'm going in to a heavy training regime with jets for that 'old age' comment!

You androgynous *******!

Originally Posted by MrDomRocks

Heh take it your at work or just going. I have yet to sleep. Insomnia has come back BAD!

At work yes. Shame to hear about the insomnia, usually a sign of increased stress mate, need to get out there and get yourself a job asap so you can function again.

[MrDomRocks]

<p><i><font color="#0A64A4">"[url=http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?p=3048536]Originally Posted by Telltale Boy<br/>When are you imagining this happened? Before or after I dominated you multiple times with my jet/tank/heli?<br/><br/>You're getting delusional in your old age Digi. "</font></i></p><br/><br/>Well it happened when I bailed out of that jet, landed on your jet, wrenched open the cockpit and shouted 'yippee-kai-eh ************!' - or thereabouts.. <br/><br/>My MP7 showed up your M416 though, that's for sure! And I'm going in to a heavy training regime with jets for that 'old age' comment!<br/><br/>You androgynous *******! <br/><br/><p><i><font color="#0A64A4">"[url=http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?p=3048521]Originally Posted by MrDomRocks<br/>Heh take it your at work or just going. I have yet to sleep. Insomnia has come back BAD!"</font></i></p><br/><br/>At work yes. Shame to hear about the insomnia, usually a sign of increased stress mate, need to get out there and get yourself a job asap so you can function again.

Pretty much yeah dude. No stress just couldn't sleep. Oh well ARecpn Medal and Support/Assault Service stars in one round!